That-Satsu-Guy

A.They haven't convened yet. They will on the 29th. B. Yaku Mitsurus are not part of the Kyokai. They are part of an investigation committee made up of Oyakata and external people. When I said 12 Kyokai men, I meant the rijikai. C. What had to be done was done, so why cry foul? And you bet your pants they will demand a more "appropriate" punishment for the Oyakata. It seems Yaku was in on that meeting and he's playing a big role... http://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20080830-00000036-spn-spo Oh, and they're focusing on education and not on halting recruitment.

Hindsight is always 20-20. I'd definitely say if they were confronted with choosing between this 80 kg lanky kid from Mongolia and a High School/College/Amateur yokozuna, the answer is easy. They will pick a Kotomitsuki 10 out of 10. No questions asked. I agree 100%. I think when they picked Kotooshu and Aran, they were already big guys who were proven in amateur sumo. I don't really know about young undersized foreigners. On one hand they're young enough to teach everything and they have less bad habits from careers in other sports, and on the other hand they're a huge risk compared to Japanese kids. Kotomitsuki is a give me to anybody, but I think Asashoryu's high school sumo showed he had a bright future too. So, I guess they might pass on 80kg Hakuho if he came knocking today, but they would still take Asashoryu and possibly regret it later. BTW Higginbotham, if I offended you or lowered your confidence in your English, I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention.

I never made fun of anyone's English. I just pointed out what I meant in my post and that my car has nothing to do with understanding geography. You started this grammar game, Kintamayama. Now you're just lying. Not nice either. "Well, I got on a car, but they're hard to drive from the outside..." and then "But OK, I'm standing on my car.... now what?" (post 34 in this thread). Totally making fun of the poster's English. I answered after that, asking you to refrain form making fun of English mistakes (post 35 in this thread). 35 is one after 34. I guess your math skills just about fall in line with your English skills. And you are a fibber as well. Tsk tsk tsk. Strong words... You're calling me a liar, but you're wrong. I never had the intent to humiliate him. For the record I was talking solely about the implicit "meaning" of his sentence, not any "grammar" errors. He quoted me and I responded to his post. You on the other hand, are trying to give me a hard time. But it's OK, I think you're funny. Anyway, I'm going to the bank now. Have fun and play nice.

I never made fun of anyone's English. I just pointed out what I meant in my post and that my car has nothing to do with understanding geography. You started this grammar game, Kintamayama.

Mine? Or did you actually mean you're? Are you sure you speak English? Ah, I'm not speaking English, I'm typing it. Thanks for playing. Keep it coming. I can feel the love. erm yeah, right ;-) Hey, it's my new "friend" Mark Buckton! How are you, Buddy?

Mine? Or did you actually mean you're? Are you sure you speak English? Ah, I'm not speaking English, I'm typing it. Thanks for playing. Keep it coming. I can feel the love.

I take that as an apology and a promise to behave better in the future. You're welcome. Anytime.

Tsk tsk, not nice to make fun of someone's English. Bad form and frowned upon in this forum. This is an international forum, and I'm betting English is not higginbotham's first language. But it is yours, right? Shall we run through a few of your random errors on this thread? Yes, let's. Should be run, sir. What what? Grammar, Kelsey.. "if they would rather" No hostility, it's just that I refrain from posting unless I have something to add. When I see something odd, I chime in. Thanks for sharing. Having people hang on to my every word makes me feel loved and appreciated. I especially like how you remember little phrases that I write and repeat them. It's almost as if your trying to be more like me. Just be yourself, that's good enough.

Well, I got on a car, but they're hard to drive from the outside... Anyway, I never said they were from the same area, I was just checking with Asashosakari. Estonia was annexed by the soviets in 1944 and Bulgaria was under the soviet sphere of influence. Considering the broad brush foreigners are painted with, I don't think the Japanese worry about geography that much. But OK, I'm standing on my car.... now what?

A.They haven't convened yet. They will on the 29th. B. Yaku Mitsurus are not part of the Kyokai. They are part of an investigation committee made up of Oyakata and external people. When I said 12 Kyokai men, I meant the rijikai. C. What had to be done was done, so why cry foul? And you bet your pants they will demand a more "appropriate" punishment for the Oyakata. My point is that outcry=action. If the press hadn't ran wild with the Asashoryu soccer scandal the punishment wouldn't have been so severe. The Kyokai sure dragged their feet about the Tokitsukaze incident until the press and public demanded action. And yes, the Kyokai has learned and this time taken swift action to calm the unwashed masses. And who is "everyone"? The Kyokai? The fans? The forum members here? Who the heck is "everyone"? Certainly not you and me. The Kyokai, oyakata, anideshi, etc. I think they want them to actually "understand" when they are told the rules and customs. Not just nod and grunt. Just an old Adam and the Ants title I couldn't resist slipping in... Sorry.

Are you saying that Wakanoho is/was better than Kotooshu/Baruto or just better than Roho, Kokkai, Tochinoshin, Aran and Hakurozan? And do we really know enough about about Tochinoshin and Aran to say that with confidence? I think Kotooshu's (11 basho) and Baruto's (12 basho) progress into the makuuchi was faster than Wakanoho's (16 basho). I might have some numbers wrong, but I don't think so... Maybe you're talking about potential, what potential? Were you hoping that maybe he'd someday jump clear over his opponents to the other side? Last basho he wasn't very convincing when he was doing "straight" sumo. Without an oyakata present to give him proper training, he most likely would have just wasted away. So, to the question "Will Wakanoho's actions stop recruitment?" the answer is "What recruitment?" there's no more room. Does anyone think they're gonna pass a "no more white boy" rule? Seriously? Anyway, since it seems the well is dry, we'll never know.

What's with all the hostility? The reason my posts seem so contrarian is that I refrain from posting unless I have something to add. When I see something odd, I chime in. If you look at recent headlines Wakanoho has dropped completely off the radar. It seems to me this is more about Magaki oyakata than Wakanonho. They only keep mentioning that he's Russian because most Japanese have never heard of him and need some kind of identifier beyond his shikona to distinguish him from the mass of constantly fluctuating sekitori. I know it's only a poll, but you could have a poll about life on Neptune it wouldn't amount to much without some kind of a basis in reality. As for accuracy of polls, there was a poll on Wakanoho's future progress. That didn't pan out so well, did it? But that at least was based on reasonable evidence. I disagree. There are no Yaku Mitsuru-s and such crying foul. That means a lot. And if you ask any oyakata today would they rather recruit a Hakuho or a Kotomitsuki, they'll pick a Hakuho every time. Everyone seems to be focusing on improving the education of foreigners, not on scraping the valuable resource that they are. There is a long history of successful and popular foreign wresters. There's Takamiyama, Konishiki, Musashimaru and that yogurt salesman par excellence Kotooshu. One leap frogging kid who nobody had any hopes for (sorry, no Japanese folks had any hopes for) gets caught smoking pot and the finger pointing goes to the heya for not disciplining, Asashoryu for his bad example, and to a much smaller degree to the other Russians for not watching out for the new kid. I don't see this having a real impact on recruitment, if you do, then beat my guest.

Looks like That Silly Guy has slipped thru the wormhole separating humanity with the dark side, reliable sumo info and opinions from gossip worshipping and name calling on That So Grand scale over at the sumo site for kindergarteners? Of course, if still here bleeding like a girl in our slice of the WWW, the question must be asked - what kind of bloggers did you ask? Sumo (related) bloggers? Those based in Inakabikoville with little more to focus on than the daikon harvest? If sumo related - and they don't know Wakanho - (Blinking...) If daikon diggers - and they don't know Wakanoho - what's the big deal? Were you to come here and ask about issues going on in your ALT slot, last week's ID checking tiff at the kabakura you 'heard' about, or the utter stench on the Joban and Chiyoda Lines when they come in from Chiba each morn, (*) do you think anyone here would know - or care. Tata now. * an odd survey 10 years back finding the Joban and Chiyoda Lines running in from Chiba to be the strongest smelling in the nation!!! S&S - Squid and Sake it was nicknamed. Is that all you got Bucky? I asked where's your proof first! Where's your links? Who are these reputable folks screaming for Russian blood? When you tell me that I'll be more than happy to provide the links to the blogs I read. OK?

Sigh... Not to pull an imitation of you-know-who's "Where's your proof?" line, but on what evidence are you basing your belief in sumo's sudden Russophobia? When I saw the breaking news on the TV, I rushed to find out more from Japanese sources and most Japanese bloggers' reactions were "Wakano-Who?" Do the actions of this newcomer really reflect on well established household named foreign rikishi?

For a guy playing the bass guitar, he appears to be hyper-lingual. Are you suggesting that I was suggesting that Kintamayama is hypo-lingual? Well,　I wasn't.

Kintamayama, you might be semi-lingual. Consider taking a test on your knowledge of the Torah in English, Japanese and Hebrew, in which language do you think you would score the best? What about a test on American history? Or on sushi and sashimi? I eat a lot of fish in Japan that I don't know the English names for and I don't really need to know because other English speakers have never heard of them and wouldn't understand. Now, imagine children who receive their primary and secondary education in one language, will they be as successful taking their post-secondary education in a second language that they are familiar with but only in a casual context? We were talking about children's education originally if I'm not mistaken...

That should be "junior high school graduation." Chiyotaikai never graduated from high school. He's a dyed in the wool ヤンキー. That's why I love him. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RQ711FFKQMM

Speaking Irish in Ireland can hardly be compared to say speaking Portuguese in Nagoya. The social support for some "foreign" languages are quite different. In Ireland how are Czech speakers handling learning Irish and English while maintaining their Czech?

What is the consensus on Hoshikaze now? He looks pretty good to me!

I didn't get if you call every person, raised with more than one mother language "semilingual", or you call this some kind of disorder. I know also quite a lot people, raised with 2 or 3 languages, and they don't seem less happy than any normal person. Maybe the cases you know were not due to the languages? Let me start by saying that I strive to be bilingual and in my home we speak more than one language and I'm not gonna get bogged down arguing about things that I know personal experience and from taking graduate courses on bilingualism. In Europe there may be many people who claim to be happy multilinguals, but the cultural and linguistic gulf between Japanese/English is much greater than Spanish/Italian. With Japanese/English the orthography is different and so is the word order SVO-SOV. Time spent studying one language doesn't contribute to the other, so at some point hard choices will be made. Will the young student study harder or choose not to be fully literate in one of his parents languages? Just imagine if you could read only some kanji and you could read English but with some difficulty. When you relax after a hard day's work are you going to put out the effort to read for pleasure? Also, there is a sense of European identity across languages and there is also an East Asian identity across languages but is there a Transpacific culture that can be agreed to by all Transpacific people? If someone receives half of their education in the US and the other half in Japan there is a danger that they won't feel comfortable using either language. Socially they might be considered a foreigner in both countries. I think bilingualism is is wonderful asset to people who strive for it, but for the purpose of forming an identity and for a child's cognitive development a first language should be established. One can and should learn a second language but without a strong primary language life can be harder than well meaning parents plan for.

I hope everyone is aware that there is a limit to the vocabulary of children. Learning two languages somtimes reduces the quality of both. It's called semilingualism. I've meet a lot semilinguals and they're not the happiest people in the world. In my home we usually speak Japanese. But we sometimes watch TV and read books in English for enrichment. We are trying to establish a first language to build second language acquisition on instead of a 50/50 environment where neither is 100%.

Maybe, that should be choux

I'm confused by any kanji, Hiragana ... ;-) What's a shu cream???? Anyway, I hope it helps him to get the rope. A "shu" cream is from the French word "chou" which means cabbage. Because the cream puff looks like a cabbage it's called a chou a la creme. When chou becomes Japanese it's written しゅー which when changed to roman letters becomes shu.

Fay, that's a shu cream. It's not a chestnut cake. Maybe, you got confused by the similarities of くるみ and クリム. I don't know. Love ya, -TSG