madorosumaru Posted May 13, 2007 Posted May 13, 2007 As Joe mentioned in Rikishi Talk, Roho blew his stack yesterday when neither the gyoji nor the shinpan acknowledged his request for a "matta." Roho was deliberate in his shikiri and called for a matta the first time Miyabiyama charged towards him. But when he made a similar effort the second time, the gyoji, Kimura Masanao, allowed the bout to proceed. He flipped his gumbai, indicating a completed tachiai, and called out "Nokotta." Miya-Babe was hesitant for a moment but when he ascertained that the bout was on, he proceeded to force the protesting Roho out of the ring. Roho was pissed to all heck. He made a most perfunctory bow and stormed off the dohyo. All during his walk down the hanamichi, he was mumbling and gesticulating. Even a long shower did not change his mood. He came out steaming all over. "What's wrong with that gyoji? Is his name Kimura Zatoichi?" (Kimura Zatoichi...) he cried out. "Or is he hard of hearing? I clearly asked for 'matta' before I lowered my right hand." He followed that with a suggestion: "If he is deaf, he should quit. I want the Kyokai to caution him." Unfortunately, it probably wouldn't be the gyoji that would be cautioned. All the Kyokai officials supported the referee. In particular, Kokonoe Oyakata, the Chief Shimpan said, "What is he complaining about? If he doesn't like it, come and tell us [instead of making a scene]. He simply asked too late [for matta]." The media called it another case of Ro-hooliganism. He had just received a 3-day suspension for assaulting members of the press. Odake Oyakata has told him that "it is important to control oneself even when one is raging inside." Now, it looks like it's inevitable that he will be disciplined again. Roho pleading for a matta.
aderechelsea Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 this was one of the funniest moments of the day. And i enjoyed Miya's easy win. If he gets another suspension (i doubt it to tell you the truth) then he should aim to set a new record on this particular field ... (Kimura Zatoichi...)
Stephanoshima Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 He should leave Sumo and switch to K-1 or Puroresu. (Kimura Zatoichi...)
madorosumaru Posted May 14, 2007 Author Posted May 14, 2007 Just a warning for Roho The Kyokai Shinpan Dept. cautioned Roho through his oyakata for his regrettable behavior on Shonichi. Odake Oyakata, Roho's shisho, visited to Kyokai office to apologize. He said, "Roho told me he did not mean any disrespect by what he said." Yeah, right! But, Hanaregoma Oyakata, head of the department, didn't want the matter to linger. "What he did was not praise-worthy, but, look, his oyakata came and apologized," he said. "Shouldn't we put an end to this?" Kimura Masanao, the gyoji involved, was also accommodating: "I heard [Roho] admitted he was wrong." "I told Roho that the validity of a tachiai is not determined by the rikishi," concluded Odake Oyakata. "And in the future, he should watch how he behaves towards gyoji, yobidashi and other 'behind the scenes' personnel."
Bishonohana Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Roho really needs to control his temper. I saw how he grabbed the towel out of the poor guy that tried to hand it to him, as he stormed down the hanamichi... I'm surprised that he didn't yank his arm out! How unsportsman like!! Roho really needs to simmer down!
Kintamayama Posted May 14, 2007 Posted May 14, 2007 Oodake Oyakata apologized to Gyoji Kimura Masanao as well. "I'm pretty sure Rohou didn't mean to ridicule anyone, but I explained to him that it takes two to do Sumo", explained the Oyakata. "It's not on my mind anymore. It's a thing of the past", said Rohou.
madorosumaru Posted May 15, 2007 Author Posted May 15, 2007 After getting a warning from the Kyokai, Roho was a shadow of himself on Day 2. He had a clean tachiai but was pushed out by Wakanosato in a jiffy. "That was bad sumo," he commented in the dressing room. The ref of this bout was none other than Kimura Masanao. "What happened yesterday is over with," Roho said simply. Asked by the press whether he regretted what he said, the recalcitrant Roho was silent. He did not show any sign of contrition. The gyoji is taking the high road. "Apparently, he said a lot of things. But I'm letting the shinpan department take care of [the matter]." Meanwhile, Roho's brother, Hakurozan, was involved in a bit of an incident himself. In his juryo bout, he had Yoshikaze at dohyo edge when the opponent attempted a desperation utchari. The gyoji ruled in Hakurozan's favor and was in midst of the victory pronouncement when a monoii was declared. The judges conferred and reversed the ruling. An angry and frustrated Hakurozan was besides himself when he got back to the dressing room, raging about and kicking trash cans. And HE is supposed to be the reasonable brother--the good one.
Kintamayama Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 They have stolen HAKURUZAN"s win yestoday. Did you actually see the slo-motion video replay, or are you talking out of your heart?
aderechelsea Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 They have stolen HAKURUZAN"s win yestoday. Hakurozan messed things all by himself. He got utchari-ed because he was not doing his job correctly. When you lack basic Sumo technique things like that happen. sometimes the shimpan also do mistakes but not this time. He was thrown like a dummy out of the dohyo. He didn't get the win and he didn't deserve the win. end of story the way i see it.
Kintamayama Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) When I was watching that I wondered if Hakurozan would start to thing the shinpan have something against the brothers. It was a very close call and I wouldn't have given it to Yoshikaze. He didn't. He gave it to Hakurozan. It was the shinpan, based on the slo-mo booth person, who did. I trust the shinpan 100% on this. Edited May 15, 2007 by Kintamayama
Shibouyama Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 (edited) And Roho just gave us another wonderful example of bad manners. :-) No class. But, then again, Asashoryu does that kind of stuff and the yokozuna sets the example for everybody else. Edited May 15, 2007 by Shibouyama
Jakusotsu Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 I think the kyokai need to come down harder on all these petulant stares and half bows that seem to be creeping in more and more. Agreed, but has that ever been necessary before? My impression is that the correct code of behaviour used to be kind of natural with the rikishi literally growing up in their heya without the kyokai having to reprimand anybody directly. Seems to be difficult for a gaijin rikishi to pick that up...
Kintamayama Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 What was he glaring at today after the bout? If you're referring to Asa's "look to the right after-torikumi glare" it's been there for a couple of years after every single bout. We have speculated about it widely. If you mean something else, forget I exist.
Shibouyama Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 What was he glaring at today after the bout? If you're referring to Asa's "look to the right after-torikumi glare" it's been there for a couple of years after every single bout. We have speculated about it widely. If you mean something else, forget I exist. No, he gave Kisenosato a glare for some reason.
Kaikitsune Makoto Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 Don't they have some kind of anger management therapies a lot in the land of opportunities in United States of America? When celebrity says bad words he/she can gain some absolution by checking in for "anger management" therapy (or contacting a religious representative) and I suppose it is more common in United States of American otherwise too. Maybe Roho should be ordered to take part in such. He has anger issues and steroids are not good reason as others are on those too and don't be as rohoish as Roho is! Then again Roho is sympathetically scoundrel looking and very mean face with all that roughness but he also has very sympathetic fat allocation and big body. I think Roho is needed in sumo. He adds an angle and it is always fun to see him slouch back to bow after a defeat. It is the ultimate slow motion walk and arrogance of an unknown origin. Also he is strong rikishi with cool migi-yotsu. Go Roho but don't go away!
Asashosakari Posted May 15, 2007 Posted May 15, 2007 Roho has a conniption, and now everybody else wants one, too.
madorosumaru Posted May 15, 2007 Author Posted May 15, 2007 Shisho Saves Roho's Butt . . . Again By now we all know about how Roho gave Robo an extra push after the latter had already stepped out of the dohyo. Figuring there would be another uproar, his oyakata took the proactive steps. He warned the incorrigible rikishi and then went over to Hanaregoma Oyakata to apologize. Lucky for Roho that he has a wise, quick-thinking shisho. "I was thinking of some [discplinary measure]," said the head shinpan. "I was about to summon his shisho. I guess [Otake Oyakata] must have sensed that and came on his own. That extra push was disgraceful." Roho's explanation: "My chin was up and I couldn't see whether he had stepped out. I was wrong [to do it]."
madorosumaru Posted May 15, 2007 Author Posted May 15, 2007 Hanaregoma: "This is the final warning!" Otake Oyakata stood at attention in front of Hanaregoma Oyakata and apologized profusely for his deshi's misbehavior. The shinpan chief then told him to go back and "deal with the matter strictly." Even after Otake left the room, Hanaregoma could not contain his anger. His face flushed, he ranted, "Disgraceful. The opponent had already let up. What if the guy had gotten injured?" Then, he added, "There was the case in Nagoya and the matta on shonichi. If he causes any more trouble, we would have to think of some [consequence]." The leash is getting shorter and shorter for the Russian Ruffian.
sekihiryu Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 personally I would like to see him join Pride and face his Russian comrade Fedor Emelianenko who would proceed to open a can of whoopass on the surly one, I am sure quite a few people would like to see that. Roho? I think I will call him "Roba" 驢馬 from now on. 驢馬=donkey
Ossetian Yokozuna Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 sekihiryu - I hope you will be polite and delete your last post.
Guest Mulan Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 And Roho just gave us another wonderful example of bad manners. ;-) No class. But, then again, Asashoryu does that kind of stuff and the yokozuna sets the example for everybody else. Hey guys, what's wrong with you? So if there are some bad manners shown by any wrestler then it's Asa's fault? Now Asa's look is a bad manner as well? So how about Kisenosato? He also is "throwing bad looks", mumbling something and I heard yelling in dressing rooms? Not everybody is able to hide emotions easily. Besides Asa and Roho are foreigners and they grown up in different cultures. Maybe in Roho's country it's normal to show your frustration, so it's very difficult for him to keep a "stone face" when he is upset. But he is learning while he is living in Japan. He is getting better. B-)
madorosumaru Posted May 16, 2007 Author Posted May 16, 2007 Asashoryu explained his glare to the press after the bout. He said that Kisenosato tugged at him at dohyo edge even though the outcome was decided and he got hot in the head for a moment. Cooled down in the dressing room, Ryu said, "Well, he must have been really focused on the bout [so the action was excusable]. Otherwise, he seems like a pleasant enough fellow." He had more good things to say about Kise as well as the other two young Japanese hopes he had defeated so far this basho--Toyonoshima and Homasho. "To use a sashimi term, those three would be like 'otoro' (highest grade tuna)," said the gourmet yokozuna, who would know about those kind of things.
aderechelsea Posted May 16, 2007 Posted May 16, 2007 sekihiryu - ??? i wouldn't hold my breath .... it sounded like a joke after all, so chill.
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