Fukurou Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) Day 6 Late In addition to West Maegashira 10 CHIYONOKUNI (2-3) (thanks Asashosakari!) and West Maegashira 11 TOCHINOSHIN (3-2) (thanks Yubinhaad!), the NSK website says West Juryo 1 CHIYOOTORI (2-3) has withdrawn too. Edited July 12, 2013 by Fukurou
Asashosakari Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) Unsurprisingly, Tochinoshin is kyujo for Day 6. Torn cruciate ligament and medial collateral ligament of the right knee. :-(Estimated recovery time 2 months. Kasugano-oyakata is already talking about an extended absence that could even send him down to makushita. (Or worse - Chunichi quotes Kasugano on the possibility of surgery being explored with an attendant AWOL time of half a year.) And ditto Chiyonokuni. Left thigh biceps femoris damage and hematoma.15 days. Looks like he got lucky and the pain was worse than the damage. In addition ... the NSK website says West Juryo 1 CHIYOOTORI (2-3) has withdrawn too.Sprained left ankle with anterior talofibular ligament damage. Edited July 12, 2013 by Asashosakari 1
ScreechingOwl Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Unsurprisingly, Tochinoshin is kyujo for Day 6. Torn cruciate ligament and medial collateral ligament of the right knee. :-(Estimated recovery time 2 months. Kasugano-oyakata is already talking about an extended absence that could even send him down to makushita. (Or worse - Chunichi quotes Kasugano on the possibility of surgery being explored with an attendant AWOL time of half a year.)And ditto Chiyonokuni. Left thigh biceps femoris damage and hematoma.15 days. Looks like he got lucky and the pain was worse than the damage.In addition ... the NSK website says West Juryo 1 CHIYOOTORI (2-3) has withdrawn too.Sprained left ankle with anterior talofibular ligament damage. Tochinoshin’s torn cruciate ligament injury is a common one in baseball. There isn’t any real way to rehab a tear like that for an athlete, so it will require surgery. In baseball the common return time for this injury is six months (and since the season is approximately six months that injury means you miss the rest of the season). So even if Tochinoshin has the surgery next week he is likely to miss the rest of 2013.
kuroimori Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Unsurprisingly, Tochinoshin is kyujo for Day 6. Torn cruciate ligament and medial collateral ligament of the right knee. :-(Estimated recovery time 2 months. Kasugano-oyakata is already talking about an extended absence that could even send him down to makushita. (Or worse - Chunichi quotes Kasugano on the possibility of surgery being explored with an attendant AWOL time of half a year.)And ditto Chiyonokuni. Left thigh biceps femoris damage and hematoma.15 days. Looks like he got lucky and the pain was worse than the damage.In addition ... the NSK website says West Juryo 1 CHIYOOTORI (2-3) has withdrawn too.Sprained left ankle with anterior talofibular ligament damage. Tochinoshin’s torn cruciate ligament injury is a common one in baseball. There isn’t any real way to rehab a tear like that for an athlete, so it will require surgery. In baseball the common return time for this injury is six months (and since the season is approximately six months that injury means you miss the rest of the season). So even if Tochinoshin has the surgery next week he is likely to miss the rest of 2013. ...if sumo were baseball that is. My impression is that in Ozumo quite often there is a tendency to fight through pain/injuries/other medical conditions (i.e. Masunoyama), where you see guys that are more than banged up, limping and grimacing trying to make it to the end of the basho instead of taking immediate care of their health and precaution to not aggrevate their injuries. Dunno if this due to "no kosho" or part of the spirit/attitude of fighters/warriors.
Naganoyama Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Unsurprisingly, Tochinoshin is kyujo for Day 6. Torn cruciate ligament and medial collateral ligament of the right knee. :-(Estimated recovery time 2 months. Kasugano-oyakata is already talking about an extended absence that could even send him down to makushita. (Or worse - Chunichi quotes Kasugano on the possibility of surgery being explored with an attendant AWOL time of half a year.) And ditto Chiyonokuni. Left thigh biceps femoris damage and hematoma.15 days. Looks like he got lucky and the pain was worse than the damage. In addition ... the NSK website says West Juryo 1 CHIYOOTORI (2-3) has withdrawn too.Sprained left ankle with anterior talofibular ligament damage. Tochinoshin’s torn cruciate ligament injury is a common one in baseball. There isn’t any real way to rehab a tear like that for an athlete, so it will require surgery. In baseball the common return time for this injury is six months (and since the season is approximately six months that injury means you miss the rest of the season). So even if Tochinoshin has the surgery next week he is likely to miss the rest of 2013. I hope he will have the surgery and that he will have it as soon as possible.
Asashosakari Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 In addition ... the NSK website says West Juryo 1 CHIYOOTORI (2-3) has withdrawn too.Sprained left ankle with anterior talofibular ligament damage.3 to 7 days. 1
aderechelsea Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 i won't matter anyway ... Takekaze without the right elbow against Kakuryu is like a "fusenpai" in the making.
Koorifuu Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 Double torn ligaments on the knee with estimated recovery time of 2 months? That's the most optimistic forecast I've ever heard for such a career-threatening injury at whatever sport it might be. (Except maybe darts. Or snooker.)
Fukurou Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 Double torn ligaments on the knee with estimated recovery time of 2 months? That's the most optimistic forecast I've ever heard for such a career-threatening injury at whatever sport it might be. (Except maybe darts. Or snooker.) That's not a forecast, that's one of the standard default injury statements. Knees are announced as 2 months to recover, pretty much everything else tends to be 2 weeks. </not entirely sarcastic>
Fukurou Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 Day 6 Fusen East Sandanme 6 BUSEIZAN (now 0-3) missed his day 6 match. ESd9 AZUMASATO won by default, picking up his first win in the process.
Fukurou Posted July 12, 2013 Author Posted July 12, 2013 Day 7 3 late withdrawals from the sekitori ranks on day 6, matched by 3 withdrawals from the lower ranks on day 7: East Sandanme BUSEIZAN (0-3, fusen day 6) West Sandanme RYUDEN (1-2) West Sandanme ENSHUNADA (1-2)
Kintamayama Posted July 12, 2013 Posted July 12, 2013 On good news, Ryuden apparently is recovered. Not so much..
Akinomaki Posted July 13, 2013 Posted July 13, 2013 Day 5 East Jonidan 82 MAJIMA will be beginning the tournament. What was the reason for staying away ? I have seen no info before that and just noticed that he will have his 2nd bout only tomorrow.
Asashosakari Posted July 14, 2013 Posted July 14, 2013 (edited) Jd28w Nakashima is almost certainly out...bad backwards collapse in his Day 7 bout that squashed his right leg under him and did rather unfortunate things to his knee and/or ankle. Edited July 14, 2013 by Asashosakari
kuroimori Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Day 9 kyujo: Ms4w HAMAGUCHI (2-2) Surprising to me, but he landed awkwardly on his left ankle in his loss against Chiyomaru on Day 7. Edited July 15, 2013 by kuroimori
kuroimori Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 chiyotoori (J1) is back from tomorow ...and here a *sigh of relieve & like this* button would be nice. Well, let's hope he and his ankle are alright
aderechelsea Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 at least he is having the best possible opponent for his return. Nionoumi never looked genki after that bout against Tenkaiho last basho. His knee was tapped after that and even though he got his KK in the end he still haven't beaten any rikishi that won more than 7 in a basho since then.
Fukurou Posted July 15, 2013 Author Posted July 15, 2013 Day 9 kyujo: Ms4w HAMAGUCHI (2-2) Surprising to me, but he landed awkwardly on his left ankle in his loss against Chiyomaru on Day 7. popping in for a minute to say that, according to the NSK site, he is NOT kyujo on day 9, he missed his match (fusen). He's not on the kyujo list for day 10 either. Check day 11's kyujo list when it comes out after the day 10 matches.
kuroimori Posted July 15, 2013 Posted July 15, 2013 (edited) Day 9 kyujo: Ms4w HAMAGUCHI (2-2) Surprising to me, but he landed awkwardly on his left ankle in his loss against Chiyomaru on Day 7. popping in for a minute to say that, according to the NSK site, he is NOT kyujo on day 9, he missed his match (fusen). He's not on the kyujo list for day 10 either. Check day 11's kyujo list when it comes out after the day 10 matches. Then the announcer got it wrong, I thought I heard the word "kyujo" over the PA system - to my surprise. or I got it wrong early in da mornin' (Yawning...) Edited July 15, 2013 by kuroimori
Koorifuu Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 On good news, Ryuden apparently is recovered. Not so much.. Apparentness can be deceiving...
Asashosakari Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 popping in for a minute to say that, according to the NSK site, he is NOT kyujo on day 9, he missed his match (fusen).Well, he missed his match because he's kyujo... "Kyujo" doesn't mean anything other than "absent" in this context. The question of whether he's withdrawing from the basho altogether is a separate one. On that note, Takekaze is out.
Asashosakari Posted July 16, 2013 Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) On that note, Takekaze is out.Pick your poison: Sports Hochi - right elbow injury aggravated in the Day 9 bout Kyokai Twitter - right ankle ligament damage (And the most surprising fact of the day - this is Takekaze's first absence in over 8 years. I thought he'd missed time much more recently.) Edit: Sports Hochi have deleted their initial report now. So much for their "heya sources". In any case, two-week injury so he's almost certainly not coming back this basho. His 729 consecutive makuuchi appearances were the second-longest active streak behind Kisenosato. Edited July 16, 2013 by Asashosakari
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