Doitsuyama 1,192 Posted March 16, 2006 Wakanosato and Tochinonada, the maegashira rikishi among the day 4 leaders, suffered surprising defeats at the hands of Otsukasa and Yoshikaze. The other three leaders won, so yokozuna Asashoryu, ozeki Chiyotaikai and sekiwake Hakuho are the only undefeated rikishi remaining in makuuchi. Ozeki Tochiazuma stays one win behind with a win against Kokkai, but Kotooshu lost ground as Ama grabbed his leg to beat him. Kaio gave Roho his first win and is 2-3 and not looking good for the kachi-koshi. The juryo leaders Baruto, Homasho and Kyokunankai all won while five pursuers lost, leaving only Tosanoumi and Tamarikido one win behind. Tamarikido has a good basho so far in his return to juryo after an the 1-3-11 in Natsu 2004 and dropping to Sd80w in Hatsu 2005. Toki meanwhile isn't doing well and looks like a hot Intai candidate. -- Doitsuyama Day 5 Juryo J13w Sumanofuji (2-3) oshidashi J12w Senshuyama (3-2) J11w Kakuryu (2-3) utchari J14e Hochiyama (3-2) J13e Kobo (3-2) yoritaoshi J10w Takanotsuru (1-4) J14w Tamarikido (4-1) okuridashi J10e Toki (0-5) J12e Hokutoiwa (3-2) oshitaoshi J8w Satoyama (2-3) J11e Baruto (5-0) yorikiri J8e Kaiho (2-3) J7w Takanowaka (3-2) yorikiri J9w Shimotori (3-2) J9e Harunoyama (2-3) yorikiri J7e Daishodai (0-5) J6w Kyokunankai (5-0) oshitaoshi J3w Mokonami (3-2) J3e Dairaido (2-3) oshidashi J6e Wakatoba (2-3) J5e Homasho (5-0) oshidashi J2w Daimanazuru (3-2) J5w Shunketsu (1-4) tsukiotoshi J2e Katayama (2-3) J1w Tosanoumi (4-1) okuridashi J4w Tochisakae (1-4) J1e Ryuho (2-3) sukuinage J4e Asofuji (2-3) Makuuchi M13w Kasuganishiki (1-4) yorikiri M17e Buyuzan (3-2) M13e Kyokushuzan (3-2) oshidashi M14w Kitazakura (3-2) M16w Yoshikaze (3-2) hikkake M12w Tochinonada (4-1) M12e Hakurozan (3-2) kotenage M16e Ushiomaru (0-5) M11w Takamisakari (3-2) okuridashi M15e Tamakasuga (2-3) M15w Otsukasa (3-2) tsukiotoshi M11e Wakanosato (4-1) M14e Toyozakura (2-3) oshidashi M10w Toyonoshima (1-4) M10e Tochinohana (3-2) yorikiri M8w Asasekiryu (3-2) M6w Tokitenku (3-2) hatakikomi M9e Jumonji (0-5) M9w Takekaze (4-1) hatakikomi M6e Kakizoe (2-3) M8e Kotoshogiku (2-3) yorikiri M5w Tokitsuumi (1-4) M4w Dejima (3-2) kotenage M7e Kisenosato (3-2) M7w Kasugao (3-2) okuridashi M4e Futeno (1-4) M5e Kyokutenho (4-1) yorikiri M2w Hokutoriki (0-5) S1w Kotomitsuki (4-1) kirikaeshi K1w Miyabiyama (1-4) S1e Hakuho (5-0) yorikiri M3w Iwakiyama (1-4) K1e Roho (1-4) oshidashi O2w Kaio (2-3) O2e Chiyotaikai (5-0) hatakikomi M3e Aminishiki (2-3) M2e Ama (3-2) ashitori O1w Kotooshu (3-2) O1e Tochiazuma (4-1) oshidashi M1w Kokkai (1-4) Y1e Asashoryu (5-0) kakenage M1e Tamanoshima (1-4) Day 6 Juryo J12e Hokutoiwa (3-2) J14e Hochiyama (3-2) J11e Baruto (5-0) J12w Senshuyama (3-2) J14w Tamarikido (4-1) J11w Kakuryu (2-3) J9e Harunoyama (2-3) J13e Kobo (3-2) J13w Sumanofuji (2-3) J9w Shimotori (3-2) J8e Kaiho (2-3) J10w Takanotsuru (1-4) J7e Daishodai (0-5) J8w Satoyama (2-3) J10e Toki (0-5) J7w Takanowaka (3-2) J3e Dairaido (2-3) J6w Kyokunankai (5-0) J5w Shunketsu (1-4) J3w Mokonami (3-2) J2e Katayama (2-3) J6e Wakatoba (2-3) J4e Asofuji (2-3) J2w Daimanazuru (3-2) J1e Ryuho (2-3) J4w Tochisakae (1-4) J5e Homasho (5-0) J1w Tosanoumi (4-1) Makuuchi M15e Tamakasuga (2-3) M17e Buyuzan (3-2) M16w Yoshikaze (3-2) M14w Kitazakura (3-2) M13e Kyokushuzan (3-2) M15w Otsukasa (3-2) M16e Ushiomaru (0-5) M13w Kasuganishiki (1-4) M11e Wakanosato (4-1) M14e Toyozakura (2-3) M12e Hakurozan (3-2) M10w Toyonoshima (1-4) M9e Jumonji (0-5) M12w Tochinonada (4-1) M11w Takamisakari (3-2) M9w Takekaze (4-1) M6e Kakizoe (2-3) M8w Asasekiryu (3-2) M10e Tochinohana (3-2) M6w Tokitenku (3-2) M5e Kyokutenho (4-1) M8e Kotoshogiku (2-3) M4e Futeno (1-4) M7e Kisenosato (3-2) M7w Kasugao (3-2) M4w Dejima (3-2) M3e Aminishiki (2-3) M5w Tokitsuumi (1-4) S1e Hakuho (5-0) M2e Ama (3-2) M1e Tamanoshima (1-4) S1w Kotomitsuki (4-1) O1e Tochiazuma (4-1) M3w Iwakiyama (1-4) M1w Kokkai (1-4) O2w Kaio (2-3) O2e Chiyotaikai (5-0) K1w Miyabiyama (1-4) K1e Roho (1-4) O1w Kotooshu (3-2) Y1e Asashoryu (5-0) M2w Hokutoriki (0-5) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,543 Posted March 16, 2006 At this rate, Juryo might be short four sideburns next basho... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 209 Posted March 16, 2006 Wakanosato might well be absent on day 6. That looked quite bad. Maybe right knee got twisted badly or the old muscle pull. Very unfortunate. Hokutoriki is getting worse and worse. Tomorrow the highlight of the basho between Shoryu and Hoku! KaioU will retire during or after Haru basho. There is nothing there now. Stiff, slow and off in ways you wouldn't believe. Kotomitsuki finally got left hand outside grip. Hakuho looks very stable. Tochiazuma looks good too. Tamanoshima should have beaten Shoryu today but that sotogake habit of Tama was Shoryu's luck today. Without that no chance for the throw by Shoryu as Tama had his right hand outside belt and drive going. Tamanoshima often does that sotogake thing at the end of a drive. Today it was a bad mistake enabling that kakenage automatically. Zannen for him. Futeno is deteriorating day by day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Monde_de_fou Posted March 16, 2006 I don't think Tamanoshima was in position to defeat Asa. He produces a pretty good sumo but I don't think Asa made that move as a last attempt not to be defeated. That was risky but he I'm sure he did it by knowing that he could afford to (not like Asakeryu) You can't predict a win in that match, but I agree Tamanoshima made that mistake and for once seem able to battle with Asa, but beat it? That remains to be seen. (he wasn't even on the edge) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 16, 2006 I don't think Tamanoshima was in position to defeat Asa. He produces a pretty good sumo but I don't think Asa made that move as a last attempt not to be defeated. That was risky but he I'm sure he did it by knowing that he could afford to (not like Asakeryu)You can't predict a win in that match, but I agree Tamanoshima made that mistake and for once seem able to battle with Asa, but beat it? That remains to be seen. (he wasn't even on the edge) I can only see the bouts on banzuke.com (thanks to Dale) so I dont have all perspectives, but I too think Asa was never in danger. But also today he didn't offer a helping hand to Tamanoshima, a gesture I always noticed in the last tournaments ... seems to me that he wants to show everybody who is the master of the universe ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petr 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Aminishiki has beaten Asa by similar sotogake during Asa's similar throw attempt some time ago... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shimpu 0 Posted March 16, 2006 Futeno is deteriorating day by day. I am astonished too. I don't know why he is getting unfocused and can't go with good sumo. Maybe he should stop writing his blog or something. He is thinking too much about his strong hidari-yotsu instead of trying to improve himself in general. He can't win all bouts in the same way - he should understand this obvious fact. I like him a lot hence it is very painful for me to watch him losing (Applauding...) He is great package for sumo champion but time goes by. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paolo 0 Posted March 16, 2006 As far as I can see from the movie, Asashoryu has a good left inside grip, changes his right grip twice and then throws Tamanoshima with shitatenage, pushing with his left and pulling a bit with his right. More than a sotogake, Tamanoshima's move seems to be a desperate attempt not be thrown and remain standing somehow leaning on to Asashoryu's left leg. Asashoryu, remembering his sad loss to Aminishiki, instead of trying to shitatenage at all costs, raises his left leg while turning and so .... kakenage. Quick thinking and brilliant reaction ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asysanyama 0 Posted March 16, 2006 ... all costs, raises his left leg while turning and so .... kakenage. Quick thinking and brilliant reaction ! Agree 101% with you paolo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 209 Posted March 16, 2006 As far as I can see from the movie, Asashoryu has a good left inside grip, changes his right grip twice and then throws Tamanoshima with shitatenage, pushing with his left and pulling a bit with his right. More than a sotogake, Tamanoshima's move seems to be a desperate attempt not be thrown and remain standing somehow leaning on to Asashoryu's left leg. Asashoryu, remembering his sad loss to Aminishiki, instead of trying to shitatenage at all costs, raises his left leg while turning and so .... kakenage. Quick thinking and brilliant reaction ! Agree 101% with you paolo I disagree 102% with you both then. Asashoryu's right hand doesn't play a significant role, his left hand grip is ok but Tamanoshima easily blocks the first throw/pivot attempt with a much better position (and Tama's main strength) and then does this sotogake move as an anticipation to Shoryu's shitatenage. This is the mistake. By taking his right off the dohyo, he loses a lot of the leverage of the hip power and stability to simply block Shoryu's shitatenage and squeeze the left hand inside grip with his right while keeping his hips low and exerting the pressure. Asashoryu is brilliant in these reactions but Tamanoshima messed up this bout with that sotogake move which made it easier to Asa to spin him around. I wonder if Tamanoshima makes a comment about "rushing it" in rikishi talk. In any case, good sumo by both and Tamanoshima's sotogake attempt was the decisive factor in his loss today. Shoryu used the opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted March 16, 2006 well ... let me state my view on this too ... the match starts with the usual Asa nodowa, Tamanoshima establishes a migi-yotsu grip and then Asa gets the left inside and the right at Tama's elbow. He goes for the spin to throw him off balance (i doubt he tried a finishing shitatenage from that angle) and get the hidari-yotsu grip. He manages that but loses his firm footing to the dohyo and Tama moves forward. He realises he is in trouble (??) and turns his body to place his legs verticaly between tamanoshima's and perform a nage while raises tama on the air. Tama realises he is losing the bout and while he has one foot on air and the other barely touching the dohyo he goes for that sotogake which was a dead case since Asa was already turning him in mid air. The kakenage just finished the job better ... at least that's how i see it. funny thing though is how differently humans perceive things even though we are not talking about vague concepts or ideas but rather pictures .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 209 Posted March 16, 2006 He manages that but loses his firm footing to the dohyo and Tama moves forward. He realises he is in trouble (??) and turns his body to place his legs verticaly between tamanoshima's and perform a nage while raises tama on the air.Tama realises he is losing the bout and while he has one foot on air and the other barely touching the dohyo he goes for that sotogake which was a dead case since Asa was already turning him in mid air. The kakenage just finished the job better ... at least that's how i see it. funny thing though is how differently humans perceive things even though we are not talking about vague concepts or ideas but rather pictures .... Indeed. I can't see it that way even if I would buy Siddig or Jesi-glasses from the Shoryu-worship market. Oh well, impressions are the pepper of life. Baffled and out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted March 16, 2006 I think you are in a minority on this one, Kaikitsune. To me it looks like Tamanoshima initiates his sotogake attempt after Asashoryu has started *his* throw. Tamanoshima is already airborne by the time he hooks his leg behind Asashoryu's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flying_Monkey 0 Posted March 17, 2006 Hokutoriki just looks happy to cruise through knowing that whatever he gets he isn't in danger of dropping a division... very sad. One rikishi I have noticed imprving a lot after I called him a disgrace to sumo on the first day (Nodding yes...) is Hakurozan. He looked very good yesterday. Kyokoshuzan too (Singing drunk...). Kokkai looks like he should have just taken this tournament off and dealt with his grief elsewhere. His mind isn't on this basho at all. Kaio is finished, but Chiyotaikai certainly isn't - he is looking surprisingly good and hasn't really been troubled yet. Tochiazuma... well, I don't think he has been seriously tested yet, except on one occasion and then he lost. Too early to say how he will fare against the big boys. But Hakuho looks like he is in no danger of being beaten by anyone at present. And anyone who can pick up and lift out the biggest rikishi like that - well, let's just say his strength is no longer an issue. Asa is looking determined again too so the Asa-Hakuho bout will be a cracker. (Eh?) As for juryo, Mokonami is showing some signs of weakness again. i still think he will end up getting promoted though - he makes the same kind of mistakes that Hakuho was making against lesser opponents a year ago. Baruto looks too strong for Juryo. Homasho still calm and collected and heading upwards... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,543 Posted March 17, 2006 (edited) Hokutoriki just looks happy to cruise through knowing that whatever he gets he isn't in danger of dropping a division... very sad. And for kicks, he's going to get double-digits again next basho and earn more bonus money than he would with a steady 7-8, 8-7 pattern. Smart guy. (Singing drunk...) Kokkai looks like he should have just taken this tournament off and dealt with his grief elsewhere. His mind isn't on this basho at all. I'm sure the death of his father isn't helping any, but isn't that pure speculation that it's having such a big effect on his sumo? It's not like he's this normally ultra-focused rikishi who's off-kilter just this basho...he's looked completely lost out there plenty of times before. Edited March 17, 2006 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites