Kashunowaka 269 Posted April 12, 2003 :-D "This is the new member of SumoForum, Kashunowaka from Stockholm Beya. I have been following Sumo since 1996, and with this post I make my hatsu-dohyo in this forum. I will try to do my own brand of posting to this forum so I hope you'll be rooting for me." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted April 12, 2003 Welcome to the forum from another Swede! :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 189 Posted April 12, 2003 Welcome aboard! Please do share your brand of postings with us. New active members are always appreciated here on this rather small but cosy forum for sumo enthusiasts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 269 Posted April 12, 2003 Welcome aboard!Please do share your brand of postings with us. New active members are always appreciated here on this rather small but cosy forum for sumo enthusiasts. Thank you. :-D Of course, there isn't much to post about for the moment, but the next banzuke is only 10 days away... It is going to be a very interesting basho, for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokimori 0 Posted April 12, 2003 Welcome! The swedish sumo community is growing each day... Soon we will rule the world! Moahahaha.... >:-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 39 Posted April 13, 2003 (edited) If you guys were better organized, you could become a serious threat in the Nations' Competitions in Sekitori-Toto and Sekitori-Oracle! A miserly 5 Swedes played Toto in Haru, 15 wins behind the victorious Germans... and a similar fate in Sekitori-Oracle, where really, Sweden would have the punch power to become one of the big teams always competing for the Yusho! :) So, come on, you Swedes! :D Cheers Zenjimoto Edited April 13, 2003 by Zenjimoto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 269 Posted April 13, 2003 (edited) If you guys were better organized, you could become a serious threat in the Nations' Competitions in Sekitori-Toto and Sekitori-Oracle! A miserly 5 Swedes played Toto in Haru, 15 wins behind the victorious Germans... and a similar fate in Sekitori-Oracle, where really, Sweden would have the punch power to become one of the big teams always competing for the Yusho! :) So, come on, you Swedes! :D I did play Sekitori-Oracle in Haru as my first sumo game ever. I was rather unlucky though... :-( especially with Juryo. I must say I was a little intimidated by the variety of games available when I first started thinking about playing some cyber-sumo game. :-( I am much better prepared now though, so in Natsu basho I plan on participating in a lot of Sumo Games. B-) Watch out! :-D Edited April 13, 2003 by Kashunowaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted April 13, 2003 (edited) Swedes coming through doors and windows... :blink: :-( :-( Welcome! Edited April 13, 2003 by Kotoseiya Yuichi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tokimori 0 Posted April 13, 2003 If you guys were better organized, you could become a serious threat in the Nations' Competitions in Sekitori-Toto and Sekitori-Oracle! A miserly 5 Swedes played Toto in Haru, 15 wins behind the victorious Germans... and a similar fate in Sekitori-Oracle, where really, Sweden would have the punch power to become one of the big teams always competing for the Yusho! :) So, come on, you Swedes! :DCheers Zenjimoto I played the oracle for the second time and got a good 8-7 or adjusted 9-6. The first time I got a measle 3-12. So, all you out there who won't play because it went too bad, Go get 'em! If I could do it, you can! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted April 13, 2003 If you guys were better organized, you could become a serious threat in the Nations' Competitions in Sekitori-Toto and Sekitori-Oracle! A miserly 5 Swedes played Toto in Haru, 15 wins behind the victorious Germans... and a similar fate in Sekitori-Oracle, where really, Sweden would have the punch power to become one of the big teams always competing for the Yusho! :) So, come on, you Swedes! :DCheers Zenjimoto Although I decided never to play a sumo game again after Hatsu basho (yes, it was that bad) I WILL continue to be part of the Swedish sumo gaming community as long a I don't get two such basho in a row :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 269 Posted April 13, 2003 I played the oracle for the second time and got a good 8-7 or adjusted 9-6. By the way, how does the "adjusted score" work? I am sure it is explained somewhere on the Sekitori-Oracle website, but I haven't been able to find it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 39 Posted April 13, 2003 I played the oracle for the second time and got a good 8-7 or adjusted 9-6. By the way, how does the "adjusted score" work? I am sure it is explained somewhere on the Sekitori-Oracle website, but I haven't been able to find it. It's pretty simple. Everyone is split into 4 groups, Joijin (Sanyaku and upper Maegashira), Hiramaku (the rest of Makuuchi), Juryo and Makushita. For each these groups, the average is calculated, and win/loss records are assigned, based on having a relatively even number of wins and losses when all added up. It is especially necessary in the Joijin, cause they usually all do overall very well, creating problems when trying to make the banzuke, cause there are very few MK... this way, you have to compete well against those close to you in the banzuke, just like in real Ozumo :) Cheers Zenjimoto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted April 14, 2003 Everyone is split into 4 groups, Joijin (Sanyaku and upper Maegashira), Hiramaku (the rest of Makuuchi), Juryo and Makushita. For each these groups, the average is calculated, and win/loss records are assigned, based on having a relatively even number of wins and losses when all added up. It is especially necessary in the Joijin, cause they usually all do overall very well, creating problems when trying to make the banzuke, cause there are very few MK... this way, you have to compete well against those close to you in the banzuke, just like in real Ozumo This is essentially the same method used for calculating RotoSumo win/loss records. What kind of record you get depends on how far you are above or below the scoring average in your division. It's worked pretty well thus far. BTW, I love the exploding smilie that is now available. This has to be my favorite icon so far. :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 269 Posted April 14, 2003 (edited) Must... not... confuse... Zentoryu with Zenjimoto... Must... not... confuse... Zentoryu with Zenjimoto... Edited April 14, 2003 by Kashunowaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 39 Posted April 14, 2003 Must... not... confuse... Zentoryu with Zenjimoto... Must... not... confuse... Zentoryu with Zenjimoto... I know what you mean! I have the same problem all the time :-( Cheers Zen.... um.... Zenjimoto! :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoavoshimaru 0 Posted April 14, 2003 Welcome to the forum, Kashunowaka-zeki :-( Not being a Swede pr a Finn, I'm feeling in the minority here :-D :-( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 39 Posted April 14, 2003 Don't worry, there are plenty of non-Scandinavians here :) Interesting is that, with the relatively large number of Swedes and at least noticeable number of Finns, there seem to be preciously little Norwegians in the sumo world.... ?? Cheers Zenjimoto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted April 14, 2003 (edited) Don't worry, there are plenty of non-Scandinavians here :)Â Interesting is that, with the relatively large number of Swedes and at least noticeable number of Finns, there seem to be preciously little Norwegians in the sumo world.... ?? Cheers Zenjimoto Of the Nordic countries (Iceland, Sweden, Norway, Finland and Denmark) , it does seem Finland and Sweden definitely are the most active on the international Sumo fan lists/forums etc. But I do know of one Dane who occasionally writes on rec.sport.sumo and one Norwegian who is a (sleeping) member of this forum and occasional sumo gamer (Kitakaze/Kitanohana) . No Icelanders as yet that I can recall though... Somewhat funny though that Sweden , which as far as I know is the only Nordic country (possibly along with Iceland) with simply NO active amateur sumotori, that also seems to have the most active sumo fans... Edited April 14, 2003 by Yubiquitoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 39 Posted April 14, 2003 On an entirely different topic, I would be interested to hear where you Scandinavians see Estland in the mix... I know the Estlanders have been wanting and trying to associate much more with Scandinavia (particularly the Finns), so what is the view from the region on that? (Enjoying a beer...) Cheers Zenjimoto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotoseiya Yuichi 3 Posted April 15, 2003 On an entirely different topic, I would be interested to hear where you Scandinavians see Estland in the mix... I know the Estlanders have been wanting and trying to associate much more with Scandinavia (particularly the Finns), so what is the view from the region on that? (Being unsure...) I'll try to answer even though I'm not Scandinavian. :-) (Repetition once again. Finns aren't Scandinavian nor Slavonic, only their neighbours.) By Estland you must mean Estonia who got her independence back a decade ago. They are the closest relatives of Finns. They even have the same anthem (although with different lyrics) and their language is quite close to Finnish. Sometimes I almost understand it but it does sound occasionally very humourous and I bet they can say the same about Finnish. (Being unsure...) Estonia (along with her southern neighbours Latvia & Lithuania) can't really be considered Nordic countries in the traditional sense of the term but since they're on their way to membership in the European Union, we'll all be part of the same supranational organization anyway (except for Norway & Iceland who are traditionally close to other Nordic countries in most aspects; they (Norwegians) just ski faster). More euro coins for me to collect. (Sign of approval) Oh, I'd like to hear an estimate from a Swedish (and Danish if they exist here! ) member about the schedule of joining the Euro system (if ever). I'd like to see some coins eventually with queen Victoria's profile. (Enjoying a beer...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted April 15, 2003 Oh, I'd like to hear an estimate from a Swedish (and Danish if they exist here! ) member about the schedule of joining the Euro system (if ever). I'd like to see some coins eventually with queen Victoria's profile. (Being unsure...) It's probably not going to take that long before Sweden uses euro, but I'm not going to make any real estimates. Especially, since what you are looking for probably is much further into the future (Being unsure...) You know, both the king's grandfather and great-grand-father lived beyond ninety (his father died in unnatural causes) and since he is only 60 it'll likely be awhile until Victoria gets the Crown (Enjoying a beer...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 269 Posted April 15, 2003 On an entirely different topic [...] This thread is digressing more and more. I don't really mind, but perhaps the discussion should continue elsethread? (Being unsure...) (Order, order! ) (Order, order! ) (Being unsure...) (Enjoying a beer...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites