sekihiryu 51 Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) Only 2 choices because its either one or the other. Its like Yoda said "do or do not there is no try" - "like or like not there is no fence sitting" Jacques Cousteau can rest in peace. I was thinking about this and most of the Rikishi I like and cheer for are Yotsu and most of the ones I dont care much for are Tsuki/oshi. I never really thought about it but I guess I was subconsciously inclined to like Yotsu proponents and it probably explains why Musashigawa beya is my least favourite beya (with the exception of Dejima), a beya full of thrusting (Applauding...) So what spins your wheels, turns your propellor? grippers or thrusters? :-P p.s If you dont know what Yotsu or tsuki/oshi sumo is then now is the perfect time to find out ;-) Edited May 13, 2005 by sekihiryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 833 Posted May 13, 2005 What? No henka option? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted May 13, 2005 Uwatenage is my favorite kimarite. Kotonowaka is my favorite rikishi. Chiyotaikai was my favorite unfavorite Ozeki. I guess I'm a yotsu woman. :-P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 38,047 Posted May 13, 2005 Yotsu. A well-executed nage beats a propellor any day in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesinofuji 11 Posted May 13, 2005 I love to see the throws that usually come from Yotsu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zuikakuyama 1 Posted May 13, 2005 Is nage yotsu, or a class of its own? Anyway, I voted yotsu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 4,370 Posted May 13, 2005 I guess I'm a yotsu woman. B-)<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Poor Terao. Your No.5 fan doesn't love You anymore. Have a cookie! (Munching...) Is nage yotsu, or a class of its own?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'd say 100% yotsu.Funny thing for this poll to come up now, as I wondered only yesterday why I don't care much about the tsuppari guys. ...but then again: Tamakasuga ganbatte! (Punk rocker...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Onnagumo 4 Posted May 13, 2005 Uwatenage is my favorite kimarite.Kotonowaka is my favorite rikishi. Chiyotaikai was my favorite unfavorite Ozeki. I guess I'm a yotsu woman. B-) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I could have written this, except for the Chiyotaikai part (Punk rocker...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 107 Posted May 13, 2005 shitate/uwatenage,kubinage,kakenage,sotogake,uchigake and kirikaeshi are the moves i want to see and the moves i would like to execute if i was a rikishi ... i guess i prefer yotsu then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odoriou 0 Posted May 13, 2005 I want to see a hardcore-bulldozer-type of sumo: - 400 kg of man power B-) - a big clash (Jumping on the other guy...) - one man flying off the dohyo :-/ - fear in the eyes of the audience in first row (Yikes...) - no mercy (Punk rocker...) Oshi rules. (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yaezakura 0 Posted May 13, 2005 I want to see a hardcore-bulldozer-type of sumo:- 400 kg of man power (Exercising...) - a big clash (Jumping on the other guy...) - one man flying off the dohyo (Exercising...) - fear in the eyes of the audience in first row (Yikes...) - no mercy (Exercising...) Oshi rules. (Sigh...) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> ;-) I couldn't have said it better myself! (Applauding...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 224 Posted May 13, 2005 I voted yotsu, but I have come to appreciate oshi-zumo more and more. There is good and bad sumo of both varieties. I used to think that yotsu-zumo was the "better" style, perhaps because I started watching sumo during the heyday of Takanohana. But I have come to view it like this: a good rikishi uses oshi when he can, but yotsu when he must. Those who can do both have an advantage over the one-sided ones. For instance, Hokutoriki is helpless if the bout goes to yotsu; Takamisakari is helpless against a strong oshi attack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,229 Posted May 13, 2005 (edited) If the question was "do I prefer well-executed yotsu or well-executed oshi?", I'd probably have to say oshi. Making oshi-zumo look interesting definitely seems to be a harder job, so the rikishi who manage to do that tend to get my admiration, more so than yotsu specialists. (Wakanoyama absolutely rocks when he's on. Likewise the guy in my avatar...who, sadly, is decidedly not on this basho.) Overall though, I guess I prefer yotsu-zumo, since a mediocre yotsu-bout tends to be infinitely more pretty to watch than a mediocre oshi-bout (which usually degenerates into uncoordinated pulling after a few seconds). Edited May 13, 2005 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 38,047 Posted May 13, 2005 I find that a one-sided oshi match that lasts 2 seconds flat is unfair to the fans who paid good money to watch Sumo. It's cheating. (Exercising...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 466 Posted May 13, 2005 Yotsu for me. Nothing like a good "wedgie"..... (Exercising...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoshidango 0 Posted May 14, 2005 The beautiful yotsu by two tall & big guys grappling each other. To me the current beautiful example was of Kotoohshu-Roho match, older ones are like Takanomani-Akebono, or Onokuni-Konishiki, Mitoizumi-Takanomani... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burainoan 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Well, with yotsu defined so broadly and oshi defined so narrowly, i pretty much have no choice but to say yotsu. that said, for the pure versions of both, Akebono in his prime was much, much more interesting to watch than Taka in his. but really, i prefer nage and the uchi/soto leg stuff. and of course there's nothing quite like a beautifully executed utchari. Wakanami was THE MAN! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 4,922 Posted May 14, 2005 I find yotsu offers more variety and therefore more interest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
QttP 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Yotsu. Even though the only rikishi I really care about is a typical oshi-rikishi, in general, oshi-zumo is a bit duller. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 38,047 Posted May 14, 2005 what was the kimarite wakanohana 1 always seemed to use.he would feign one way and when his opponent resisted would snap up his arm under the others armpit and send them flying. amazing move. i'd love to learn it <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yobimodoshi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taizeniki 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Uwatenage is my favorite kimarite.... Chiyotaikai was my favorite unfavorite Ozeki. I guess I'm a yotsu woman. ;-) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yep.. me too! (In a state of confusion...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 463 Posted May 14, 2005 Oshi rules. ;-) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm with you Odoriou. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chiyomaru 0 Posted May 15, 2005 Yotsu. Even though the only rikishi I really care about is a typical oshi-rikishi, in general, oshi-zumo is a bit duller. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> (Sign of approval) I fully agree with you !!!! (Shaking head...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted May 16, 2005 I guess I'm a yotsu woman. :-P<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Poor Terao. Your No.5 fan doesn't love You anymore. Have a cookie! (Munching...) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I only loved him for his body. ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites