wanchanyama 0 Posted May 1, 2005 http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...6527338722&rd=1 Can't say that my French is too good, and my Japanese reading is not fantastic. I'm sure that the mawashi does not read Inazuma asin the Yokozuna from 1820/30s. Listed for sale only in France but currently only 100 Euro. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burainoan 0 Posted May 1, 2005 Looks to me like Sodegaura. don't know if it was ever a shikona, but with a little katakana "ke" in the middle, it's a place name in Chiba - not Ibaraki. fortunately it doesn't appear to be selling, so they won't be defrauding anyone. don't they have places to report stuff like this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted May 1, 2005 Well, there was actually a Sodenoura (I suppose that's the correct reading) in Juumaime back in 1792-93. One wonders whether this kesho-mawashi is quite that old though, but I suppose it's possible. If not it has to origin from somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elenrian 0 Posted May 1, 2005 ;-) There is a thread in the French sumo forum, and most of the members thonk it is a swindle... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Buckton 1 Posted May 1, 2005 Looks to me like Sodegaura. don't know if it was ever a shikona, but with a little katakana "ke" in the middle, it's a place name in Chiba - not Ibaraki.fortunately it doesn't appear to be selling, so they won't be defrauding anyone. don't they have places to report stuff like this? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I told the sellers of another mawashi direct it wasn't a shikona ever used by a registered rikishi according to the NSK - they halved the price but still tried to sell it. (Shaking head...) Don't know what happened. Mayve that is why in France only - people may not know and Japan thingy collectors might have more money than........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kitamusashi 0 Posted May 3, 2005 Both mawashi got sold. The French one for around 250 EURO and the one from a couple of weeks ago for $400 if I remember correctly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 3, 2005 Both mawashi got sold. The French one for around 250 EURO and the one from a couple of weeks ago for $400 if I remember correctly. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Time for me to start hitting the antique markets around here...there's money to be made. What did P.T. Barnum say... (Whistling...) (In a state of confusion...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted May 3, 2005 I wonder what a retired Tosa-ken yokozuna's kesho mawashi would go for? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Terarno 46 Posted May 4, 2005 Hi everybody. Several members of the Info-Sumo.net forum wrote to this seller, and we asked him where the mawashi comes from. He dared to say he had it from his wife's grand-grand-father, who of course was an important Japanese family... We've denounced this auction, but Ebay doesn't care. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
