Randomitsuki 2,826 Posted March 2, 2005 (edited) Hi everybody, This is a partially prepared message about the ongoing game of Banzuke Surfing. I am currently on holidays which means I cannot keep track on the dohyo happenings during Haru Basho. Due to a major cognitive malfunctioning on my behalf I saw myself forced to change the rules which I used for the inaugural edition of Hatsu Basho. New players are welcomed! Here are the modified rules: 1. This game can be played by everybody who is registered at the Sumo Forum. 2. Edited posts will not be accepted. If someone wants to change an entry, they should delete their original posts and re-enter. 3. Prior to the beginning of a basho participants post the name of a real rikishi they want to choose for the tournament. A simple posting of the rikishi's name on the game thread does the job. 4. Players are always allowed to name a rikishi from the bottom 32 rikishi in Jonokuchi division. If players were successful in prior bashos they are allowed to pick higher-ranked rikishi, depending on the so-called "choice point". The choice point for new players and unsuccessful players is defined as the 33rd lowest position on the banzuke. 5. If a picked rikishi escapes from the Lowest 32 in Ozumo (as indicated by the next banzuke), the banzuke position of the picked rikishi defines the new choice point. 6. To make things a little easier, players are allowed to nominate up to three jokers during their career. A joker means that you name an additional rikishi for a given basho. The one who is on a better banzuke position in the next basho will designate the new choice point. There is no limit for joker per basho, i.e. you could spend all your jokers in your very first basho by naming four rikishi instead of one. 7. If a chosen rikishi goes intai, the next choice point will be the last banzuke position of the intai rikishi. Exception: if the last position was among the lowest 32 in the banzuke, rule #4 applies. 8. The winner of a wave is the first to reach sanyaku. The game will continue after that point with exact rules for continuation to be determined. 9. A new, parallel game cycle starts every Hatsu Basho. Here are the first rankings according to the Haru Banzuke (number of asterisks indicates the number of jokers left): Player........................Allowed Picks 1. Asashosakari*** Jd65e Kagemaru and below 2. Zentoryu*** Jd65e Kagemaru and below 3. Oshirokita** Jd65e Kagemaru and below 4. Mmikasazuma** Jd65e Kagemaru and below 5. Budinishiki** Jd65e Kagemaru and below 6. Andoreasu*** Jd65w Yamatofuji and below 7. Kintamayama*** Jd66e Yoshida and below 8. Azumaryu*** Jd66e Yoshida and below 9. Doitsuyama*** Jd66e Yoshida and below 10. furanohana*** Jd66e Yoshida and below 11. Zenjimoto*** Jd66e Yoshida and below 12. Itachi*** Jd66e Yoshida and below 13. Tamanaogijima** Jd66e Yoshida and below 14. Yubiquitoyama** Jd66e Yoshida and below 15. Mattjila*** Jd93w Taikan and below 16. Frinkanohana*** Jd95w Kawai and below 17. Svanidze*** Jd106e Omiyamoto and below 18. Yangnomazuma*** Jd107w Shikinokawa and below 19. Exil*** Jd107w Shikinokawa and below 20. Zeokage*** Jd108e Ikemoto and below 21. Kashunowaka*** Jd109w Oginome and below 22. Takanorappa*** Jd112w Takaki and below 23. Gusoyama*** Jd113e Onoarashi and below 24. Nishinoshima*** Jk21e Fujioka and below 25. aderechelsea*** Jk22w Maeamami and below 26. Gernobono*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 27. Jonosuke*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 28. Tameiki*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 29. Jakusotsu*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 30. Jejima*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 31. Kaihayaiha*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 32. Golynohana*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 33. sashimaru*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below 34. Misisko*** Jk23e Dewamiyako and below Current choice point for all new players is Jk22w, i.e. they are allowed to pick all rikishi starting from Jk23e Dewamiyako and below. Sorry for the formatting, I'm in a terrible hurry. I have no time to check whether you entered correct picks. I can also give no advice as to any questions regarding the rules. Please find out for yourself. Budinishiki Edited November 28, 2005 by Randomitsuki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,826 Posted March 2, 2005 My pick: Jd65w Yamatofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,385 Posted March 2, 2005 My interpretation of 'choice point' is that I can pick any rikishi ranked up to that point. Is this correct? Well, as I did badly last time, I'm going to use all 3 of my jokers, and go with four of the best from the new crop... Jk31e Kageyama Jk31w Sawai Jk32e Kadomoto Jk33e Masutoo Thank you ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,331 Posted March 2, 2005 (edited) My interpretation of 'choice point' is that I can pick any rikishi ranked up to that point. Edited March 2, 2005 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,385 Posted March 2, 2005 AFAIK (and I believe this was spelled out more clearly two months ago...), you can pick anyone below your choice point, which precludes somebody latching on to a future star (e.g. Baruto) and then riding up the banzuke by picking him basho after basho. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thank you ;-) I should have probably dug up the old thread first... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Azumashida 1 Posted March 2, 2005 My picks (one joker used): Jd93e Yatsurugiyama Jk31w Sawai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomoe 0 Posted March 2, 2005 My picks (with one Joker) are: Jk31w Sawai Jk33w Fukuoka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted March 2, 2005 Jk37e Sato is my choice and i will use Jk31w Sawai as a joker .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frinkanohana 13 Posted March 2, 2005 My picks (using a joker) are: Jd95w Kawai Jd100e Anrai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,969 Posted March 3, 2005 Jk33e Masutoo Go Attila! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 103 Posted March 3, 2005 Here's my pick: Jk31e Kageyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 188 Posted March 3, 2005 Assuming I am not allowed to ride on with Nakatani again, I will take the next highest rikishi: Jd65e Kagemaru And burn another joker on: Jd65w Yamatofuji - Oshirokita Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randomitsuki 2,826 Posted March 4, 2005 Hidehi! I noticed some mistakes in my initial post, and to make things clearer I have edited it to indicate explicitly which picks are allowed for each player. Enjoy the basho while I enjoy my holiday in terrific Sydney! Budinishiki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeokage 0 Posted March 4, 2005 18. Yangnomazuma*** Jd107w Shikinokawa and below19. Exil***Â Â Â Â Jd107w Shikinokawa and below 20. Zeokage***Â Â Jd108e Ikemoto and below <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I also chose Shikinokawa last basho, however I seem to have the rikishi below him as my starting point... :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,331 Posted March 4, 2005 18. Yangnomazuma*** Jd107w Shikinokawa and below19. Exil*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted March 4, 2005 (edited) 18. Yangnomazuma*** Jd107w Shikinokawa and below19. Exil***Â Â Â Â Jd107w Shikinokawa and below 20. Zeokage***Â Â Jd108e Ikemoto and below <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I also chose Shikinokawa last basho, however I seem to have the rikishi below him as my starting point... :( <{POST_SNAPBACK}> You basically can't pick the same KK rikishi two basho in a row. So your starting point is the next rikishi ranked below your pick from last basho. As mentioned before, this is done to keep players from riding a young, star prospect, basho after basho, all the way up the banzuke. I wouldn't be too upset about not being able to pick Shikinokawa again.... you may end up being thankful you couldn't... (Punk rocker...) Edited March 4, 2005 by Zentoryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zeokage 0 Posted March 5, 2005 18. Yangnomazuma*** Jd107w Shikinokawa and below19. Exil*** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Itachi 396 Posted March 6, 2005 I'll take Takamiryu Jd 97w As a Joker I'll take Masutoo Jk 33e. While it is tempting to take Sawai as a second joker, I'll save my jokers for later rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites