Banzuke for Nagoya 2025

[Asashosakari 20,285]

15 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

... another one was a Ms1e snubbed in favor of a Ms18(!) 7-0

Internal regulations demanded promotion for 7-0's down to Ms20 from 1967 (after the divisional contractions) to 1977, which was generally a tougher approach than what they had done before (then without any specific rules, AFAIK), so that Ms18 promotion in 1964 was pretty standard for that era regardless of the effect it had on higher-ranked KKs.

[Jakusotsu 6,401]

7 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

there have to be at least 2 each of komusubi, sekiwake, ozeki (yoks are simply ozeki with extra licence)

I'm quite sure they would go with a single ozeki if the circumstances are wrong enough (which simply hasn't happened so far).

[Reonito 1,788]

9 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

I'm quite sure they would go with a single ozeki if the circumstances are wrong enough (which simply hasn't happened so far).

Is it written down that a kadoban ozeki must be demoted with MK? They did make a covid exception for Mitakeumi. They just failed to demote a 6-9 guy out of sanyaku for the first time in 190 opportunities in the 6-basho era (not counting Daieisho's 6-7-2 in the covid basho), even though there was a perfectly reasonable alternative option for komusubi, so they may just do whatever has to be done to keep two ozeki on the banzuke.

[Yamanashi 4,085]

2 minutes ago, Reonito said:

s it written down that a kadoban ozeki must be demoted with MK?

This is the way.  The kadoban Ozeki is simply granted Senior Ozeki status.

[maglor 132]

10 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

I'm quite sure they would go with a single ozeki if the circumstances are wrong enough (which simply hasn't happened so far).

This is what I personally believe. Entering May 2025 the only two Y/O were a kyujo Terunofuji and a kadoban Takakeisho. There were two different ways they could have solved this problem with just slight deviations. If they had promoted Takakeisho after January, when he had put together a 12-3D and a 12-3Y as well as a relative stretch of good health, we would have had two Yokozuna and no issues whatsoever. If they didn't want to bend the rules for an injury-prone Ozeki, they could also have promoted Kiri to Ozeki after March and a stretch of 8-7, 11-4, 12-3Y. 31 wins + a yusho is perhaps a win short but they would have been promoting a young, healthy, improving sekiwake.

Instead they created a scenario where they were a Takakeisho injury and bad peformances from Kiri + Daieisho from having to do something drastic to prevent a one Ozeki banzuke. I feel that in case we simply would have had one ozeki, and we would wait for someone else to put up 30-31 wins to balance out the banzuke again.

[Bunbukuchagama 978]

3 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

The kadoban Ozeki is simply granted Senior Ozeki status.

Ozeki emeritus. 

[Andreas21 221]

How about: the Banzuke committee members regularly have a similar discussion before the Banzuke when having a beer. The conservatives argue with precedents and traditions, while the progressives want to add fairness and consistency. They get drunk over it. The day after they only vaguely remember the consensus, if they had one at all. Then, they just do the Banzuke, regardless.

[Steve 14]

I believe you have accurately described the banzuke process

[Tigerboy1966 1,638]

I suppose they could also make the S1e a brevet ozeki. I don't know what the Japanese for "brevet" is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevet_(military)

[Bunbukuchagama 978]

6 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

I suppose they could also make the S1e a brevet ozeki. I don't know what the Japanese for "brevet" is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brevet_(military)

"Acting" Ozeki would work too. 

[Wakawakawaka 219]

The East side rikishi at Makushita 6-13 (8 in a row), are all at their highest career ranks. Has anything like that ever happened outside of Jonokuchi?

[Yubinhaad 11,975]

On 29/06/2025 at 23:29, Yubinhaad said:

It's been quite some time since we saw a snake on the dohyo, but Asahiyama-beya's Nishikinoryu is now Hakuda, white snake. Maybe he's a fan of rock music? He also changes the second kanji of the given name but not the reading.

Sd73w Nishikinoryu Ryusei > Hakuda Ryusei (白蛇　龍成,  はくだ　りゅうせい)

Having finished make-koshi in five of his last six basho, Asahiyama-oyakata (former Sekiwake Kotonishiki) suggested a fresh start under a new shikona. So, Nishikinoryu consulted with the okamisan and decided upon Hakuda, partly due to the idea of shedding the skin and starting again. Further, as a child he visited the Japan Snake Centre in his home prefecture, Gunma, and had a large python draped around him, leaving him with a lasting love of snakes. 2025 is also the year of the snake, so he feels that "Everything is just right, including the zodiac sign. I want to win five bouts in this basho and gambarize to move back up."

Hakuda won his first bout under his new shikona, defeating Imamura today.

 

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Tsugaruumi appears to have reversed the change of his 'umi' kanji that he made nine years ago, though this is one of those changes the Kyokai site doesn't show. As Nikkan puts it this time: ■はサンズイに矢の大が母. He has also changed the given name of his shikona.

Sd38w Tsugaruumi Masanobu > Tsugaruumi Denzo (津軽海　傳三,  つがるうみ　でんぞう)

I didn't spot it at the time, but Tsugaruumi's new given name was also the real given name of his grandfather.