Invitation to Play GTB - July 2025 - 334 entries. RESULTS!!

[Ganzohnesushi 547]

4 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Still too few to save me from MK this time.

As far as I can see more than half of the newbies finished ahead of you. So be glad with your result, it would have been even worse with more new players. 

Ganzohnesushi

[Reonito 1,784]

11 hours ago, Wakawakawaka said:

That is true, but if Kusano ended 10-5 would he not have landed at the same spot? Those 3 extra wins effectively meant nothing.

There are ceilings at various boundaries. Say both sekiwake go KK, both komusubi go MK, M1e goes 11-4, M1w goes 8-7, no other good K candidates, so they end up at K1e and K1w. M1e would have ended up in the same spot if he'd gone 8-7, so those 3 wins effectively mean nothing.

[Wakawakawaka 219]

41 minutes ago, Reonito said:

There are ceilings at various boundaries. Say both sekiwake go KK, both komusubi go MK, M1e goes 11-4, M1w goes 8-7, no other good K candidates, so they end up at K1e and K1w. M1e would have ended up in the same spot if he'd gone 8-7, so those 3 wins effectively mean nothing.

That's obviously correct, but it's different at the top where there's (basically) no room to go. Any fix, like making the M1e 11-4 an S2, could cause a domino effect throughout the whole division. Kusano could have been placed at M13e, overtaking Shodai and Churanoumi without causing either to be overdemoted. It would acknowledge his greatly superior rank/record combo over Fujinokawa, with no adverse side-effects. In the end though the banzuke committee is obviously not listening to me though, so I'm just arguing with myself.

[Reonito 1,784]

Yeah this is obviously a softer and more subjective ceiling: "we can't start placing juryo guys until everyone with reasonable rank/record combos in makuuchi has been placed." It's worked very differently in the past, but the general trend recently, and with the current committee in particular, has been to increasingly favor higher rank and incumbency, with extreme results like Nishikifuji staying in the top division after 6-9 from lowest rank, and now Takayasu breaking decades of precedent.

[Wakawakawaka 219]

This GTB was brutal. Before this banzuke we had 12 players with KK streaks of 10+ basho. We've gained 1 - CaptSmarta$$, but lost 4, including the pack leader Goshobiyama (Cheeseofuji now takes over the role). Here's the full update.

KK streak: All-time
1) Okisuruga, Asashosakari: 29
3) Okisuruga: 25
4) Bafa: 24
5) Konosato: 23
6) Cheesofuji, Goshobiyama: 22
8) Takanorappa, Kurausu, Gurowake, Reonito: 20

KK streak: Active
Cheesofuji, Goshobiyama: 22
Bunbukuchagama: 16
Reonito, Sugakusha, AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA: 15
Beeftank, TochiYESshin, Asset: 14
Kale: 13
glacier, Kachikoshi: 11
CaptSmarta$$: 10

And for more streaks...

9-6 or better streaks: All-time
1) Okisuruga: 25
2) Asashosakari (2): 17
4) Bunbukuchagama: 16
5) Feginowaka, Asashosakari, Pandaazuma, Sakura: 15
9) TochiYESshin: 14
10) 7 players tied with 13 basho (2 of which are active)

10-5 or better streaks: All-time
1) Okisuruga: 19
2) Hamanoyama: 13
3) Feginowaka, Kurausu, Asashosakari (2), Kyokuhagyo, Reonito: 10
9) Oshirokita, Pandaazuma, Okisuruga, Kaito: 9

Active leaders: Cheesofuji & ChewieKen with 7 basho.

Edited July 7 by Wakawakawaka