Invitation to Play GTB - July 2025 - 334 entries. RESULTS!!

Kintamayama · May 27

It's that time of the year again. Time to play a fantasy sumo game. It's GTB, or "Guess the Banzuke". .

This is a formal invitation to play the "Guess the Banzuke" game. 27 years, 164 bashos or so. Please play. It's free for all, for now.

Game rules: Guess the Banzuke. Simple. You get two points for a bulls-eye and one point for just getting the rank right. You get no points for thinking Oonosato couldn't do it in his 13th basho. Tiebreakers - Most total guesses, then we check the banzuke backwards - getting the lower half right will be important. The most correct guesses in the last ten places will win the tiebreaker. If still tied we go up a ranking at a time like a penalty shootout. If still tied, the earliest entry wins. If still tied, the player who says "ni" wins. It's up to you to check if you are on the list of entries. It's going to be your fault if you don't notice that your entry went missing in the Internet void. No late entries will be expected or accepted. Those are the rules, and the rules will never be changed.

For rules, standings and the secret to life: http://www.dichne.com/Guess.htm

For the nifty entry form, which will hopefully continue to do what it's intended to do :http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBEntry.aspx

For Chiyotasuke's incredible helper: https://gtbhelper.vercel.app

For the "new" archives:http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/gtbarchive.aspx

See if you are on the entry list: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBEntryList.aspx

Deadline: Monday, June 23rd, 2025 at 18:00 GMT ("Garnicht Mit Traube") - PLEASE NOTE-THIS IS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE OFFICIAL BANZUKE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Special thanks to showrunners Andoreasu, Wizard Doitsuyama for everything else, and all of you who wish to participate

***MESSAGE: Please note that as you probably found out by now, the confirmation e-mail thing is not working, so I suggest a screen capture for now for those of you who wish to save their guesses.

Edited June 30 by Kintamayama

Tigerboy1966 · June 2

I continue to mirror the career of Nishikigi. After benefiting from a run of solid results and some banzuke luck to break into sanyaku a year ago I now find myself back in juryo again.

Jakusotsu · June 3

It's not a bad career to mirror. Still better than turning into a Daishomaru or Fujiazuma.

Kintamayama · June 8

Two weeks to go, take away an hour or two.

Good one there.

Wakawakawaka · June 9

Now presenting... another unsolicited attempt at a GTB meta-banzuke, complete with most if not all the things you hate about real banzukes!

This would be Natsu 2025 (so not taking into account the most recent basho). I have all new players starting with a TD equivalent to the last spot on the banzuke. Never had any issue with that before, but needless to say with 100+ new players, the bottom got a little crowded. Also this fashionable meta-banzuke is presented with abhorrently unfashionable double spacing because I can't get the forum to cooperate.

(Y1e: 9-6, 62)

Goshobiyama

Y

(O1w: 11-4 J, 66)

Kaito

O

Asashosakari

(S1e: 10-5, 64)

(S1w: 8-7, 58)

TochiYESshin

S

Asset

(K2w: 10-5, 64)

(K2e: 9-6, 63)

Cheesofuji

K

Bunbukuchagama

(M9e: 14-1 Y, 70)

(M1w: 8-7, 59)

Reonito

M1

Beeftank

(M2e: 8-7, 59)

(M4w: 9-6, 62)

Tim Sumo

M2

Gurowake

(K1e: 6-9, 55)

(M3w: 8-7, 59)

Chiyonosawa

M3

Pandaazuma

(M4e: 8-7, 57)

(M1e: 6-9, 53)

Kishikaisei

M4

Kobashi

(K1w: 5-10, 52)

(M7w: 9-6, 62)

Kale

M5

Itachiyama

(M6e: 8-7, 59)

(M3e: 6-9, 53)

Shoryuyama

M6

Sugakusha

(M11w: 10-5, 64)

(M10e: 9-6, 61)

Yoshio

M7

ScreechingOwl

(M8e: 8-7, 58)

(M2w: 5-10, 52)

BlackPinkMawashi

M8

Akakyoryu

(M5e: 6-9, 53)

(M6w: 6-9, 53)

Nantonoyama

M9

Randy Savage

(M13w: 9-6, 61)

(M9w: 7-8, 56)

Heriokuno

M10

Oskanohana

(M12e: 8-7, 58)

(M13e: 8-7, 60)

Toranoshin

M11

Kachikoshi

(M15w: 9-6, 63)

(M14w: 8-7, 57)

Pitinosato

M12

Saruwatari II

(M12w: 7-8, 56)

(M8w: 5-10, 51)

Ganzohnesushi

M13

Gooner

(M11e: 6-9, 54)

(M16w: 8-7, 58)

Wakudoyama

M14

Toshishugisha

(J5w: 13-2 D, 67)

(J6e: 13-2 Y, 68)

Taxinohana

M15

CaptSmarta$$

(J7e: 13-2 D, 67)

(J1e: 9-6, 60)

Hisui

M16

Chishafuwaku

(M15e: 6-9, 55)

(J2w: 9-6, 61)

Papayasu

M17

Purichu Ruyaru

(J3w: 9-6, 61)

(M5w: 1-14, 31)

Susanoo

M18

(M16e: 6-9, 54)

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J1

Oortael

(M10w: 3-12, 44)

(M7e: kyujo)

Korinokoishi

J2

PaURA

(M17w: 5-10, 51)

(J2e: 6-9, 52)

Balon

J3

Ullishimaru

(J6w: 8-7, 58)

(J9e: 8-7, 57)

Masanoumi

J4

Gonzaburow

(J4w: 7-8, 55)

(J3e: 5-10, 49)

Shatsume

J5

Flew

(J5e: 6-9, 53)

(M14e: kyujo)

Doreikishi

J6

Chiyotasuke

(J9w: 8-7, 58)

(J12e: 9-6, 60)

Barutonoumi

J7

Takaryu

(J10e: 8-7, 57)

(J4e: 5-10, 51)

Jakusotsu

J8

Akawainnoumi

(J8e: 7-8, 55)

(M17e: kyujo)

Sakura

J9

Kajiyanosho

(J14w: 9-6, 62)

(J1w: 2-13, 41)

Velsi

J10

Kinoko

(J13w: 8-7, 56)

(Ms2w: 5-2, 59)

ChewieKen

J11

Rikioi

(J11w: 7-8, 54)

(Ms3e: 5-2, 59)

Joezeki

J12

Fishomata

(J11e: 6-9, 52)

(Ms1w: 4-3, 56)

Zelerny

J13

Pepenohana

(Ms4w: 5-2, 62)

(Ms3w: 4-3, 54)

Jejima

J14

Akagitsune

(Ms4e: 4-3, 54)

(J12w: 6-9, 53)

Sukubidubidu

Ms1

Yarimotsu

(J8w: 4-11, 46)

(Ms8w: 6-1, 66)

Duden

Ms2

Isokiho

(Ms26e: 7-0 Y, 70)

(J13e: 5-10, 51)

Flohru

Ms3

Shosei

(J14e: 5-10, 51)

(Ms6e: 4-3, 58)

Kyotomo

Ms4

Kitakachiyama

(Ms9w: 5-2, 59)

(Ms7e: 4-3, 53)

Ack!

Ms5

Tyerenex

(Ms15e: 6-1, 69)

(Ms8e: 4-3, 53)

Wakawakawaka

Ms6

Heider

(Ms1e: 3-4, 48)

(Ms11w: 5-2, 60)

ballerscuba

Ms7

Koshinoumi

(Ms19w: 6-1, 68)

(Ms6w: kosho)

Miwabe

Ms8

Simon

(J7w: kyujo)

(Ms11e: 4-3, 54)

Warusaru

Ms9

Fia

(Ms12e: 4-3, 53)

(Ms16w: 5-2, 59)

Yagikunshu

Ms10

Krakel

(Ms9e: kosho)

(J10w: kyujo)

Tetsuba

Ms11

Joputosu

(Ms14e: 4-3, 55)

(Ms10w: kosho)

Hashibamiyama

Ms12

Hakunojo

(Ms15w: 4-3, 54)

(Ms30w: 6-1, 67)

Schwoosh

Ms13

Tenguhoho

(Ms17e: 4-3, 55)

(Ms23e: 5-2, 60)

herbern

Ms14

Muhomatsu

(Ms20e: 4-3, 57)

(Ms10e: 3-4, 47)

Tim W

Ms15

Itchynotoe

(Ms5w: 2-5, 45)

(Ms22w: 4-3, 56)

Wakaarashi

Ms16

Akinomaki

(Ms13e: 3-4, 51)

(Ms32e: 5-2, 63)

Kotokishi

Ms17

BlckKnght

(Ms27e: 4-3, 57)

(Ms16e: 3-4, 48)

Mowse

Ms18

Kotononami

(Ms18w: kosho)

(Sd34w: 7-0 Y, 67)

Wakanosabi

Ms19

IQ

(Ms37e: 5-2, 63)

(Ms17w: 3-4, 49)

KatsumaBen

Ms20

HarlanT

(Ms30e: 4-3, 58)

(Ms18e: 3-4, 49)

Fujinowaka

Ms21

Wakatakasake

(Ms31w: 4-3, 55)

(Ms57e: 6-1, 68)

slayakaya

Ms22

Hankegami

(Ms19e: 3-4, 49)

(Ms13w: 2-5, 43)

Mondage

Ms23

Tenshinhan

(Ms33e: 4-3, 54)

(Ms14w: 2-5, 44)

Taeghan

Ms24

Andonishiki

(Ms24w: kosho)

(Ms21w: 3-4, 51)

Kaerufuji

Ms25

Ichinanjo

(Ms22e: 3-4, 51)

(Ms36e: 4-3, 55)

Kaiomitsuki

Ms26

Wakaotori

(Ms45w: 5-2, 62)

(Ms37w: 4-3, 54)

Roukii

Ms27

Hobbobgob

(Ms38w: 4-3, 55)

(Ms24e: 3-4, 52)

SumoandSand

Ms28

OhnoOho

(Ms25e: 3-4, 52)

(Ms40e: 4-3, 54)

Manatsumai

Ms29

Gilgamesh

(Sd8e: 6-1, 65)

(Ms52e: 5-2, 62)

Nanikitanohito

Ms30

Octofuji

(Ms20w: 2-5, 39)

(Ms43e: 4-3, 53)

Tenisukoto

Ms31

gtree10

(Ms27w: 3-4, 47)

(Ms53e: 5-2, 64)

Renaldomoon

Ms32

Leonishiki

(Ms54e: 5-2, 60)

(Ms45e: 4-3, 54)

Jaminake

Ms33

Jdpbarber

(Ms29e: 3-4, 48)

(Ms56e: 5-2, 60)

Multimikstar

Ms34

Netakata

(Ms48e: 4-3, 57)

(Ms2e: kyujo)

Konosato

Ms35

Devined

(Sd1w: 5-2, 59)

(Ms34e: 3-4, 48)

Oshirokita

Ms36

Kurasu

(Ms35e: 3-4, 46)

(Ms28e: 2-5, 39)

Modra

Ms37

Frinkanohana

(Ms21e: 1-6, 34)

(Ms28w: 2-5, 45)

Chiyohanakuso

Ms38

Kyoshiro

(Sd5e: 5-2, 58)

(Ms5e: kyujo)

Golynohana

Ms39

Ardonite

(Ms55e: 4-3, 53)

(Ms29w: 2-5, 40)

asanosanpo

Ms40

Musubifuji

(Ms56w: 4-3, 57)

(Ms7w: kyujo)

Supizakage

Ms41

Fukurou (2)

(Ms57w: 4-3, 58)

(Ms25w: 1-6, 36)

Leo Dickinson

Ms42

AoiyamaFan

(Sd11w: 5-2, 63)

(Sd2e: 4-3, 54)

Sezhedifuji

Ms43

Bill

(Ms34w: 2-5, 43)

(Sd37e: 6-1, 66)

VanDeBeast

Ms44

Hoshotakamoto

(Ms12w: kyujo)

(Ms42w: 3-4, 51)

cranberrytea

Ms45

Atrumus

(Ms44e: 3-4, 46)

(Ms44w: 3-4, 49)

Mazu

Ms46

StreetwearLegendAbi

(Sd5w: 4-3, 53)

(Sd6w: 4-3, 51)

Bombadil

Ms47

Oshiyama

(Ms38e: 2-5, 39)

(Sd7e: 4-3, 48)

Furuimori

Ms48

matrix

(Ms47e: 3-4, 52)

(Sd9e: 4-3, 50)

Ketsukai

Ms49

Simon!

(Ms39w: 2-5, 44)

(Ms47w: 3-4, 47)

Eiji

Ms50

Wakatake

(Sd10e: 4-3, 48)

(Ms40w: 2-5, 39)

Doraiumi

Ms51

Kotowazasato

(Ms48w: 3-4, 46)

(Sd23e: 5-2, 56)

Brice

Ms52

Kaiowaka

(Ms49w: 3-4, 48)

(Sd24w: 5-2, 56)

Taker4Y

Ms53

Kasamatsuri

(Ms42e: 2-5, 41)

(Sd13e: 4-3, 54)

The Goonch

Ms54

eperon

(Ms51e: 3-4, 52)

(Ms43w: 2-5, 45)

sabnoumi

Ms55

makafuji

(Ms23w: kyujo)

(Sd15e: 4-3, 54)

BeccaD

Ms56

intarga

(Sd28w: 5-2, 56)

(Sd16w: 4-3, 52)

Kcramsib

Ms57

Domichi

(Sd29e: 5-2, 55)

(Sd18e: 4-3, 48)

Sumonubi

Ms58

Fzikawa

(Ms58w: kosho)

(Ms26w: kyujo)

Kowaiiazumaya

Ms59

ereesupaipaa

(Ms54w: 3-4, 51)

(Sd19w: 4-3, 53)

Lord kanz

Ms60

RaeucherLax

(Sd21e: 4-3, 48)

(Sd35w: 5-2, 57)

Brianzuna

Sd1

Koorifuu

(Ms31e: kyujo)

(Ms50e: 2-5, 43)

Kintamayama

Sd2

Yoshinoryu

(Sd36w: 5-2, 59)

(Sd24e: 4-3, 53)

chenrip

Sd3

Andoreasu

(Ms50w: 2-5, 45)

(Sd4e: kosho)

Sakurahoro

Sd4

TylerBaker99

(Sd25e: 4-3, 52)

(Ms59w: 3-4, 47)

Anjinsan

Sd5

hakuhoforpresident

(Ms32w: kyujo)

(Sd6e: kosho)

Haregeto

Sd6

Tombo

(Ms60e: 3-4, 47)

(Ms33w: kyujo)

glacier

Sd7

Hananofuji

(Ms60w: 3-4, 52)

(Sd27e: 4-3, 54)

kostuek

Sd8

Silent_Coup

(Ms35w: kyujo)

(Ms46e: 1-6, 38)

Veshana

Sd9

Unkonoyama

(Ms36w: kyujo)

(Sd2w: 3-4, 41)

Shimanoumi

Sd10

Rinnafuji

(Sd32e: 4-3, 53)

(Ms39e: kyujo)

Moshogaeru

Sd11

Doidesemu

(Sd46w: 5-2, 59)

(Sd34e: 4-3, 48)

benjiSUSHIyama

Sd12

Keeparu

(Ms41e: kyujo)

(Ms58e: 2-5, 43)

Taiseiyama

Sd13

Eureka_1

(Ms41w: kyujo)

(Ms59e: 2-5, 41)

Tupayumi

Sd14

Torafujii

(Ms51w: 1-6, 37)

(Sd8w: 3-4, 44)

Mr.Rofl

Sd15

imaginethings

(Sd9w: 3-4, 46)

(Sd39w: 4-3, 51)

Jimizakura

Sd16

Wamahada

(Sd10w: 3-4, 40)

(Sd53w: 5-2, 61)

Darkeruusernamu

Sd17

Furanku

(Sd11e: 3-4, 42)

(Ms46w: kyujo)

Sakurion

Sd18

That1WhoLovesKotonowaka

(Sd12w: 3-4, 43)

(Sd4w: 2-5, 35)

Aminoumi

Sd19

Chisaiwashi

(Sd14e: 3-4, 45)

(Ms49e: kyujo)

RyanTradesFutures

Sd20

Athenayama

(Sd7w: 2-5, 37)

(Ms52w: kyujo)

Mariohana

Sd21

Kujo

(Ms53w: kyujo)

(Sd50w: 4-3, 53)

SoupDragon

Sd22

Yubinhaad

(Sd20w: 3-4, 41)

(Ms55w: kyujo)

Nutzername

Sd23

Hoodoryufuji

(Sd22e: 3-4, 45)

(Sd53e: 4-3, 52)

Komburyu

Sd24

Konishiki

(Sd15w: 2-5, 38)

(Sd26e: 3-4, 46)

Miso Meow

Sd25

SubmergedBass

(Sd27w: 3-4, 47)

(Sd28e: 3-4, 41)

Kamahiko

Sd26

Hokumikatsuki

(Sd61w: 4-3, 51)

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 63)

Bajar

Sd27

Atenzan

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 63)

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 62)

Tetsukabe

Sd28

Mikeneko

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 62)

hakuoho fan

Sd29

RevTrev

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 60)

(Sd30e: kosho)

EJC

Sd30

BeebBuub

(Sd30w: kosho)

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 60)

Lt. Ramathorn

Sd31

quasar

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 59)

Nishikiryu

Sd32

Okowan

(Sd32w: kosho)

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 59)

Maggie

Sd33

ShiroKengan

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 58)

Drewzaru

Sd34

Kikennasai

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 58)

Kadoban Kyle

Sd35

Jaed

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 58)

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 57)

Kinryu

Sd36

Dr.Jedi

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 57)

Patta

Sd37

titan3

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 56)

(Sd38e: kosho)

Kinfushichojima

Sd38

Horonoryu

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 56)

(Sd39e: kosho)

Dekkai

Sd39

FrostOnIce

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 56)

Justin Sato

Sd40

Kakaryu

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 55)

phredd

Sd41

Chucksan

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 55)

Kuronopon

Sd42

Hagetaka

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 55)

Shoumaru

Sd43

Biblioblade

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 55)

Daikaze

Sd44

Bowing2tomorrow

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 55)

Ginokori

Sd45

Kirinoumi

(Sd76TD: 5-2, 55)

(Sd65e: 4-3, 49)

JGQ

Sd46

Kaminari no taiyo

(Sd14w: 1-6, 29)

(Sd17e: 1-6, 27)

Fashiriteta

Sd47

Tamanaogijima

(Sd19e: 1-6, 32)

(Sd71w: 4-3, 48)

Faustonowaka

Sd48

Nivasta

(Sd38w: 3-4, 46)

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 54)

Obake

Sd49

FukuraAgi

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 54)

Chousanrishi

Sd50

Akarui taiyo

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 54)

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 53)

WarMachineBR

Sd51

Venus

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 53)

Slice

Sd52

Scotishuiter

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 53)

RyanJames

Sd53

PredArt

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 53)

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 52)

Shirokuma

Sd54

IceCreamTaco

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 52)

Kotojaseku

Sd55

Mark Paulson

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 52)

(Sd56e: kosho)

Orandanoyama

Sd56

Callum

(Sd56w: kosho)

(Sd57e: kosho)

loran1212

Sd57

Hoshizakura

(Sd57w: kosho)

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 52)

Mizuhofuji

Sd58

Ryoshishokunin

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 52)

Goose

Sd59

gus35

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 52)

MaruKat

Sd60

Daimaguro

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 51)

Jackfrzr

Sd61

Hooshoryu

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 51)

Tamawashoryu

Sd62

Yoshiaki

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 51)

JoshiePoo

Sd63

blazartrafalgar

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 51)

whywhywhy

Sd64

Kitanoishi

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 51)

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 50)

Michikuzu

Sd65

none

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 50)

peterj793

Sd66

Karu

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 50)

DarkJah

Sd67

Deonoyama

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 50)

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 49)

Lobotomy Sumo

Sd68

Misutapi

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 49)

REN

Sd69

OzuKazan

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 49)

Lamenthia

Sd70

Emi-mai no Ura

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 48)

Hiru

Sd71

Yamanohana

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 48)

Phiffonohana

Sd72

Isaac Vasquez

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 48)

Sumosnow

Sd73

Chiyonofuji

(Sd76TD: 4-3, 48)

Dropkix

Sd74

kenshoryu

(Sd58e: kosho)

(Sd58w: kosho)

Kagakusha

Sd75

GR SUMO

(Sd44e: 3-4, 47)

(Sd1e: kyujo)

jjdynasty

Sd76

Nakagishi

(Sd62e: kosho)

(Sd62w: kosho)

Abuza

Sd77

DolorousClem

(Sd3e: kyujo)

(Sd47w: 3-4, 40)

Hyomondoko

Sd78

Indorfin

(Sd3w: kyujo)

(Sd64e: kosho)

Wakaflockakage

Sd79

Makayasu

(Sd48w: 3-4, 43)

(Sd44w: 2-5, 38)

Wakatakakater

Sd80

Applefuji

(Sd55w: 3-4, 40)

(Sd12e: kyujo)

Hidenotora

Jd1

Kashunowaka

(Sd13w: kyujo)

(Sd49w: 2-5, 35)

Jirkush

Jd2

Tsuchinoninjin

(Sd16e: kyujo)

(Sd41e: 1-6, 30)

Gokujira

Jd3

Tomodomo

(Sd76w: kosho)

(Sd17w: kyujo)

Paruma

Jd4

Speck00

(Sd18w: kyujo)

(Sd20e: kyujo)

BariiHachiBenson

Jd5

Kaibutsunofuji

(Sd65w: 3-4, 42)

(Sd21w: kyujo)

Papiyama

Jd6

jalax

(Sd22w: kyujo)

(Sd23w: kyujo)

thanike

Jd7

jestemzeki

(Sd68e: 3-4, 40)

(Sd25w: kyujo)

EasyFirst

Jd8

Tsukishiryo

(Sd26w: kyujo)

(Sd63e: 2-5, 33)

4tunaTissim0

Jd9

Dankohikari

(Sd29w: kyujo)

(Sd74e: 3-4, 43)

Takanorappa

Jd10

Beirunomori

(Sd55e: 1-6, 30)

(Sd31e: kyujo)

Yakobu

Jd11

Skyden

(Sd31w: kyujo)

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 47)

Mitsifuji

Jd12

Chris Notarnicola

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 47)

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 46)

Geralous

Jd13

Powerful Pistons

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 46)

Blaise

Jd14

LaMarr B

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 46)

Horoyama

Jd15

Mishoryu

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 45)

Steyonofuji

Jd16

Kagekatsu

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 45)

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 43)

Meiwaku

Jd17

Kuiniryu

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 43)

Adamuyama

Jd18

Andreas21

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 42)

Kitamatsu

Jd19

Mitsuhokkai

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 42)

Terushoma

Jd20

Hidenosato Niimaru

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 41)

Chiyobaibai

Jd21

roytromb

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 41)

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 40)

Aonizuka

Jd22

Killjoy

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 40)

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 39)

Klayuoho

Jd23

Bjirnikoff

(Sd76TD: 3-4, 39)

(Sd33e: kyujo)

Chijanofuji

Jd24

Nandeanee

(Sd33w: kyujo)

(Sd35e: kyujo)

Mokuseinoisu

Jd25

I am the Yokozuna

(Sd59w: 1-6, 30)

(Sd36e: kyujo)

Yokodano

Jd26

Katoomaru

(Sd37w: kyujo)

(Sd40e: kyujo)

Mitsuanaguma

Jd27

SHiFT

(Sd40w: kyujo)

(Sd41w: kyujo)

Orandayama

Jd28

Tsukareta kaeru

(Sd75w: 2-5, 38)

(Sd42e: kyujo)

Kuroneko

Jd29

PattyP

(Sd42w: kyujo)

(Sd76TD: 2-5, 38)

frankelmedico

Jd30

Cicero

(Sd76TD: 2-5, 38)

(Sd76TD: 2-5, 37)

Maorencze

Jd31

Hokkaido-noo

(Sd76TD: 2-5, 37)

(Sd76TD: 2-5, 33)

yokoshoryu

Jd32

BukuRimufaia

(Sd76TD: 2-5, 33)

(Sd67e: 1-6, 29)

ColdSake

Jd33

Gair

(Sd43e: kyujo)

(Sd43w: kyujo)

OShogun

Jd34

Packamawashi

(Sd45e: kyujo)

(Sd45w: kyujo)

Suwihuto

Jd35

Fatakeisho

(Sd46e: kyujo)

(Sd47e: kyujo)

asamifuji

Jd36

sadako

(Sd48e: kyujo)

(Sd49e: kyujo)

TMF

Jd37

Hagemaru

(Sd50e: kyujo)

(Sd51e: kyujo)

Obi-Wahn

Jd38

Hakunoho

(Sd51w: kyujo)

(Sd52e: kyujo)

Whattaboutsumo

Jd39

neerrm

(Sd52w: kyujo)

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 32)

Anneka

Jd40

Chartorenji

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 32)

Tochinothumbs

Jd41

Quuxum Mephitida

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 31)

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 30)

JKase

Jd42

Gekiryuu

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 28)

Demon Taka

Jd43

taylorbee

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 26)

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 25)

NiceHappyGuy

Jd44

Meerkax

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 25)

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 21)

Kohada koheiji

Jd45

Viking_Bench

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 21)

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 20)

Bobby B

Jd46

DiscU

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 20)

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 18)

Crim

Jd47

Maho dowafu

(Sd76TD: 1-6, 18)

(Sd54e: kyujo)

M

Jd48

Nishinami

(Sd54w: kyujo)

(Sd59e: kyujo)

Terunozilla

Jd49

Gherkinyama

(Sd60e: kyujo)

(Sd60w: kyujo)

Rodonsidh

Jd50

FullestJ

(Sd61e: kyujo)

(Sd63w: kyujo)

Megamonster1234

Jd51

Tsunama

(Sd64w: kyujo)

(Sd66e: kyujo)

Daihado

Jd52

Naminoryu

(Sd76TD: 0-7, 13)

(Sd76TD: 0-7, 11)

Taishoryu

Jd53

Tigerboy1966 · June 14

I'm in. New strategy. When in doubt, give the edge AGAINST your favourites to counterweight your own bias.

...and on 29 June I will find that the banzuke committee has been taken over by the Chiyoshoma fan club.

Edited June 17 by Tigerboy1966
wrong date

Kintamayama · June 14

Nein days.

Kintamayama · June 18

5 days.

Tigerboy1966 · June 22

18 hours to go.

I count 256 entries so far.

Kintamayama · June 22

38 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

18 hours to go.

I count 256 entries so far.

Sorry, was busy running..

Kujo · June 22

1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

Sorry, was busy running..

Stay safe.

Reonito · June 22

8 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

18 hours to go.

It's about 27.5 hours by my count now—18 GMT tomorrow, right?

Tigerboy1966 · June 22

11 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

11 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

18 hours to go.

I count 256 entries so far.

Sorry, was busy running..

Yup. I thought you might have other priorities right now which is why I did the update.

Kintamayama · June 22

1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Yup. I thought you might have other priorities right now which is why I did the update.

No, I'm here always, rain or shower.

Kintamayama · June 22

I just changed my entry totally last minute. Is it only me or is this one extra-hard? The top of Maegashira is a real mess?

Suwihuto · June 22

1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

I just changed my entry totally last minute. Is it only me or is this one extra-hard? The top of Maegashira is a real mess?

I was quite happy with my entry. Always a bad sign.

Reonito · June 22

1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

I just changed my entry totally last minute. Is it only me or is this one extra-hard? The top of Maegashira is a real mess?

there are several tricky areas: M4/M5, M7/M8, M11/M12, and the bottom.

Bunbukuchagama · June 22

15 minutes ago, Reonito said:

there are several tricky areas: M4/M5, M7/M8, M11/M12, and the bottom.

That's what we see, but there is often an invisible minefield laid without warning.

Reonito · June 22

47 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

That's what we see, but there is often an invisible minefield laid without warning.

100%

After Ura's placement last time, along with a few of the other recent decisions, little would surprise me.

Tigerboy1966 · June 22

3 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

I just changed my entry totally last minute. Is it only me or is this one extra-hard? The top of Maegashira is a real mess?

I made one bold, but dubious choice which allowed the rest of the top Maegashira ranks to fall into place quite nicely. If I'm wrong, I'm toast. Probably a slice of toast that fell into the gap between the cupboard and the fridge, went very mouldy and stank out the kitchen before being retrieved a month later.

Yarimotsu · June 23

I think Kusano's spot can vary wildly, and I don't have any real insight how they're making that juryo decision. Seems random each time where the strong juryo contender falls in makuuchi. I saw a great opening that only created mild issues below, then found a much lower spot to put him that allowed consistent underdemotions of same-record results across makuuchi. So chances are they put him somewhere in the middle of those spots and just muck up everything.

Andreas21 · June 23

7 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

I think Kusano's spot can vary wildly, and I don't have any real insight how they're making that juryo decision. Seems random each time where the strong juryo contender falls in makuuchi.

The straightforward approach would be just to stack the divisions and treat J1e=M18w (depending on the last Makuuchi rank), right?
But this is not confirmed by history, right?
It looks like some sort of imaginary gap is between the divisions. How large is it? In the worst case for GTB, the gap is not constant but can be adjusted from time to time. Perhaps as an additional variable to improve the congestion of Rikishi in certain areas (and maybe on some ingredients of the tea the committee is drinking).

Is there a separation from the session where division exchanges are decided, and another one where, based on these decisions, the Banzuke is fully set up? Or is it the same session?

Kintamayama · June 23

Interesting that this time there is no talk among us especially about the sanyaku, which is usually a hot subject. Unless it's obvious to everyone except me. Playing the cards close to chest this time?

Yarimotsu · June 23

1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

Interesting that this time there is no talk among us especially about the sanyaku, which is usually a hot subject

I suspect that I've reordered the S1's incorrectly, but not enough precedent to say one way or the other. I'd rather swap them so I did. The rest of it should fall pretty easily, right?

1 hour ago, Andreas21 said:

The straightforward approach would be just to stack the divisions and treat J1e=M18w (depending on the last Makuuchi rank), right?
But this is not confirmed by history, right?

If you look at the history of how high a high J debutant with a good score goes, the variability is massive. Certainly not a single arithmetic conclusion.

1 hour ago, Andreas21 said:

Is there a separation from the session where division exchanges are decided, and another one where, based on these decisions, the Banzuke is fully set up? Or is it the same session?

All the one session afaik.

Reonito · June 23

5 hours ago, Andreas21 said:

The straightforward approach would be just to stack the divisions and treat J1e=M18w (depending on the last Makuuchi rank), right?
But this is not confirmed by history, right?

I don't know if this was done in the past, but it certainly isn't now, except for computing the division exchanges and the rank order of the juryo promotions relative to each other.

5 hours ago, Andreas21 said:

It looks like some sort of imaginary gap is between the divisions. How large is it? In the worst case for GTB, the gap is not constant but can be adjusted from time to time.

The gap is certainly not constant, and the approach changes over time. Right now it seems to be, lean over backwards to give the makuuchi incumbents every possible benefit of the doubt when deciding whether to rank a juryo promotion ahead of them.

5 hours ago, Andreas21 said:

Is there a separation from the session where division exchanges are decided, and another one where, based on these decisions, the Banzuke is fully set up? Or is it the same session?

Pretty sure there's just one banzuke meeting where all of this gets hashed out.

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