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On 30/12/2024 at 14:09, Ryoshishokunin said:

Er.  Wins are worth *two* ranks.

Well, if you count a win as +1 rank and a loss as -1 rank it works out the same and makes a bit more sense.

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1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

Well, if you count a win as +1 rank and a loss as -1 rank it works out the same and makes a bit more sense.

Yeah but then I have to do twice as much math :)

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35 minutes ago, Ryoshishokunin said:

Yeah but then I have to do twice as much math :)

When comparing two wrestlers, it makes sense to count an extra win as making up for two ranks.

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A win is NOT worth 2 ranks. I have no idea where this came from, but that is just not how it works. 

In general, they take your wins minus your losses and sort everyone up or down from there. Then because they will have a lot of people landing on the same spot, they sort things out in committee. What each committee feels is the best way to do this changes all the time. 2 ranks might be a rule of thumb that works many times, but it is far from a hard and fast rule. Back in the day when all we had was BBS's and usenet groups to talk about sumo shit like this would come up. Where people would come up with a rule and declare it to be true. But as the decades have proven over and over, there are no hard and fast rules. Not even KK must go up and MK must go down. 

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I'm not entirely sure what you're actually objecting to. Calculating wins minus losses and counting each extra win as worth two ranks are the same thing.

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9 hours ago, Morningstar said:

... because they will have a lot of people landing on the same spot, they sort things out in committee. What each committee feels is the best way to do this changes all the time ... there are no hard and fast rules. Not even KK must go up and MK must go down. 

And isn't that a good thing.

Otherwise GTB wouldn't exist: it would be Calculate The Banzuke, and the winner would be the 1st to post the correct answer to an over-long maths test.

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