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And the second sekitori intai of the day (and third of the tournament)...Aoiyama is ending his 15-year career and becomes Iwatomo-oyakata.

 

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Probably stupid question: With these two intai announcements (probably) made before the next banzuke is done, is it safe to assume that another basho ranked at Makushita wouldn't grant any monetary benefits?

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1 hour ago, sahaven111 said:

He went in, and now goes out, with Myogiryu...

I rediscovered ozumo just after Aki 2015, so even though I missed both these rikishi at their peak, I've still had 9 years of entertainment from them.

Good luck to both in their new roles.

What will their long sekitori tenures, mainly in makuuchi, entitle them to as oyakata; e.g. will they be able to branch out with their own heya?

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39 minutes ago, RabidJohn said:

What will their long sekitori tenures, mainly in makuuchi, entitle them to as oyakata; e.g. will they be able to branch out with their own heya?

They've both had 71 basho in Makuuchi so they can open their own stables

 

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Sakaigawa is 62 - so less than three years away from mandatory retirement age.  

The new Furiwake could be a successor to the heya, if he does not think Sekinoto (moto-Iwakiyama) or Yamashina (moto-Toyohibiki) are worthy to inherit the stable.  Of course, he could let Furiwake branch out, since he has enough top division basho to do it - and that would ensure Sekinoto or Yamashina could have their own stable.  And maybe moto-Hochiyama could get his own kabu.

 

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5 minutes ago, Muhomatsu said:

Sakaigawa is 62 - so less than three years away from mandatory retirement age.  

The new Furiwake could be a successor to the heya, if he does not think Sekinoto (moto-Iwakiyama) or Yamashina (moto-Toyohibiki) are worthy to inherit the stable.  Of course, he could let Furiwake branch out, since he has enough top division basho to do it - and that would ensure Sekinoto or Yamashina could have their own stable.  And maybe moto-Hochiyama could get his own kabu.

 

I'm guessing those two are not mutually exclusive? As in Furiwake branches out soon, then Sakaigawa-beya is absorbed into Furiwake upon the incumbent's retirement, Furiwake gets renamed Sakaigawa as now-ex-Myogiryu inherits the kabu, the legacy goes on.

My memory's a bit hazy when it gets to heya transfers but I'm fairly certain such a situation has happened in the last few years. Might've been Oshima.

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It was time for Aoiyama and at least he can stay with the kyokai, something that most European rikishi haven't wanted or been able to. In fact I'm quite amazed Aoiyama managed to get a kabu. Perhaps his fellow Bulgarian Naruto gave him a few tips. 

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Yes - there are a few transfers like that where the "legacy" lives on under a new name:

Think:  Irumagawa to Ikazuchi

The old Naruto to Tagonoura, on the death of the former Naruto and the weird succession crisis with the stock certificate.

Hanaregoma was Nishonoseki was Matsugane.

Tokiwayama was Chiganoura.

Nishonoseki was Araiso briefly.

Oshima did close - was merged to Tomozuna - and then re-emerged independent after being shuttered for years.

Even Taiho to Otake is like this - with an ichidai toshiyori twist.

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Thus ends the Bulgarian Wave, a force so powerful that 67% of them reached San'yaku.:-)

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1 hour ago, Reonito said:

Aoiyama's 164 hatakikomi victories are second all-time (or should this be in Trivia Bits?)

Let's give Oshoma some time to reach them... he managed six just in this tournament.

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2 minutes ago, Seregost said:

Let's give Oshoma some time to reach them... he managed six just in this tournament.

They only met once, and Aoiyama won by ... Oshidashi?

Imagine a world where ex-Aoiyama goes to coach at fellow-Bulgarian Naruto's stable and turns Oshoma into the Unstoppable Hatakikomi Machine!

[No, let's not]

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1 minute ago, Yamanashi said:

They only met once, and Aoiyama won by ... Oshidashi?

Imagine a world where ex-Aoiyama goes to coach at fellow-Bulgarian Naruto's stable and turns Oshoma into the Unstoppable Hatakikomi Machine!

[No, let's not]

I find cool when a wrestler has a "signature" kimarite, like Midorifuji's katasukashi or even Akua's kakenage. But certainly, hatakikomi is not a technique I like to see often. This pushers/hatakikomers like Tohakuryu or Abi look quite boring to me.

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His moobs will be missed. Or not, depending on one's aesthetic sense. 

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9 minutes ago, Seregost said:

I find cool when a wrestler has a "signature" kimarite, like Midorifuji's katasukashi or even Akua's kakenage. But certainly, hatakikomi is not a technique I like to see often. This pushers/hatakikomers like Tohakuryu or Abi look quite boring to me.

Aoiyama didn't start out that way; it's because he had busted wheels.  Before his knee injuries ruined his mobility he was more of a belt guy; career-wise he only won by yorikiri at 1/3 the typical rate, but more than half of those wins were in the first third of his career.  Meanwhile:

Hatakikomi, by five-year periods

2009-2014  39

2015-2019  57

2020-2024  67

and similarly for the other pulling techniques.

Over the last several years an Aoiyama match had a binary outcome:

1) Big shove and neck pull-down successful -- hatakikomi win

2) Big shove and neck pull-down unsuccessful -- loss by yorikiri or oshidashi.

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8 minutes ago, dingo said:

His moobs will be missed. Or not, depending on one's aesthetic sense. 

Let that be a warning to Kotozakura (I can say no more).(Whistling...)

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His pics today are explicitly focussing on what now will be covered

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2 hours ago, dingo said:

His moobs will be missed. Or not, depending on one's aesthetic sense. 

I wasn't going to mention them, but back when I only knew 'yama' meant mountain, I wondered if 'aoi' was Japanese for moobs.

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Can't say I enjoyed his style and I thought he seemed a grump at times on the dohyo, though I do respect his long run of sekitorihood, and in particular from 2013 to 2017 when he never MK'd below M5.

Not someone you would have suspected of once preferring yotsu sumo, given that for much of his career he would suddenly shrink to 50kg when someone got a hold of him.

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I never was a fan of Aoiyama, but it will be very strange not having him around. The guy was sekitori for over 13 years which is very very impressive. I wish him well in his career as oyakata. 

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5 hours ago, Seregost said:

Let's give Oshoma some time to reach them... he managed six just in this tournament.

If not for his injuries, Tomokaze would have owned this category. 

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Good bye big blue

you were at least deep enough in the yusho race a couple times to get the camera focused on you in the hanamichi 

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