GTB Aki Basho -RESULTS- 206 entries

[Kintamayama 44,349]

Two weeks to go, very short window.  Go!!

It's a game called GTB. I promise you it will be almost as fun as watching show-jumping in the Olympics.

This is a formal invitation to play the "Guess the Banzuke" game!! 25 years, 156 bashos. Please play. It's free this time..

Game rules: Guess the Banzuke. Simple. You get two points for a bulls-eye and one point for just getting the rank right. You get no points for waiting for it to happen. Tiebreakers - Most total guesses, then we check the banzuke backwards - getting the lower half right will be important.  The most correct guesses in the last ten places will win the tiebreaker. If still tied, we go up a ranking at a time like a penalty shootout. If still tied, I suggest the player with the most patience. It's up to you to check if you are on the list of entries. It's going to be your fault if you don't notice that your entry went missing in the Internet void. No late entries will be expected or accepted. Those are the rules, and the rules will never be changed. Lately I have become grumpy and hungry.

For rules, standings and revolving doors : http://www.dichne.com/Guess.htm

For the nifty entry form, which will hopefully continue to do what it's intended to do : http://sumodb.sumoga...b/GTBEntry.aspx

For Chiyotasuke's helper: https://chiyotasuke.github.io/gtbhelper/

For the "new" archives: http://sumodb.sumoga...gtbarchive.aspx

See if you are on the entry list: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBEntryList.aspx

Deadline: Monday, August 19th, 2024  at 18:00 GMT ("Go, massive Terunofuji!!"!") - PLEASE NOTE-THIS IS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE OFFICIAL BANZUKE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Special thanks to showrunners Andoreasu, Wizard Doitsuyama for everything else, and go watch "Sanctuary" on Netflix..

 

Edited August 25 by Kintamayama

[Reonito 1,335]

7 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

For Chiyotasuke's helper: https://chiyotasuke.github.io/gtbhelper/

The link isn't working for me. I remember @Chiyotasuke had an issue with his github page and set up an alternative for July, but I don't remember where that alternative is...

[Asashosakari 18,784]

On 26/05/2024 at 12:04, Chiyotasuke said:

The GTB helper is now being deployed on this domain https://gtbhelper.vercel.app/ due to my account getting hacked

 

[Kachikoshi 21]

I’ve been playing GTB under the name “Midoriyama.” Is it possible to change it to Kachikoshi to match my forum name (+ my name in all other games)?

[Wakawakawaka 136]

Just submit your entry with your usual e-mail, but type in the new shikona. That's what I did anyways. 

[Kintamayama 44,349]

1 hour ago, Kachikoshi said:

I’ve been playing GTB under the name “Midoriyama.” Is it possible to change it to Kachikoshi to match my forum name (+ my name in all other games)?

Sure-will let Andoreasu know. Are you a ninja?

[Sumo Spiffy 535]

21 hours ago, Reonito said:

The link isn't working for me. I remember @Chiyotasuke had an issue with his github page and set up an alternative for July, but I don't remember where that alternative is...

It should re-route to the vercel link, but it's just as good to go straight to the vercel site.

[Gurowake 3,915]

Too bad Hiradoumi didn't get an 11th win so we could have a good excuse to use the 3rd row of Sekiwake on the entry form.

Be sure not to confuse Shimanoumi with Shonannoumi.  The former had a KK again and thus will be on the list of eligible Maegashira.  Shimazuumi also had a KK, but I think his name is different enough.

Edited August 7 by Gurowake

[Gurowake 3,915]

On 05/08/2024 at 09:44, Kintamayama said:

very short window.

This should be the shortest time generally possible between basho, with Nagoya starting on the 14th and Aki on the 8th, which are on the extreme ends of the normally possible days to start.

[Tigerboy1966 1,376]

3 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Be sure not to confuse Shimanoumi with Shonannoumi.

See also Shimazuumi.

And looking to the future, last time's jonokuchi winner was Shimizuumi.

At this point a more educated forum member than me ought to chime in with "but the kanji are completely different".

Edited August 7 by Tigerboy1966
clarify

[Jakusotsu 5,806]

5 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

At this point a more educated forum member than me ought to chime in with "but the kanji are completely different".

Always surprising to me that Shimanoumi is no ordinary Shima.

[Kachikoshi 21]

On 05/08/2024 at 22:27, Kintamayama said:

Sure-will let Andoreasu know. Are you a ninja?

No, but I bear many similarities to Morimoto Yusuke, the main difference being athleticism.

[Gurowake 3,915]

9 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Always surprising to me that Shimanoumi is no ordinary Shima.

It would kind of a lame name if it were, don't you think?

All the Shimanoumi in existence in the DB have had the Shima kanji from the city name, none with the island kanji.  (One of them had the kanji "no" instead of katakana like the others, but all have had the sea kanji for "umi".)  http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shikona=shimanoumi&l=j

[Gurowake 3,915]

18 hours ago, Gurowake said:

This should be the shortest time generally possible between basho, with Nagoya starting on the 14th and Aki on the 8th, which are on the extreme ends of the normally possible days to start.

To expand on this:

In the month of a basho and the month after it, there can be between 59 and 62 days.  The difference in when the second Sunday falls in the following month compared to the previous month can be up to 6.  However, the number of days between the start of two basho must be a multiple of 7.  The smallest number you can get from starting from 59 to 62 and subtracting up to 6 is 53, and the next largest multiple of 7 is 56.  This could happen any number of ways, but 56 is the smallest number of days between basho starts.

Edited August 7 by Gurowake

[Jakusotsu 5,806]

8 hours ago, Gurowake said:

All the Shimanoumi in existence in the DB have had the Shima kanji from the city name, none with the island kanji.  (One of them had the kanji "no" instead of katakana like the others, but all have had the sea kanji for "umi".)  http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shikona=shimanoumi&l=j

You made it look like there's an army of Shimanoumis when in fact there are only three (and one of them is negligible).

[Kotononami 86]

 

In these times when the number of entries has rarely been so high, it may be important to remember this part of the rules.

Important - Only One (1) final entry per player 
and one entry per e-mail address!! 
Multiple entries, when verified, 
will disqualify all entries.

Edited August 8 by Kotononami

[Kintamayama 44,349]

1 hour ago, Kotononami said:

 

In these times when the number of entries has rarely been so high, it may be important to remember this part of the rules.

Important - Only One (1) final entry per player 
and one entry per e-mail address!! 
Multiple entries, when verified, 
will disqualify all entries.

Indeed, and in the past we have found the culprits and banished them to some desert or other.

[Gurowake 3,915]

10 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

You made it look like there's an army of Shimanoumis when in fact there are only three (and one of them is negligible).

The point is that the current sekitori is not the only one to have that exact "shima" in kanji, and if you ignore what version of the "no" particle they use, all 4 were exactly the same.  If it was thought that the somewhat trite "Sea of Islands" was a reasonable shikona, someone might have used it by now; certainly there's no dearth of shikona using each element.  So it's not a huge surprise that his kanji for "Shima" is different given that no one else has ever had what I'm going to describe as the "lame version" that you expected instead of "Shima-city Sea" that they've all been.

Edited August 8 by Gurowake

[Asojima 2,870]

48 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

The point is that the current sekitori is not the only one to have that exact "shima" in kanji, and if you ignore what version of the "no" particle they use, all 4 were exactly the same.  If it was thought that the somewhat trite "Sea of Islands" was a reasonable shikona, someone might have used it by now; certainly there's no dearth of shikona using each element.  So it's not a huge surprise that his kanji for "Shima" is different given that no one else has ever had what I'm going to describe as the "lame version" that you expected instead of "Shima-city Sea" that they've all been.

Umi means sea, but it is very commonly added to the end of shikona that begin with a placename or personal name, probably as a euphonic additive.  It usually does not carry  along its intrinsic meaning.

[Kintamayama 44,349]

Two and a half days to go and you still haven't entered..

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBEntry.aspx

[chishafuwaku 469]

8 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Two and a half days to go and you still haven't entered..

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBEntry.aspx

Isn't the last day to enter August 19th, tomorrow?

[Kintamayama 44,349]

3 hours ago, chishafuwaku said:

Isn't the last day to enter August 19th, tomorrow?

Yes, 24 hours to go.

[Wamahada 49]

[Asashosakari 18,784]

Uncertain of everything here.

Terunofuji (Ye 12-3 Y)    Y    ---
Kotozakura (O1e 10-5)     O    Hoshoryu (O1w 9-4-2)
Onosato (S1w 9-6)         S1   Abi (S1e 8-7)
Kirishima (S2e 8-7)       S2   Takakeisho (O2w 5-10)
Hiradoumi (Kw 10-5)       K    Daieisho (Ke 8-7)

Takanosho (M6e 12-3 D)    M1   Tobizaru (M4e 9-6)
Atamifuji (M1w 7-8)       M2   Oho (M6w 9-6) 
Mitakeumi (M2w 7-8)       M3   Shodai (M10e 10-5)
Wakamotoharu (M2e 6-9)    M4   Kotoshoho (M7e 8-7)
Wakatakakage (M14e 11-4)  M5   Shonannoumi (M5w 7-8)
Churanoumi (M12w 10-5)    M6   Ura (M4w 6-9)
Meisei (M1e 4-11)         M7   Gonoyama (M3w 5-10)
Endo (M14w 10-5)          M8   Midorifuji (M10w 8-7)
Ichiyamamoto (M11e 8-7)   M9   Oshoma (M9e 7-8)
Tamawashi (M9w 7-8)       M10  Roga (M15w 9-6)
Sadanoumi (M7w 5-10)      M11  Kagayaki (M16e 9-6)
Bushozan (M16w 8-7)       M12  Kinbozan (M8w 4-11)
Onokatsu (J1w 9-6)        M13  Shirokuma (J8e 12-3)
Hokutofuji (M13e 6-9)     M14  Nishikigi (M11w 5-10)
Ryuden (M8e 3-12)         M15  Takayasu (M3e 0-2-13)
Takarafuji (M13w 5-10)    M16  Onosho (M5e 0-4-11)
Kitanowaka (J3e 8-7)      M17  ---

[Sumo Spiffy 535]

1 minute ago, Asashosakari said:

Uncertain of everything here.

Terunofuji (Ye 12-3 Y)    Y    ---
Kotozakura (O1e 10-5)     O    Hoshoryu (O1w 9-4-2)
Onosato (S1w 9-6)         S1   Abi (S1e 8-7)
Kirishima (S2e 8-7)       S2   Takakeisho (O2w 5-10)
Hiradoumi (Kw 10-5)       K    Daieisho (Ke 8-7)

Takanosho (M6e 12-3 D)    M1   Tobizaru (M4e 9-6)
Atamifuji (M1w 7-8)       M2   Oho (M6w 9-6) 
Mitakeumi (M2w 7-8)       M3   Shodai (M10e 10-5)
Wakamotoharu (M2e 6-9)    M4   Kotoshoho (M7e 8-7)
Wakatakakage (M14e 11-4)  M5   Shonannoumi (M5w 7-8)
Churanoumi (M12w 10-5)    M6   Ura (M4w 6-9)
Meisei (M1e 4-11)         M7   Gonoyama (M3w 5-10)
Endo (M14w 10-5)          M8   Midorifuji (M10w 8-7)
Ichiyamamoto (M11e 8-7)   M9   Oshoma (M9e 7-8)
Tamawashi (M9w 7-8)       M10  Roga (M15w 9-6)
Sadanoumi (M7w 5-10)      M11  Kagayaki (M16e 9-6)
Bushozan (M16w 8-7)       M12  Kinbozan (M8w 4-11)
Onokatsu (J1w 9-6)        M13  Shirokuma (J8e 12-3)
Hokutofuji (M13e 6-9)     M14  Nishikigi (M11w 5-10)
Ryuden (M8e 3-12)         M15  Takayasu (M3e 0-2-13)
Takarafuji (M13w 5-10)    M16  Onosho (M5e 0-4-11)
Kitanowaka (J3e 8-7)      M17  ---

We're mirrored except for the record vs. rank ties near the top (Mitakeumi/Oho, Wakamotoharu/Shodai, Ura/Churanoumi). If anything, it makes me that much more convinced they're going to do something utterly batshit somewhere in here.