Sumo Spiffy 523 Posted July 22 16 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: I don't quite get it. On the one hand we have K1e vs. M1w and K1w vs. M2e, and on the other hand M4e vs. M7e and M4w vs. M6w when both could have gone either way. I guess @Sumo Spiffy and @Bunbukuchagama are equally puzzled. I see it now. I had Hoshoryu/Abi and just blanked on the possibility of Takakeisho/Abi. I spun through a ton of different intra-sanyaku lineups and didn't attach that one to the two obvious ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,772 Posted July 22 (edited) Doesn't help with my case though... Edit: to make it more clear: why does Ura get Oho instead of Takanosho when the Komusubi matches are treated differently? Edited July 22 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,303 Posted July 22 I got to Oho by following all of the hints that the experts have given, as being the 'normal' choice. My only worry was that records might now be taken into account, which explained why others before me landed on someone else.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,303 Posted July 22 Actually, I made a mistake with my reasoning yesterday! - So lucked out on the right answer.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,772 Posted July 22 Time for shimodahito to shine: Day 11 - Meisei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,471 Posted July 22 5 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Doesn't help with my case though... Edit: to make it more clear: why does Ura get Oho instead of Takanosho when the Komusubi matches are treated differently? I'll reiterate my points 2 and 3 above. 2. Paying attention to day, work out what method you need to use to assign the sanyaku aites 3. Paying attention to day, work out the maegashira matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,471 Posted July 22 6 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said: I see it now. I had Hoshoryu/Abi and just blanked on the possibility of Takakeisho/Abi. I spun through a ton of different intra-sanyaku lineups and didn't attach that one to the two obvious ones. Rule 1) Get the intra-sanyaku matches correct. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,889 Posted July 22 (edited) 11 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: I don't quite get it. I'll admit that I don't understand it in the same sense that I (and the physics community in general) don't understand why like charges repel and opposite charges attract. But in both cases I understand how they work, even if I don't know why beyond "that's just how it works". Edited July 22 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 523 Posted July 22 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Doesn't help with my case though... Edit: to make it more clear: why does Ura get Oho instead of Takanosho when the Komusubi matches are treated differently? The even day rule strikes again! Edit: In order to not mislead, I should mention that with the three intra-sanyaku matchups I landed on—Teru/Kiri, Koto/Onosato, and Hoshoryu/Abi—that would have put Ura against Shonannoumi. But I thought it was possible they could mess with any pairing other than Teru/Kiri, and if that left Hoshoryu out, he'd get Shonannoumi. I also thought they might only do two intra-sanyaku matchups, rather than try to fit everything in. So, I took Takanosho as a safety pick, and it never crossed my mind that Takakeisho would fight a sanyaku (leaving Gonoyama open) without Hoshoryu also having one of those matches as well. If I'd assumed they would have three, it was just a matter of which three, maybe I'd have gotten there. Edited July 22 by Sumo Spiffy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 523 Posted July 22 I shall also buy a ticket for shimo's train. 11. Meisei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,314 Posted July 22 32 minutes ago, Gurowake said: I'll admit that I don't understand it in the same sense that I (and the physics community in general) don't understand why like charges repel and opposite charges attract. But in both cases I understand how they work, even if I don't know why beyond "that's just how it works". "In mathematics you don't understand things. You just get used to them." -John Von Neumann 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,772 Posted July 22 43 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said: The even day rule strikes again! Sure, but I have to assume it works differently for Sanyaku and Maegashira, and unlike Sakura and Gurowake, I won't have a clue next time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 823 Posted July 22 I beelieve it is: Day 11 - Shonannoumi (or I am too old for the game) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,772 Posted July 23 Yellow card for @Athenayama for droning! Gurowake (YOe) 9-2 Sumo Spiffy (S1w) 8-3 Jakusotsu (S1e) 7-4 Bunbukuchagama (S2e) 7-4 Jejima (M1e) 7-4 Profomisakari (S2w) 6-4-1 Hakuhonofan (M1w) 6-4-1 Fashiriteta (M2e) 5-5-1 WAKATAKE (M2w) 3-6-2 shimodahito (M3w) 3-8 Athenayama (M3e) 1-9-1 rokudenashi (M4e) 0-0-11 The Kyokai (M4w) 0-11 Reonito (YOw) kyujo Oshirokita (K1e) kosho Ryoshishokunin (K1w) kosho Ura's aites: 1. Onosho, 2. Gonoyama, 3. Tobizaru, 4. Atamifuji, 5. Takakeisho, 6. Hoshoryu, 7. Terunofuji, 8. Kotozakura, 9. Abi, 10. Oho, 11. Meisei Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 944 Posted July 23 Damn and I was on a winning streak of 9 .... Day 12 : Mitakeumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,772 Posted July 23 Looking at the forum's calendar, guessing Meisei should have been very easy since it's his birthday on day 11. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,772 Posted July 23 I lack of better ideas . . . Day 12 - Shonannoumi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,624 Posted July 23 (edited) 12 Tamawashi Edited July 23 by WAKATAKE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites