Sumo Spiffy 522 Posted July 17 50 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Now my flabber is gasted - why does the M2 bout happen before the M4 bout? Mitakeumi would have been my choice for Takakeisho. Mitakeumi was always going to Koto. If they shuffled things to keep Takakeisho in against the higher maegashira for now (which was the thing I struggled with—would they maintain the order or mix it up because of Takayasu's absence?), it would have been against Waka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,739 Posted July 17 6 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said: Mitakeumi was always going to Koto. If they shuffled things to keep Takakeisho in against the higher maegashira for now (which was the thing I struggled with—would they maintain the order or mix it up because of Takayasu's absence?), it would have been against Waka. I don't quite follow. WMH was always going to Hoshoryu as the last Ozeki on the Torikumi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 522 Posted July 17 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: I don't quite follow. WMH was always going to Hoshoryu as the last Ozeki on the Torikumi. Sure, as long as they followed the normal order. But if they were going to mix it up, they'd switch Hoshoryu's opponent before they switched Koto's, right? 6. Hoshoryu Edited July 17 by Sumo Spiffy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,739 Posted July 17 Now I really don't follow anymore . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 675 Posted July 17 5 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said: I gave Yuria the options and let her choose for me. I don't know who Yuria is, but you should listen to her more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,462 Posted July 17 5 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Now I really don't follow anymore . . . Basically Ura was the first available maegashira opponent that Takakeisho hadn't faced. When I say available, I mean that some maegashira like Mkitakeumi had already been assigned to other rikishi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,462 Posted July 17 I'm trying not to regret not playing as I would be 5-0 at the moment. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,739 Posted July 17 1 hour ago, Sakura said: I mean that some maegashira like Mitakeumi had already been assigned to other rikishi. And that's exactly what I don't get, but that's just me, of course... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Profomisakari 820 Posted July 17 This is a day for me to go with the train: Day 6 - Hoshoryu Excuse me please! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,300 Posted July 17 6. Hoshoryu - choo-choo! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 522 Posted July 17 10 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said: I don't know who Yuria is, but you should listen to her more often. Partner/channel artist. She's not heavy into sumo but enjoys the dramatic moments. (And drawing kittens.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 522 Posted July 17 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: And that's exactly what I don't get, but that's just me, of course... Train's running, so this seems like a safe day to show how I lay things out (everyone's probably got a bit of a different style, of course): https://imgur.com/a/OrVSOpc Going into the day 5 schedule, there were three maegashira higher ranked than Ura that Takakeisho hadn't fought: Gonoyama, Mitakeumi, and Wakamotoharu. The only way Takakeisho would get Ura is if the three higher-ranked sanyaku took exactly those three opponents. But that's what happened. Gonoyama was next for Teru, Mitakeumi was next for Koto, and Waka was next for Nephew. The fact Keisho still had all those maegashira holes in his schedule above Ura no longer mattered. The alternative I had considered was this:Â https://imgur.com/Y9NW3aR In this version, in order to keep Takakeisho facing higher-ranked maegashira, the committee puts their thumb on the scale and drops Hoshoryu down to face Tobi so Keisho can fight Waka. I was genuinely torn because, if ever there was a time for them to mess with the setup, this might be it. But they didn't. Edit: Well, both of them are on the same page. Easier to compare, I suppose. Edited July 17 by Sumo Spiffy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,739 Posted July 17 My line of thought: last Ozeki of the day (Hoshoryu) gets the highest ranked Maegashira available --> Wakamotoharu (exactly what happened) middle Ozeki of the day (Takakeisho) gets the next highest ranked Maegashira available -->Â Mitakeumi (didn't happen) first Ozeki of the day (Kotozakura) gets the next highest ranked Maegashira available -->Â Tobizaru (since Gonoyama was for the Yokozuna) Obviously that's not how it works, but I still don't see why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,874 Posted July 17 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: My line of thought: last Ozeki of the day (Hoshoryu) gets the highest ranked Maegashira available --> Wakamotoharu (exactly what happened) middle Ozeki of the day (Takakeisho) gets the next highest ranked Maegashira available --> Mitakeumi (didn't happen) first Ozeki of the day (Kotozakura) gets the next highest ranked Maegashira available --> Tobizaru (since Gonoyama was for the Yokozuna) Obviously that's not how it works, but I still don't see why.  It sometimes works like that, but not most of the time. I'm not divulging any more information though about when to use that method. Edited July 17 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,296 Posted July 17 15 minutes ago, Gurowake said: It sometimes works like that, but not most of the time. I'm not divulging any more information though about when to use that method. Yeah, when it's torikumi order vs banzuke order is a key nuance of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,462 Posted July 18 5 hours ago, Reonito said: Yeah, when it's torikumi order vs banzuke order is a key nuance of the game. Now that I'm retired, I want to tell people what the solution is, but I think some players wouldn't want that. Anyway Get the intra-sanyaku bouts right Paying attention to the day, work out what method of assigning maegashira rikishi to be aites for the sanyaku you need to use Paying attention to the day, assign all remaining Makuuchi bouts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,739 Posted July 18 4 hours ago, Sakura said: Paying attention to the day, work out what method of assigning maegashira rikishi to be aites for the sanyaku you need to use That's obviously the part I still need to work on. Gurowake (YOe) 5-1 Sumo Spiffy (S1w) 5-1 Jakusotsu (S1e) 4-2 Bunbukuchagama (S2e) 4-2 Jejima (M1e) 4-2 Profomisakari (S2w) 3-2-1 Hakuhonofan (M1w) 2-4 Fashiriteta (M2e) 2-3-1 WAKATAKE (M2w) 2-4 shimodahito (M3w) 2-4 Athenayama (M3e) 1-5 rokudenashi (M4e) 0-0-6 The Kyokai (M4w) 0-6 Reonito (YOw) kyujo Oshirokita (K1e) kosho Ryoshishokunin (K1w) kosho Ura's aites: 1. Onosho, 2. Gonoyama, 3. Tobizaru, 4. Atamifuji, 5. Takakeisho, 6. Hoshoryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
