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18 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

He was holding his chest so maybe a pectoral?

Looked like an abdominal, but with Gentlemen of Advanced Size such as Takayasu it's sometimes hard to tell.

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Enho lost the comebackbout in jonokuchi 

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8 hours ago, Ripe said:

Shouldn't the record be 95y9m from 2021 Kyushu Hanakaze (51y5m) vs Fujinokaze (44y4m) bout?

I guess the Sponichi writer meant "at a Nagoya-basho" and forgot to point it out - and to mention the all time record, only that for Nagoya

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I'm delighted that Shonosuke is doing the kaobure each day so far and Abema shows it in full - he also was flawless at the dohyo matsuri, his last in Nagoya and a special one for Nagoya: basho promoter Chunichi shimbun apparently wants to show high quality, the dohyo matsuri video is way better than any the NSK provided - what was missing are (Japanese) subtitles for his chanting

Shonosuke at the end of his career gambarizes, maybe he'll get through the basho without sashi-chigae - the next basho is his last basho

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With the shisho chief shimpan, I fully expected Onokatsu to get robbed and Kagayaki named the winner, but Takadagawa is not Sadogatake - and the slomo showed that there was no doubt. First kensho for Choijil in his first makuuchi appearance - I expect him to be in sanyaku next year

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Parades should be done only directly after and not before the basho

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I woke up around 4 am to go to the bathroom and I grabbed my phone because I knew some of the lower division matches would be going on and practically the first one I saw was Enho's comeback match. Went back to bed in a bad mood.

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Enho unfortunately doesn’t yet look to hot.

Onokatsu continues his speed run up the banzuke. 
 

The 3 big loosers of last tournament: Asanoyama, Wakamotoharu and Kirishima waste no time on coming back to their lost positions, fingers crossed.

Teru won with the person he last lost to in a tournament he finished. Both Hiradoumi and Meisei were big tests for him, as this type of quick and unpredictable of their sumo did cause him troubles lately, in my opinion he passed them. Tomorrow he fights Wakamotoharu, who is also an uncomfortable opponent for him, after that we can really see what type of Yokozuna do we have in this tournament - a part time symbolic character, or a force to be reckoned with and a tournament favorite.

 

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11 hours ago, Reonito said:

Not sure it's a question of "falling for it" as much as when someone that tall and strong grabs you by the back of the neck and yanks, there's not a lot you can do.

Right, but it's not some kind of unavoidable supermove. Rikishi keep running into the pulldown, even though they must know it's probably coming. 

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Much better from everyone I was intending to call out yesterday. All round a great day of sumo. 

Gonoyama found the wrong end of one of Ura's favourite tricks. Impressive to turn it around there, of course.

Chiyosakae gave perhaps the most forceful-looking slapdown I've seen in Juryo.

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16 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

Chiyosakae gave perhaps the most forceful-looking slapdown I've seen in Juryo.

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I'd never guessed that the four last encounters between Shimanoumi and Tsurugisho have all been in Makuuchi.

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The second day of Wakatakakage's return to makuuchi went much better. He got a good grip and outmuscled Rouga, exactly what he's used to. Return to the joi seems just a question of time.

After the extremely hesitant tachiai I thought Endo would lose against Takarafuji, but he smartly outmaneuvered the neckless one and got his first win. Not convinced this kind of sumo, especially with that tachiai is enough to stay in Makuuchi but we'll see.

Hokutofuji did much better today, but Asanoyama is just too good for his level. But today's bout makes me think they'll both finish the basho with a decent score. Actually, Asanoyama might be in for the yusho at this rank, as he's getting some nice warm up bouts against lower ranked rikishi to get something like a 8-0 start before inevitably being moved up against stronger rikishi. 

Nishikigi's misfortune continues. He doesn't seem able to get his sumo going, and at M11 he won't get to face Terunofuji for another kinboshi either. 

Midorifuji almost got Tamawashi at the edge with a nice throw attempt, but Tamawashi's momentum and weight didn't allow him to finish it. 

Sadanoumi did impressive power sumo against Kinbozan who's not exactly a lightweight. Great basho start for the veteran. 

What happened with Oho? Soft yet effective tachiai, moved Shonannoumi back well yet after a few seconds just lost power and was sent out. Weird yo-yo bout. 

Excellent bout and tactics by Ura, slipping out of Gonoyama's grasp until he got a super low inside grip which Gonoyama simply couldn't counter. Ura seems to be on a pretty good shape this basho so hopefully he'll get a kachikoshi. 

Mitakeumi did a diametrically opposite tachiai compared to yesterday and the result was obvious. Easy win for Kirishima. 

Despite being seriously determined not to repeat yesterday's disaster Onosato did an excellent tachiai but that amounted to nothing as he was unable to exert his usual power on Wakamotoharu at the tawara. I'm speculating two reasons - first Wakamotoharu is in better shape this basho than usual and second, lots of celebratory sake is still coursing through Onosato's body :) oh and Onosato also did a little pull at the tawara which didn't help. 

Atamifuji made Kotozakura work hard and almost won the bout, but Kotozakura got that wonderful quick mawashi grip to halt his backward movement, pivot and turn the tables on Atamifuji. Amazing reaction by the ozeki. 

Takakeisho went in head first and although he couldn't finish off Daieisho at the dohyo edge, that pulldown was visible miles ahead. Wonder how much this bout cost Takakeisho in the long term.

Hiradoumi gave his all against Hoshoryu but I don't think he actually had much of a plan besides blasting off 120%. Hoshoryu stayed a little bit calmer and exploited the openings well. 

Terunofuji was actually convincing today! However Meisei is not the greatest test, though I'm beginning to think my prediction of max 5 days for the yokozuna might be wrong. 

Some juryo thoughts too:

Hakuoho was made to look average, Nabatame below that vs Kayo and Aoiyama his usual recent self on last legs if even that. Shishi on the other hand got a good win with a quick pushout and Myogiryu is demolishing juryo, at least until his body holds out. 

 

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5 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Parades should be done only directly after and not before the basho

I guess Nishonoseki oyakata doesn't have enough parade experience... 

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10 minutes ago, dingo said:

Terunofuji was actually convincing today! However Meisei is not the greatest test, though I'm beginning to think my prediction of max 5 days for the yokozuna might be wrong. 

In terms of it being a test I think it was actually a good matchup. He had a tendency to loose to him even when he was not injured. Although I do have behind my head the Chris Sumo-esce conspiracy theory that Teru might be dropping those gold stars so his buddy can get a pay rise.

Anyway he faces tomorrow Wakamotoharu, it will be a tough match, there is bad blood between them, it can go either way.

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Every athlete who skyrockets to a high level can fall into a trap where something goes wrong and they lose some confidence. I just didn't expect Onosato to be one of them. Against Mitakeumi, his whole expression was "I can't believe I got Hiradoumi'd again". And, OK, fine, maybe that's a tactic he has to work on defending. But falling back into a pulldown attempt against Waka as soon as he got some resistance at the rope? 

I'm sure he'll figure it out. I'm just curious when.

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14 hours ago, Gernobono said:

Enho lost the comebackbout in jonokuchi 

Just seen the bout. He didn't even get out-muscled, just out-manouvered

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7 hours ago, dingo said:

Right, but it's not some kind of unavoidable supermove. Rikishi keep running into the pulldown, even though they must know it's probably coming. 

I remember March 2019 when Ichinojo went 14-1 by suddenly using his size to turn himself into a hatakikomi machine.

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I hate to say it, but I think Takayasu should start thinking about retiring. He's 34 and has been dealing with injuries regularly. It's uncertain where his career can go from here.

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4 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

Every athlete who skyrockets to a high level can fall into a trap where something goes wrong and they lose some confidence. I just didn't expect Onosato to be one of them. Against Mitakeumi, his whole expression was "I can't believe I got Hiradoumi'd again". And, OK, fine, maybe that's a tactic he has to work on defending. But falling back into a pulldown attempt against Waka as soon as he got some resistance at the rope? 

I'm sure he'll figure it out. I'm just curious when.

WMH is a quality opponent. Mitakeumi? He was still asleep against him, I guess.

 

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2 hours ago, Godango said:

I hate to say it, but I think Takayasu should start thinking about retiring. He's 34 and has been dealing with injuries regularly. It's uncertain where his career can go from here.

What else is new?

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3 hours ago, Godango said:

I hate to say it, but I think Takayasu should start thinking about retiring. He's 34 and has been dealing with injuries regularly. It's uncertain where his career can go from here.

If Takayasu retires, who will take his place in breaking our hearts with countless near yusho misses? 

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1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:

What else is new?

Me overcoming my denial, anger, bargaining and depression to finally reach acceptance.

My journey over the past five years:

Denial: Sure, he got demoted from ozeki, but that's just because he got hurt. He'll rocket straight back up when he's recovered.

Anger: Tamawashi, you ruined him! And it's frustrating that the nature of sumo doesn't afford him more time to recover.

Bargaining: I know he'll never be yokozuna or probably even ozeki again, but if he can at least just win that one yusho, I'll be happy.

Depression: Ugh, withdrawing again. Of course. This sport can be so disheartening.

Acceptance: Well, at 34 years old and unable to get through a tournament, it's clear his time has passed. I love you, man, but it's time to move on.

~ fin ~

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1 hour ago, Kaninoyama said:

If Takayasu retires, who will take his place in breaking our hearts with countless near yusho misses? 

Kotozakura is right there.

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