Natsu 2024 discussion (results)

[dingo 1,133]

Nowadays the back pain seems to be a chronic issue for Takayasu, sometimes popping out of nowhere. Just have to accept he might not be able to get a yusho anymore, even if still can do great sumo... 

[Octofuji 322]

No monoii for Nishikifuji v Ryuden? It looked like Ryuden's hand touched down at the same time as Nishikifuji 

[Octofuji 322]

6 hours ago, dingo said:

His sole comfort right now is that there's not too many Atamifuji level opponents left. 

Don't know about that, the san'yaku are looking better each day (I guess they couldn't have got worse). His main worry has got to be that there doesn't look too be any Kirishima-level opponents.

Last couple of bashos his joint keiko results haven't been reflected in the basho. It can't just be down to his stamina can it?

[Oskanohana 199]

Tamashoho was robbed today. They didn't even have a look.

Regarding Asanowaka, I see him in much better form, as if his neck or back problems are bothering him less (that's what I've been assuming this last year by his movements). If he makes it back to juryo, can he perform the bow twirling or do they have to find another one from makushita downwards to relieve Satonofuji? Luckily for them, Asanowaka can't get promoted next basho, but if he's on his game, he'll be back in no time. Maybe the responsibility of the bow twirling has healed him miraculously?

Takayasu now can't even try to fool us believers even for a week. Very poor. He has more aches and pains than an old woman. Which brings me neatly to my next point: Kirishima's looking like one. Time to bring back that Kiribayama fella, he was good, get this impostor out of here.

[dingo 1,133]

10 minutes ago, Oskanohana said:

Takayasu now can't even try to fool us believers even for a week. Very poor. He has more aches and pains than an old woman. Which brings me neatly to my next point: Kirishima's looking like one. Time to bring back that Kiribayama fella, he was good, get this impostor out of here.

If Takayasu is like an old woman, what does that make Terunofuji and Takakeisho? Ancient mummies?

[Oskanohana 199]

3 minutes ago, dingo said:

If Takayasu is like an old woman, what does that make Terunofuji and Takakeisho? Ancient mummies?

Terunofuji has the lower half of his body already there, neatly wrapped. As for Takakeisho, he might not be a mummy but he's a curse.

[Yubinhaad 11,506]

1 hour ago, Oskanohana said:

Regarding Asanowaka, [...] If he makes it back to juryo, can he perform the bow twirling or do they have to find another one from makushita downwards to relieve Satonofuji? Luckily for them, Asanowaka can't get promoted next basho, but if he's on his game, he'll be back in no time. Maybe the responsibility of the bow twirling has healed him miraculously?

Not necessarily. Oga began his stint in Makushita and carried on after his promotion to Juryo. Asanowaka himself says he would like to do the same thing, reports Nikkan.

He was called at noon on Day 2 by Wakamatsu-oyakata (the previous Asanowaka), asking if he could step up to perform the ceremony. He had done it in public for the first time during the Haru jungyo, although he started practising in October.

The last time a former sekitori performed the yumitori-shiki was 1991 Nagoya, when Hidenohana had the last of his five basho in the role.

I'm slightly puzzled why they chose a Takasago ichimon rikishi at all, since their highest-ranking representative didn't even start the basho. If it's down to experience, then I would have liked to see Chiyooga get the chance, he's been doing it longer on jungyo.

[Oskanohana 199]

6 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

Not necessarily. Oga began his stint in Makushita and carried on after his promotion to Juryo. Asanowaka himself says he would like to do the same thing, reports Nikkan. 

He was called at noon on Day 2 by Wakamatsu-oyakata (the previous Asanowaka), asking if he could step up to perform the ceremony. He had done it in public for the first time during the Haru jungyo, although he started practising in October. 

The last time a former sekitori performed the yumitori-shiki was 1991 Nagoya, when Hidenohana had the last of his five basho in the role.

I'm slightly puzzled why they chose a Takasago ichimon rikishi at all, since their highest-ranking representative didn't even start the basho. If it's down to experience, then I would have liked to see Chiyooga get the chance, he's been doing it longer on jungyo.

Thanks for all the info.

Is there an upper limit for rank to be able to do the yumitori-shiki? Makuuchi maybe? Is it another one of those unwritten rules that they'll rewrite as they go along?

[Bunbukuchagama 681]

7 hours ago, dingo said:

Just have to accept he might not be able to get a yusho anymore

What took you so long? 

[Jakusotsu 5,761]

2 hours ago, Oskanohana said:

Tamashoho was robbed today. They didn't even have a look.

Care to elaborate?

[Oskanohana 199]

2 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Care to elaborate?

Hidenoumi stepped outside the dohyo before Tamashoho stumbled down.

Excuse the small image, but I'm getting size issues and I'm too lazy to re-render the big picture. If you have access to today's juryo bouts, look it up.

[Oskanohana 199]

Tamashoho was actually awarded the win. I don't know what I saw. Time to stop posting. Goodbye.

Edited May 14 by Oskanohana

[Jakusotsu 5,761]

Just now, Oskanohana said:

Tamashoho was actually awarded the win. I don't know what I saw. Time to stop posting. Goodbye.

Alright, now I *really* want a share of that drink!

[Oskanohana 199]

2 hours ago, Oskanohana said:

Tamashoho was robbed today. They didn't even have a look

I'm sorry, I must have misread a report of a supposed break-in at Kataonami-beya. Here

[dingo 1,133]

45 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

What took you so long? 

I guess I still had some kind of fool's hope that some day he could somehow pull it off. Put the only thing he seems to be pulling these days is his back... 

[Yubinhaad 11,506]

3 hours ago, Oskanohana said:

Thanks for all the info.

Is there an upper limit for rank to be able to do the yumitori-shiki? Makuuchi maybe? Is it another one of those unwritten rules that they'll rewrite as they go along?

 

More likely a practical limit rather than a specific rank, I would say. The higher ranked you are, the later in the schedule you'll be fighting your own bout, leaving less time to cool down, have your oichomage redone etc. And if you should get injured in your bout, there's less time to scramble a substitute performer.

Oiwazan and Otayama each had a few basho as performer while in the double-digit Maegashira ranks in the 1950s, but no others have done it above Juryo if I recall correctly.

[Yangnomazuma 77]

3 hours ago, Oskanohana said:

I'm sorry, I must have misread a report of a supposed break-in at Kataonami-beya. Here

How. Dare. You.  :)

[rhyen 1,801]

Aratakayama vs Kobayashi:

Kobayashi wins the bout, falls off the dohyo and remained immobile. Medical team attends to him and prep him for transport to ambulance.

As he is wheeled out, the shimpan conducts their mono-ii. 
Decision: Kobayashi’s win stands. The junior gyoji points to an empty west rikishi on the dohyo

[RabidJohn 1,644]

Mitakeumi's trying to tempt me in again with a strong early performance. Lot of determination and tenacity so far - and I never expected to see him win by shitatenage.

Wakamotoharu got Onosato right where he wanted him, but the big kid's plan B was brutally effective. 'If you want to stay attached to your head, you're coming down here!'

Entertaining day of sumo, I thought, but Shonosuke totally stole the show getting bowled like that. 'No, I'm not getting up here. Shit, I'm not getting up here, either! Hoshoryu won, btw.'

[Kotogouryuu 126]

If anybody wonders why they sometimes give what seems like an extra push when their opponent appears to be on the way out already, Kirishima showed today what happens if you don't.

[dingo 1,133]

If I didn't know better, Shodai would absolutely look like a mid-maegashira and definitely not an ex-ozeki. Tawara escape attempts have been his bread and butter for a while, but this one looked especially fluked.

Excellent bout between Kotoshoho and Takanosho! Both very motivated so the bout was for sho not just for sho. 

Onosato had a great plan B and pulled it off perfectly. I guess he also learned that despite being smaller than him, Wakamotoharu is a sekiwake for a reason. Giving up an inside grip to him was not smart so Onosato has to be glad his reversing throw worked. 

Kirishima can only blame himself for that loss. At this level he should be ruthless enough to push out an opponent and not wait for him to step out himself. On the other hand, great fighting attitude by Daieisho and that proved to be the difference in the bout today. 

Great Shodai impression by Kotozakura, but if he wants to stay in contention for the yusho then he'd better stop doing that before it's too late. Gonoyama is a strong opponent but I believe Kotozakura could've handled him better. 

If today's bout is anything to go by, then Hiradoumi's belly needs to grow even more to accommodate the fire within. He almost got Hoshoryuu and if the stumbling gyoji wouldn't have been a distraction who knows what could've happened. 

After day four there's a great chance for one of the yusho-less contenders to grab their first cup. Still a lot of bouts ahead though. 

[RabidJohn 1,644]

Oh man, yes, Kirishima... I think I may have blocked the memory until I saw the two posts after my last.

The kami of mojo is no longer bestowing her favours on him, is she?

[Koorifuu 860]

Hoshoryu and Hiradoumi had a very decent bout, in case you didn't pay attention to them.

[hakutorizakura 583]

I found today's sumo very fun(ny). Didn't expect the last bout to top it all, but there you go 

[Yamanashi 3,690]

Watching the Hoshoryu-Hiradoumi-Shinosuke pas de trois reminds me that "if you want to post something on Ridiculous Predictions, it's got to be even more ridiculous than that."