Banzuke for Haru 2024

[Katooshu 3,182]

Surprisingly little success afterward for that group ....although Takerufuji should be more like Endo than the other three.

Edited February 26, 2024 by Katooshu

[Reonito 1,387]

Chiyosakake is the first J14 to survive with a 6-9 in a non-scandal basho since the division went to its current size. There was one precedent for saving Chiyomaru.

[Koorifuu 924]

4 hours ago, Reonito said:

With the possible exception of Onokatsu, not a lot to be excited about in the promotion zone 

Tsukahara often shows good enough skill, but he seems to fall apart right when it's crunch time.

Onosato might have benefited from the speculated unwritten rule that toriteki whose schedules are made harder due to being in yusho contention usually end up receiving a generous bump.

[Akinomaki 40,231]

3 hours ago, Yubinhaad said:

One rikishi changes the given name only:

Jd54e Enho Akira > Yuya (友哉 ,  ゆうや)

Back to his real name, with which he started, for his aimed restart this basho. Enho had switched to Akira to honor his local sumo dojo 4 year sempai Akira Kita, who was like an older brother to him and had died age 18 at a traffic accident o

[Reonito 1,387]

38 minutes ago, Koorifuu said:

Tsukahara often shows good enough skill, but he seems to fall apart right when it's crunch time.

Onosato might have benefited from the speculated unwritten rule that toriteki whose schedules are made harder due to being in yusho contention usually end up receiving a generous bump.

Although the same should have applied to Onosho, who ended up exactly where we expected...

[Akinomaki 40,231]

On 25/12/2023 at 11:58, Akinomaki said:

With the ever dwindling number of new recruits (all time low this year), the number of rikishi on the banzuke dropped below 600 - last time was 45 years ago, Haru 1979 with 585, now we have 599.

After Hatsu again less than 600 on the banzuke, now 594.  Most were 943 Natsu 1994, the height  of the Waka-Taka boom - last year we had only 53 new recruits, the least in the present 6 basho era since 1958 o

[Asashosakari 19,113]

8 hours ago, Reonito said:

Takerufuji joins a very short list of rikishi to fast-track through juryo in a single basho (and one of the previous 4 was heavily aided by the 2011 scandal).

Daikiko had unusual circumstances working in his favour, too; makuuchi was expanded from 38 to 40 at that time.

[Hoshotakamoto 258]

9 hours ago, Reonito said:

Takerufuji joins a very short list of rikishi to fast-track through juryo in a single basho (and one of the previous 4 was heavily aided by the 2011 scandal).

It looks like one of them may have been aided by what became the scandal.

[Hoshotakamoto 258]

8 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Daikiko had unusual circumstances working in his favour, too; makuuchi was expanded from 38 to 40 at that time.

So pretty much it's just Endo and Takerufuji walking in first on the east side like 

 

[Akinomaki 40,231]

On 13/11/2022 at 15:26, Akinomaki said:

Takerufuji (Ishioka) makes his jk debut this basho, starting with a win. He wants to prove himself worthy of the name Takeru (from Yamato Takeru no mikoto 日本武尊 - actually his shikona kanji is just mikoto, not Takeru, but that is common practice with shikona)  and become one who stands above the others. Terunofuji told him: "Because you'll be in makuuchi"

On 19/02/2024 at 21:05, Akinomaki said:

Terunofuji

himself had scouted him at Tottori Johoku high

Terunofuji with his "first uchi-deshi" tsukebito showed shisho qualities above Hakuho. Now that the Miyagino-beya Tottori route will dry up (for a while?), Isegahama may get more uchi-deshi for Terunofuji from there.

[Bunbukuchagama 706]

3 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Terunofuji with his "first uchi-deshi" tsukebito showed shisho qualities above Hakuho. Now that the Miyagino-beya Tottori route will dry up (for a while?), Isegahama may get more uchi-deshi for Terunofuji from there.

Terunofuji should be an excellent shisho one day, I am sure.

[Yokozuna Hattorizakura 151]

Personally I'm fine with the keeping chiyosakae over chiyomaru, it's what I would've done as well. having a 5-10 J12w go down, but not having the guy just half a rank higher with the same score stay just doesn't sit right with me lol.

On 26/02/2024 at 08:44, Reonito said:

With the possible exception of Onokatsu, not a lot to be excited about in the promotion zone 

There's a few stories there:

- Chiyomaru fighting back in the toriteki ranks for the first time in a long while,

- Hot prospects Onokatsu and Kayo edging closer to sekitori debuts.

- Veteran Kotodaigo hoping to finally break through after being previously snubbed for promotion.

- Kitadaichi's unexpected improvement into a joi capable rikishi

- will Tsukahara pull another 1-6, or will he finally pull a Shonnanoumi and realise he is 6'4 lol.

[Tigerboy1966 1,428]

18 minutes ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

- Hot prospects Onokatsu and Kayo edging closer to sekitori debuts.

And just a little further back we have the teenagers Satorufuji and Wakaikari who have a combined total of 11 kk in 12 basho.

[Reonito 1,387]

Thanks guys for making me feel better about makushita, I like following the yusho and promotion races but felt like it was a little thin this time after we've been spoiled with hot prospects and returning sekitori. I'd kinda forgotten about Kayo, and there are some good names in the "extended promotion zone"; I'd throw in Kototebakari in addition to the ones mentioned above. I really like his style, though sometimes he can seem a lot "lighter" to move than even his listed 123 kg.

[Akinomaki 40,231]

On 25/02/2024 at 23:20, Yubinhaad said:

And finally, one rikishi changes shusshin:

Ms10e Wakaikari - 東京都江戸川区 > 京都府京都市西京区 (Tokyo-to, Edogawa-ku > Kyoto-fu, Kyoto-shi, Nishikyo-ku)

Wakaikari (19) now has the shusshin of his father Oikari (Kabutoyama) and thus has his home basho now - and like Kotonowaka (with 3 home-towns) increased those cheering for him. Due to the family he usually talks Kansai-ben, the dialect in Osaka and Kyoto. He didn't know of the change though "Without knowing it just changed. Perhaps dad ..." o

- with 19 he is no minor any more to according to the new rules, but apparently not everywhere

[Yokozuna Hattorizakura 151]

Noticed something strange. According to the footage, Nishikio competed as Sato in Maezumo, however the kyokai website only shows him as Nishikio. This is in contrast to Anhibiki and Anryukai, who also changed their names when joining Jk but have their Mz names shown in their shikona history.

[Tigerboy1966 1,428]

Another fun makushita storyline. Tsukahara has been in the extended promotion zone for 25 of the last 28 basho. Now at ms4 and with no "monsters" lurking this could be his big opportunity. He has the size and a fearsome oshi attack... but then again he had those advantages five years ago...

[Reonito 1,387]

7 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Another fun makushita storyline. Tsukahara has been in the extended promotion zone for 25 of the last 28 basho. Now at ms4 and with no "monsters" lurking this could be his big opportunity. He has the size and a fearsome oshi attack... but then again he had those advantages five years ago...

The guy certainly had the kind of start that would make you pay attention (Jk 6-1 Y, Jd 7-0 Y, only loss to Kotoshoho, avenged in Jk playoff and again in Jd), reached upper Ms in 9 basho, then hit a wall.

[Yubinhaad 11,615]

8 hours ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

Noticed something strange. According to the footage, Nishikio competed as Sato in Maezumo, however the kyokai website only shows him as Nishikio. This is in contrast to Anhibiki and Anryukai, who also changed their names when joining Jk but have their Mz names shown in their shikona history.

Nishikio was announced under his shikona at the shussehiro, unless I'm mistaken it's standard for that to be the starting point of a rikishi's shikona history. Other recent examples that I can think of right now include Wakaikari (Saito in maezumo, shikona announced at shussehiro) and Kirinohana (Nakajima in maezumo etc.)

Anhibiki and Anryukai were announced under their real names at the shussehiro, and then changed to their shikona on the banzuke, which is why it's in their shikona history.

[serge_gva 52]

On 27/02/2024 at 08:18, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said:

Personally I'm fine with the keeping chiyosakae over chiyomaru, it's what I would've done as well. having a 5-10 J12w go down, but not having the guy just half a rank higher with the same score stay just doesn't sit right with me lol.

[Sorry to dig up this topic, I'm a few weeks behind in my bashos...]

Good point, I hadn't thought of that reason. It seems to me that treating two rikishi with the same results unevenly is one of the things NSK avoids (well, not always).

So, what do the old Banzuke experts think? Could this indeed be the reason why Chiyosakae became the first J14 6-9 in history to remain in Juryo?

[Akinomaki 40,231]

On 25/02/2024 at 23:20, Yubinhaad said:

Otake-beya's Tatsuki is now Tappa. The first kanji, taken from his real given name, remains the same, and now he uses that as his shikona given name again.

Sd4w Tatsuki Dai > Tappa Tatsuki (竜童　竜輝 ,  たっぱ　たつき)

Funny name, 竜童 is obviously a play with 河童 Kappa, water monster who like sumo - Japanese dragons 竜 are water deities as well. Maybe it will show on the next banzuke, on the heya page he is Tappa Dai 竜童 大 たっぱ だい, a step back to the previous shikona https://ootake-beya.com/staff/yanagawa/