Ripe 70 Posted March 23 Nah... Kise at least could walk. If this really is Achilles tear then for Takerufuji even walking is out of the question, let alone climbing up the dohyo. And anyone who would loose to him in this condition should submit their intai papers before leaving Kokugikan... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,376 Posted March 23 That's the second day in a row that the intra-ozeki match has been absolute garbage. Hoshoryu grabbed Kotonowaka, dragged him across the ring... then fell over. Kotonowaka got the win without making a single attacking move. If that's the best we've got we're in big trouble. Best match of the day was Tamawashi v Kitanowaka. Great fighting spirit by Kitanowaka: he might not be good enough for the top division but he gave everything he had in this bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripe 70 Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said: That's the second day in a row that the intra-ozeki match has been absolute garbage. Hoshoryu grabbed Kotonowaka, dragged him across the ring... then fell over. Kotonowaka got the win without making a single attacking move. If that's the best we've got we're in big trouble. Best match of the day was Tamawashi v Kitanowaka. Great fighting spirit by Kitanowaka: he might not be good enough for the top division but he gave everything he had in this bout. Hoshoryu tripped himself on Kotonowaka's leg... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadMeadow 33 Posted March 23 48 minutes ago, Ripe said: Nah... Kise at least could walk. If this really is Achilles tear then for Takerufuji even walking is out of the question, let alone climbing up the dohyo. And anyone who would loose to him in this condition should submit their intai papers before leaving Kokugikan... You can walk with a ruptured Achilles. I ruptured mine playing basketball and "walked" out of the gym, drove myself home, and walked around for about a week until surgery. If it is completely torn, it is a pretty pain-free injury. At least mine was. You just don't have any strength in your lower leg because your calf muscles aren't attached to the heel any more. He might need a hand getting into the dohyo to get all the bling, but he will be able to move around pretty well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ripe 70 Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, BroadMeadow said: You can walk with a ruptured Achilles. I ruptured mine playing basketball and "walked" out of the gym, drove myself home, and walked around for about a week until surgery. If it is completely torn, it is a pretty pain-free injury. At least mine was. You just don't have any strength in your lower leg because your calf muscles aren't attached to the heel any more. He might need a hand getting into the dohyo to get all the bling, but he will be able to move around pretty well. You can walk... whether you should is another thing. Especially if you're a sumo wrestler weighting over 140 kg. And competing should be out of the question... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BroadMeadow 33 Posted March 23 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Ripe said: You can walk... whether you should is another thing. Especially if you're a sumo wrestler weighting over 140 kg. And competing should be out of the question... Definitely! No way could he or should he wrestle. But if Onosato loses, being there for the ceremony isn't going to be a problem for him. If the tendon is completely torn, there isn't any more damage he can do to it by being there and being on his feet. If it is just a partial tear, that might be a different matter. In any event, very depressing. Edited March 23 by BroadMeadow Added info 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,814 Posted March 23 So much for weak legs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 327 Posted March 23 5 hours ago, Akinomaki said: The hansoku was obvious and Hiradoumi signalled that Ura had grabbed his hair, but Asakayama got a lot of booing from the audience for condemning the local darling to makekoshi Thanks for the extra info, from the highlights it seemed like the back of the head (not the topknot) and that Hiradoumi stayed poker-faced. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted March 23 Takerufuji- 4 hours at the hospital getting checked out, 10 pm arrives at home by taxi. Face could not be seen as the taxi was guarded by tsukebito. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted March 23 (edited) Precedents for yusho winners while kyujo: Kyushu 1973, Wajima injured the skin between two fingers on day 13 and lost, went kyujo on day 14, and clinched the yusho on day 14 as all of his runner-ups lost. He climbed the dohyo donning a mawashi to take the cup, kyujo notwithstanding. March 1989- Chiyonofuji clinched the yusho on day 14 but dislocated his shoulder and was kyujo on day 15. He showed up for the ceremony and held the cup with one hand. Edited March 23 by Kintamayama 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torideyama 30 Posted March 23 2 hours ago, BroadMeadow said: You can walk with a ruptured Achilles. I ruptured mine playing basketball and "walked" out of the gym, drove myself home, and walked around for about a week until surgery. If it is completely torn, it is a pretty pain-free injury. At least mine was. You just don't have any strength in your lower leg because your calf muscles aren't attached to the heel any more. He might need a hand getting into the dohyo to get all the bling, but he will be able to move around pretty well. So...what would be worse? 1. He goes kyujo and has no hope of a yusho if Onosato wins. Or 2. He shows up against Gonoyama, immediately (or shortly thereafter) rolls over and plays dead, thus giving him at least the opportunity for a playoof if Onosato wins. Is 2. against the 'hinkaku' spirit? To me, 2. is the better option, as the match against Gonoyama doesn't matter as he loses either way. But at least he can give it the old college try (if necessary) in a playoff. I am interested to hear the thought of the highly esteemed members of the forum. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,376 Posted March 23 4 hours ago, Ripe said: Hoshoryu tripped himself on Kotonowaka's leg... Yup. That's Kotonowaka's USP that gives him so many wins. He has a leg... and he stands on it. He also sometimes uses it to amble forward in a non-threatening way. That's why he's ozeki. 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,631 Posted March 23 9 hours ago, Akinomaki said: The hansoku was obvious and Hiradoumi signalled that Ura had grabbed his hair, but Asakayama got a lot of booing from the audience for condemning the local darling to makekoshi Replay made it even more obvious. There was no way they were going to not call that. Sucks for Ura and the crowd, but balling up his hand was what sealed that deal. It he had kept his hand open then it would have been another conversation. I have to deal with this all the time when officiating wrestling and looking for whether wrestlers are grabbing headgear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinoumi 4 Posted March 23 What happens if Takerufuji would participate (and loose) at his final match against Gonoyama and later, Onosato wins his one against Hoshoryu and both had to go kyujo due to injury? Drawing lots? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,989 Posted March 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, Torideyama said: So...what would be worse? 1. He goes kyujo and has no hope of a yusho if Onosato wins. Or 2. He shows up against Gonoyama, immediately (or shortly thereafter) rolls over and plays dead, thus giving him at least the opportunity for a playoof if Onosato wins. Is 2. against the 'hinkaku' spirit? To me, 2. is the better option, as the match against Gonoyama doesn't matter as he loses either way. But at least he can give it the old college try (if necessary) in a playoff. […] It's a very interesting take. My instinct tells me that if it is really super-serious, he won't turn up at all, while anything below (including "serious") will make him turn up and (unfortunately) try also in the first of potentially two bouts, instead of just sitting on his ass. Edited March 23 by yorikiried by fate 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junsan 170 Posted March 23 Such a merde basho, pardon my French. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,989 Posted March 23 (edited) BTW: I think if he shows up and attempts to battle Gonoyama, it might even make Hoshoryu try harder, too. Edited March 23 by yorikiried by fate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,335 Posted March 23 The only fusen playoff victory I could find was in Sandanme in 1984. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,160 Posted March 23 I hope he doesn't show up. It would be painful to even watch, not to mention how painful it must be for him. Unless he's high on painkillers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 535 Posted March 23 I figure that if it allows him to stand, he'll get put in a Tomokaze-style boot, pivot on his good ankle on the tachiai, and if Gonoyama doesn't dive headfirst into space, allow the push-out so he doesn't get yeeted off the dohyo again. If it's any kind of an Achilles injury, it would be absolute madness to do more than that. (And the only reason it's not madness to show up at all is the 2% chance Gonoyama does something irredeemably dumb on the tachiai.) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 327 Posted March 23 Today was not a good day for Isegahama beya https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&year=2024.03&day=14&heya1=24 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 327 Posted March 23 Just now, Octofuji said: Today was not a good day for Isegahama beya https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&year=2024.03&day=14&heya1=24 Three makekoshi, two missed kachikoshi, plus Takerufuji... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 688 Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said: I figure that if it allows him to stand, he'll get put in a Tomokaze-style boot, pivot on his good ankle on the tachiai, and if Gonoyama doesn't dive headfirst into space, allow the push-out so he doesn't get yeeted off the dohyo again. If it's any kind of an Achilles injury, it would be absolute madness to do more than that. (And the only reason it's not madness to show up at all is the 2% chance Gonoyama does something irredeemably dumb on the tachiai.) This is crazy. Even ozumo will not allow an athlete with a torn Achilles tendon on the dohyo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,135 Posted March 23 (edited) So many injuries for those legs during Takerufuji's sumo career. This is at least the 4th major one since high school. Would be an absolutely awful way not to yusho, but the long-term is what I'm more worried about for him. I think Hoshoryu will beat Onosato, but suddenly Onosato's yusho hopes seem much brighter. Edited March 23 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 535 Posted March 23 32 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said: This is crazy. Even ozumo will not allow an athlete with a torn Achilles tendon on the dohyo. I'm not saying it's the least bit sane. I'm just saying how I see it potentially going down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
