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39 years old and Tamawashi is still going strong. Today he upset Asanoyama and opened the yusho arasoi. We have a nice second week coming!

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10 hours ago, lackmaker said:

Really, does anyone else think a 12-3 yusho doesn't get the promotion?

Context, and content, matters. Mainoumi commented yesterday that the NAIYOU (content) of the loss was SAIAKU (the absolute worst). Pulling and retreating is not what the committee wants to see from a newly crowned Yokozuna. 

Even so, I agree that a 12-3 consecutive yusho likely gets the job done regardless of the NAIYOU. 

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Asanoyama twisted his right ankle as he lost to Tamawashi but says it's ok. - he'll likely soon appear in the TerUra mummy/cyborg style, the left leg is there already

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- I guess that's it for his yusho contention this basho

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Given that Kirishima won the yusho last basho, any yusho is an automatic qualification for promotion, to be denied theoretically only for hinkaku reasons.

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Discussion about the handling of injured rikishi moved here.

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Kirishima-Onosho, Kotonowaka-Onosato and Wakamotoharu-Oho on Day 10. They appear to be somewhat worried on the torikumi committee.

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On 20/01/2024 at 03:18, specialweek 2 said:
On 20/01/2024 at 03:07, Morty said:

he's got so much metal in those braces protecting his knees that kicking one of them would likely break your foot. So it would be a dumb strategy to go for.

Actually I believe no metal parts. The US import braces have a solid material as support and Kyokai won't accept metal braces.

Aminishiki was reported as having a metal gear and Terunofuji took it from him, maybe by now the metal is gone, but both are a violation of sumo rules anyway: no gadgets to be used - sticking to their own rules is all part of last century, I guess Isegahama as long time chief shimpan was powerful enough to have that get accepted.

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8 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Asanoyama twisted his right ankle as he lost to Tamawashi but says it's ok. - he'll likely soon appear in the TerUra mummy/cyborg style, the left leg is there already

- I guess that's it for his yusho contention this basho

I didn't believe it anyway, they always say it's OK, but I didn't expect him to be out that soon - I'm astonished the ever growing kyujo board has not been in the daily pics yet -  one sekitori per day on average now, but Takayasu counted twice

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I had sound off for Onosato's KK interview. I'm curious from those who heard it, did he stick to the typical script or did his limited time in ozumo lead to a more open conversation?

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I didn't understand what was said, but Takekuma-san's comment following his deshi's loss to Abi's henka was very terse.

10 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Given that Kirishima won the yusho last basho, any yusho is an automatic qualification for promotion, to be denied theoretically only for hinkaku reasons.

I don't doubt a Kirishima yusho would get him the rope: I just doubt he can yusho after taking 2 losses in the 1st week.
He's capable of winning out from here, but I'm not pinning any hopes on it.

Both Mongolian ozeki look like it's only a matter of time before promotion, and I can be patient.

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1 hour ago, RabidJohn said:

I didn't understand what was said, but Takekuma-san's comment following his deshi's loss to Abi's henka was very terse.

If I heard it correctly, he said something to the effect that if a guy gets henka'd it's his own fault, and he needs to keep the possibility in mind against crafty rikishi like Abi. 

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Certainly looked to me like Kirishima got away with a gift from the shimpan today. The usual dead body discussion aside, I'm expecting a redo there, and could see them being harsh with Kirishima and letting the call stand. Definitely didn't see the reversal being called even after going frame by frame.

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Takerufuji on his way to join an exclusive club?

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1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:

Takerufuji on his way to join an exclusive club?

Interestingly the first two out of the only four after 1950 had very short careers, and the third actually got a big lift by several people, including the second in that list.

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Shodai looked legit upset when he was initially declared the winner. Guess that was one of the matches he was trying to lose to get/keep the rank he really wants. 

Day 10 schedule is crazy at the top! Moving early to clear the O-boys out of the way. 

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1 hour ago, Doitsuyama said:

Interestingly the first two out of the only four after 1950 had very short careers, and the third actually got a big lift by several people, including the second in that list.

The first three have 8 makuuchi basho between them, for an average of 2.67 each.

The fourth guy has 61. (Laughing...) (nearly all in succession, but that's probably coming to an end now)

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On 21/01/2024 at 07:13, Katooshu said:

Hakuyozan has a compulsion for late, obviously unnecessary shoves. One of the only rikishi I actually dislike. 

I have a vivid memory of him doing that to Enho once, blatant dame oshi, totally wrecked the little guy. Hated Hakuyozan ever since.

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For someone who's new in ozumo and facing a former sekiwake, Onokatsu could definitely make a bit of a better effort to bow after the bout. That was barely a nod for Wakatakakage and felt quite disrespectful. Surprised that the gyoji didn't make him come back for a redo. Wakatakakage himself did it much better. 

Brutal tachiai by Meisei, a proper welcome to the upper ranks for Onosato. I still don't quite understand how he managed to win this bout except that he kept moving forward and didn't let go of Meisei. 

Abi did the henka today that Shodai was perhaps expecting yesterday. I guess Gounoyama was an easier target than Shodai. Wonder if Abi has a list of rikishi on his wall and he's checkmarked the suitable henka targets...

Great win for Ura! His entertainment value is seemingly endless. 

Kotonowaka showed great defence once again against Daieisho. I haven't seen Daieisho's oshi so ineffective for a while, usually he manages to push back his opponents well but everything was just absorbed by Kotonowaka. Once Kotonowaka got the belt grip the bout was basically over. 

Kirishima probably got a minor heart attack over that sashichigae. In the end all is still well for now. 

Terunofuji is having a harder time than usual these last few days, but still has the strength to overpower his opposition for now. I do wonder if that will last until the end of the basho. 

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11 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Kirishima-Onosho, Kotonowaka-Onosato and Wakamotoharu-Oho on Day 10. They appear to be somewhat worried on the torikumi committee.

Kotonowaka gets the shortest stick as Onosato is clearly the most capable of those three. 

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Anyone else annoyed by the closeness in names of Onosato and Onosho?  I am, especially given they're very close on the banzuke and both doing well.  it seems half the time I see one of those names on the database's schedule, I interpret it the wrong way.

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11 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Kirishima-Onosho, Kotonowaka-Onosato and Wakamotoharu-Oho on Day 10. They appear to be somewhat worried on the torikumi committee.

Yeah just a bit 

 

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14 minutes ago, dingo said:

Kotonowaka gets the shortest stick as Onosato is clearly the most capable of those three. 

He would've had to fight Tobizaru otherwise, who is a tough opponent for him. If an Ozeki candidate can't beat a rookie...

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Looks like they don't want a mullet to debut the Toyota Century.

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