GTB invite- Hatsu 2024 --RESULTS!! 199 entries.

[Kintamayama 45,345]

2 hours ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

Sure thing, Zambara

That was actually me, as I am allowed to post only GTB related stuff.. 

[Yubinhaad 11,728]

I don't know if there's a particular policy among the sumo games community about re-using shikona, particularly in cases where the original player is known to be deceased. Personally I feel quite strongly that it should not be allowed, but if it is allowed then clearly it shouldn't be connected to the original player's data which has happened with Fukurou in GTB recently. I know she only played one basho over two decades ago and it doesn't affect any stats etc, but  that should definitely be corrected.

[#1HENKAFAN 40]

To be fair if you can really reuse shikona than there's a solid chance the new Fukurou didn't know anyone had used the name before.

[Bunbukuchagama 739]

Hm... No huge surprises. They went by the numbers except when they didn't (joi).

Did anyone guess Kotoshoho over Onosho?

P.S. Oh yeah, and Kotonowaka DID move ahead of Daieisho.

Edited December 24, 2023 by Bunbukuchagama

[#1HENKAFAN 40]

65 points for me this time. Asanoyama's demotion being as far as possible and Kotonowaka over Daieisho both surprised me a lot. I also got Takarafuji and Onosato swapped but overall I don't feel too bad and I'm hoping being so similar to Asashosakari's list will carry me to a strong score. It's looking like the joi bias for rikishi not in the sanyaku is less generous with the current banzuke committee, that might be something I have to keep in mind for the future.

Edited December 24, 2023 by #1HENKAFAN

[Kintamayama 45,345]

Thank God for small moments.

[Bunbukuchagama 739]

1 minute ago, #1HENKAFAN said:

Asanoyama's demotion being as far as possible

It looks like parachute distribution is now limited to sanyaku only. Waka and Hokutofuji got them (and Abi to a lesser extent), but Asanoyama and Meisei didn't - and Onosho even received an extra "FU" as a cherry on top.

Pretty much everything that could go wrong with my banzuke went wrong indeed. 61 points and another 9-6, I guess. 

[maglor 122]

This is going to be a super high scoring banzuke, I think I got 72 but have seen quite a few people score more. Giving up 2 points to everyone by insanely putting Takarafuji behind Bushozan is going to hurt, especially as the banzuke committee was as drunk as I was and gave Onosho an overdemotion to place him behind a Juryo promotee. Right idea, wrong execution

Edited December 24, 2023 by maglor

[Sumo Spiffy 569]

12 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

It looks like parachute distribution is now limited to sanyaku only. Waka and Hokutofuji got them (and Abi to a lesser extent), but Asanoyama and Meisei didn't - and Onosho even received an extra "FU" as a cherry on top.

Pretty much everything that could go wrong with my banzuke went wrong indeed. 61 points and another 9-6, I guess. 

I got 63 and I'll be happy with a top 50. Just flipping Hiradoumi and Mitakeumi the one time they decided not to give a full rank boost to an 8-7 when it was possible is going to cost me a a ton of places.

[Bunbukuchagama 739]

2 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

I got 63 and I'll be happy with a top 50. Just flipping Hiradoumi and Mitakeumi the one time they decided not to give a full rank boost to an 8-7 when it was possible is going to cost me a a ton of places.

I went full force with Meisei over both of them. I knew it was risky, but still went for it - and here go my 5 points...

 

[Asashosakari 19,500]

Yeah, all you need to know about this banzuke is that basically all my coinflip decisions were wrong and it's still 64 points anyway...

[Bunbukuchagama 739]

Consider this: there was a difference of half a rank between Hokutofuji and Asanoyama in Kyushu; Hokutofuji got 2 full ranks of a cushion, yet Asanoyama got pushed down as low as reasonably possible. 

[Sumo Spiffy 569]

I did my math wrong; it looks like I got 67, not 63. But that just means I would have 71, which is in a way more painful even though I'm happier with the actual result.

All I'm absolutely sure of is that the Kotoshoho/Onosho decision guaranteed nobody got a perfect score. That's not exactly a hot take, but as I was going through it, I kept being like, well, I guess someone could think of this, I know some people thought of that, and then... nope, nobody guess that. Not a chance in hell. And anyone who did almost certainly got a lot of other stuff wrong.

[Bunbukuchagama 739]

2 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

All I'm absolutely sure of is that the Kotoshoho/Onosho decision guaranteed nobody got a perfect score.

I don't know how it could be justified except "we hate Onosho". There was absolutely no reason to screw him extra hard.

[Ganzohnesushi 522]

61 here, seems to be very mean. I assume it will be 8-7, if I'm lucky it's 9-6.

Ganzohnesushi

[Hoshotakamoto 259]

I'll try to justify the committee's decisions for M10w, M11w, M12w, M13w, M14w by saying that they landed these guys in their mathematical position and dropped them half a slot to make room for Wakamotoharu coming down. (I predicted the lower ranking rikishi just being haphazardly slotted in the gaps between these guys, and was sortof right except that every single east-west was flipped.) Onosho did land 0.5 slot behind Kotoshoho by positioning himself 5.0 slots lower in the calculations.

[Kintamayama 45,345]

On 23/12/2023 at 23:02, Yubinhaad said:

I don't know if there's a particular policy among the sumo games community about re-using shikona, particularly in cases where the original player is known to be deceased. Personally I feel quite strongly that it should not be allowed, but if it is allowed then clearly it shouldn't be connected to the original player's data which has happened with Fukurou in GTB recently. I know she only played one basho over two decades ago and it doesn't affect any stats etc, but  that should definitely be corrected.

Yes, I noticed that a few days ago-will be fixed.

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,275]

58 62 after not being able to count and after getting the entire joi wrong whoops!

Edited December 24, 2023 by Tsuchinoninjin

[Kintamayama 45,345]

As suspected, an extremely high scoring  basho- a new record of 78 points has been set by Kishikaisei- second yusho. Congrats!! If you got 58 points or less, it's an MK for you. 199 participants. 28 new players, 7 of them kachikoshi.

Milestones:

Sukubidubidu- 120th (!!) basho!!

Oshiyama- 30th basho

Oortael- 30th basho

BlackPinkMawashi - 20th basho 

Thank you for playing and thanks again to Andoreasu for administrating and Doitsuyama for being there for everything.. You can see how you did here:

And now.. on with the Ba-show!!

And Merry Christmas to everyone.

Edited December 24, 2023 by Kintamayama

[Sumo Spiffy 569]

This is for the people who want to hear someone be openly gobsmacked about what they did to Onosho. And the Kotonowaka placement being pretty goofy, but especially Onosho.

 

[Gurowake 4,088]

Hats off to second and third place tied "Flew" and "Tim Sumo" who each had 42 correct guesses but 4 flips of east-west, the Sekiwake likely one of them.  Anyone have those as their only mistakes before?

Edited December 25, 2023 by Gurowake

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,275]

1 minute ago, Gurowake said:

4 flips of east-west, the Sekiwake likely one of them.

Zambara was right again...

[Gurowake 4,088]

3 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

All I'm absolutely sure of is that the Kotoshoho/Onosho decision guaranteed nobody got a perfect score.

Only other mistake on the winner's guess was flipping Takarafuji and Onosato.  This was almost certainly the most likely banzuke ever to possibly get a perfect score on, but it still would have required making a decision that makes very little sense even if it's just an east-west switch, as they're generally reluctant to overdemote Makuuchi for Juryo promotees.  There tends to be at least one "they normally do the opposite of that" every banzuke though.

Edited December 25, 2023 by Gurowake

[Nantonoyama 252]

Congrats to Kishikaisei!

I believe I had some kind of record of available points percentage. I guess it is gone now?

[Hoshotakamoto 259]

4 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Hats off to second and third place tied "Flew" and "Tim Sumo" who each had 42 correct guesses but 4 flips of east-west, the Sekiwake likely one of them.  Anyone have those as their only mistakes before?

I certainly haven't but I'm also marveling at the degree of difficulty for Tim to get this after he was already positioned in a top-3 spot (it's like being a top-10 poker player and also being the wsop main event winner which is basically always some rando ever since participation went into the thousands).