Basho absences Nagoya 2023

[dingo 1,212]

I wonder if he'll be able to get kachikoshi with max 11 days remaining. A healthy Kirishima for sure, but an injured one... 

[Yubinhaad 11,591]

A trio of Jonidan rikishi have withdrawn ahead of Day 3:

Jd19w Iitsuka - had to be taken away in the wheelchair after suffering a left leg injury in his first bout.

Jd56w Yukiamami

Jd70w Kyonosato (fusenpai Day 2)

 

I forgot to mention that Futagoyama-oyakata (former Ozeki Miyabiyama) is back on shimpan duty here, he sat out the Natsu basho after some poor health due to kidney stones.

[Akinomaki 40,037]

Kirishima will be back on day 4, he's on the torikumi vs. Kotonowaka - first time since the start of Showa for a new ozeki after a day 1 kyujo. After training today he went to a hospital for treatment.  He wanted to enter and talked it over with the shisho and he let him do so. o https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/07/11/kiji/20230711s00005000392000c.html

Edited July 11, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Yubinhaad 11,591]

Longest gap between bouts? 

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

8 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

Longest gap between bouts? 

I see what you did there. 

[Kamitsuumi 389]

There is the classic Konishiki vs Ōnishiki

And this pair (Konishiki vs Kurosegawa) is longer

[Chartorenji 235]

15 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Kirishima will be back on day 4, he's on the torikumi vs. Kotonowaka - first time since the start of Showa for a new ozeki after a day 1 kyujo. After training today he went to a hospital for treatment.  He wanted to enter and talked it over with the shisho and he let him do so. o https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/07/11/kiji/20230711s00005000392000c.html

Really hope he is all healthy. Could still easily pull in a Kachi-Koshi if he is. 

Edited July 11, 2023 by Chartorenji

[Reonito 1,384]

Terunofuji kyujo (haven't seen an official source yet, but it's all over sumo Twitter)

[Yarimotsu 548]

6 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Terunofuji kyujo (haven't seen an official source yet, but it's all over sumo Twitter)

Simply had to be the case after how much pain he was in yesterday. Now the question is, can he recover?

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,261]

Article about Terunofuji's kyujou

https://article.auone.jp/detail/1/6/12/202_12_r_20230712_1689119472212563

Lower spine slipped disk and 腰椎椎体終板障害 (lumbar end point contusion?? we couldn't figure it out)

One months rest (huh?)

Edited July 12, 2023 by Tsuchinoninjin

[Kishinoyama 582]

I remember the post by Kintamayama about the Terunofuji back injury during training. I guarantee it was more serious than we were led to believe. Their is always pressure to enter when you are the only Yokozuna. 

[Yarimotsu 548]

2 hours ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

Article about Terunofuji's kyujou

https://article.auone.jp/detail/1/6/12/202_12_r_20230712_1689119472212563

Lower spine slipped disk and 腰椎椎体終板障害 (lumbar end point contusion?? we couldn't figure it out)

One months rest (huh?)

This image seems pretty demonstrative of some possible defects with disc endplates. It's a thin membrane either side of the discs in your spine, separating them from your vertebrae.

Having slipped the same disc and undergone surgery for it, that's a bad enough injury without anything else complicating it. Usually recoverable though. My surgeon said resting generally doesn't help with slipped discs.

[Akinomaki 40,037]

On 01/07/2023 at 14:53, Akinomaki said:

After 4 years again the traditional dohyo-iri and shrine visit at the Atsuta shrine in Nagoya before the basho, about 2500 watched. Terunofuji with tachi-mochi Midorifuji and Takarafuji

Because of acute back pain, Terunofuji stopped training after one bout today and didn't talk to the press after the dohyo-iri.

- most likely he won't be in the yusho hunt this time

On 02/07/2023 at 09:27, Akinomaki said:

Terunofuji yesterday stopped keiko after one bout because of acute lower back pain, but today with his dohyoiri attendants was 5-0 with Midorifuji and 3-2 with Takarafuji: "Just some sudden pain. There's still one week ... Each day in consultation with the body, the same as always" https://www.sanspo.com/article/20230702-ZYKBIWF7KZKIHCMPK3ADPEY6II/

Just what I expected, I have over 30 years of hernia experience - never had surgery. You can cover for it at the expense of your knees, Terunofuji had no option for that. It grows worse gradually, so he could attempt to cover it up at first. He had some history of lower back pain before his first rise to ozeki, then the knees became the thing in the focus.

 

I found "disturbance of the vertebral end plates" for 腰椎椎体終板障害 https://www.ikeda-c.jp/byouki/disturbance_of_the_vertebral_end_plates.html

-  mine was at the top of the end plates/bottom of the next section

Edited July 12, 2023 by Akinomaki

[RabidJohn 1,719]

My herniated disc ended up impinging on my right femoral nerve and effectively killed it (so I'd have been unable to do a kanreki dohyo-iri in March).

I'd advise Terunofuji to go intai, drop the weight (and hopefully reverse the diabetes), and save what's left of his back for his old age. The knees can be replaced...

But he's a yokozuna who wants to be a dai-yokozuna, so I expect he'll hang on.

Edited July 12, 2023 by RabidJohn

[Yubinhaad 11,591]

Ahead of Day 5, two more Jonidan rikishi pull out of the basho:

Jd39e Furanshisu

Jd94e Nishikimaru (fusenpai Day 4) - was limping slightly after his first bout, although it didn't seem too bad at the time.

[Yubinhaad 11,591]

J3e Ichiyamamoto is kyujo from Day 5 according to the Kyokai website. Atamifuji will collect the fusensho.

Edit: Left knee injury requiring two weeks of rest and treatment, say the press.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Yubinhaad

[Yarimotsu 548]

Called it yesterday - Ichiyamamoto looked a lot less than 100% on day 1 but seemed to worsen his injury yesterday. Leg/back as always.

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

Azumaryu still in? He had a bad limp yesterday...

[Sumo Spiffy 544]

48 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Azumaryu still in? He had a bad limp yesterday...

If Azu drops to makushita, I imagine he's done. He'll drag his ass out there until it's heavier than a pile of flooded sandbags.

[Koorifuu 921]

Azumaryu is wily enough to extend his sekitori career for a while longer, even if his body's waving the white flag.

[Yubinhaad 11,591]

Ahead of Day 7, one rikishi returns to the basho after a few days out, while one in Sandanme has to withdraw.

Returning:

Jd56w Yukiamami (withdrew Day 3)

Withdrawing:

Sd32e Suguro

[Chartorenji 235]

This is what, the 6th or 7th Kyujo for Suguro? 

[Yamanashi 3,772]

1 hour ago, Chartorenji said:

This is what, the 6th or 7th Kyujo for Suguro? 

Sixth.  Four 0-0-7 basho, and a 4-1-2 in March 2022 (followed by a 0-0-7).  His record is an amazing 35-8-30 before this kyujo.

[Kintamayama 44,639]

Ichiyamamoto returning tomorrow. Doesn't wanna drop to Makushita, they say. He'll be up in Makuuchi facing Ryuuden.

Edited July 15, 2023 by Kintamayama

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

5 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Doesn't wanna drop to Makushita, they say.

Really? What a surprise.