dingo 1,161 Posted November 15, 2023 In Juryo, Kagayaki vs Kotoshouhou was very entertaining today. Lots of changing initiative and direction, pushing-pulling action. One of the more entertaining bouts this basho so far. Oshoma offered surprisingly little resistance to Aoiyama. After seeing the growing ineffectiveness of Aoiyama's tsuppari in makuuchi for a while, I have a hard time believing that he suddenly found his strength again. So Oshoma's loss is even more puzzling, unless he really is a pushover. Atamifuji did a couple of miracle escapes and somehow managed to outlast Ryuden. I wouldn't have expected him to win a stamina battle but youth is a strong weapon. Kotonowaka looking very confident today against Abi. Good stability and reaction. Hope he will carry that on to double digit wins this basho. Wakamotoharu on the other hand doesn't look likely to reach double digit kachikoshi. Over the last few basho he looks looks like a good sekiwake, but not more. Kirishima lost, but there's no shame in losing to this Takayasu who turned up today. Ozeki level sumo, even if it didn't come from the ozeki. Takakeisho however should feel bad to lose against winless Meisei. With the other ozeki quite solid and Daieisho running full steam as well, Takakeisho's path to yusho just got narrower. Not that it was much wider than a sagari string anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted November 15, 2023 1 minute ago, dingo said: Oshoma offered surprisingly little resistance to Aoiyama. After seeing the growing ineffectiveness of Aoiyama's tsuppari in makuuchi for a while, I have a hard time believing that he suddenly found his strength again. So Oshoma's loss is even more puzzling, unless he really is a pushover. Quirky matchup. Oshoma thrives on staying on the defensive and exploiting people who overextend themselves. Aoiyama was never going to give him that opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,817 Posted November 15, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Koorifuu said: What's it with young, unexperienced guys adopting the "let's give him exactly what he needs" approach while facing Daishoho? There's two possible outcomes in battles against Daishoho. You give him frontal yotsu and lose (unless you're amongst the absolute best at it) or make him work for it and win (unless you're sandanme level or worse). To me it looked more like Takahashi failed to execute a HNH. Edited November 15, 2023 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,387 Posted November 15, 2023 The neck: 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,161 Posted November 15, 2023 28 minutes ago, Koorifuu said: Quirky matchup. Oshoma thrives on staying on the defensive and exploiting people who overextend themselves. Aoiyama was never going to give him that opportunity. Makes sense. Aoiyama has plenty of experience exploiting overextending people himself so he knew how to manage Oshoma. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted November 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: To me it looked more like Takahashi failed to execute a HNH. You are correct and I could've mentioned it. He still followed it up by embracing Daishoho of his own volition, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fashiritētā 169 Posted November 15, 2023 Takakeisho keeping his neck safe is starting to cost his matches, now that everyone has seen his new tachiai , he will have a harder time winning let alone take the rope. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
since_94 650 Posted November 15, 2023 Kotoeko muscled Oho off his feet with what looked at first to me to be a slap, but when seen from another angle was actually a two handed push. Impressive display of strength all the same. Ryuden Atamifuji was a barn burner. Crowd loved it. Didn’t we all? Nishikigi with such a sweet shitatenage against Shonanomi. He looked brilliant on defense throughout that bout. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bakayokozuna 52 Posted November 15, 2023 Daiesho vs Kotonowaka tomorrow ! Both 4-0 and trying to build an ozeki run, should be fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junsan 170 Posted November 15, 2023 And just like that Hoshoryu is leading the ozeki pack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Obana 301 Posted November 15, 2023 In preparation for watching Grand Sumo Highlights on NHK World, to celebrate Meisei's first win of the basho, I prepared some (very lightly) seared tuna, accompanied with Kubota sake. Go Meisei! 18 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,875 Posted November 15, 2023 First wins today - first win as new makuuchi: Roga first win as a pro: last ms15TD Onokatsu first fusensho as a pro: Onosato first win after 236 days: Wakatakakage 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,340 Posted November 15, 2023 10 hours ago, Koorifuu said: Quirky matchup. Oshoma thrives on staying on the defensive and exploiting people who overextend themselves. Aoiyama was never going to give him that opportunity. Even now, Aoiyama is basically a much better version of Oshoma 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotomiyama 165 Posted November 15, 2023 Does anybody have spare tickets for the Atamifuji bandwagon? I would like to jump in if there's place left! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,817 Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Surprising resilience by Onokatsu. Looks like he found his groove. Edited November 16, 2023 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Kotomiyama said: Does anybody have spare tickets for the Atamifuji bandwagon? I would like to jump in if there's place left! All aboard. The young stud is out to prove that last basho was no fluke--and so far he's succeeding. Edited November 16, 2023 by Kaninoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotomiyama 165 Posted November 16, 2023 Indeed. I was impressed yesterday with his sheer patience when cornered against the tawara, a quality that only the chosen have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted November 16, 2023 What the heck just happened with Hoshoryu and Gonoyama? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lackmaker 432 Posted November 16, 2023 9 hours ago, Kotomiyama said: Does anybody have spare tickets for the Atamifuji bandwagon? I would like to jump in if there's place left! Careful, it's going at quite a pace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
since_94 650 Posted November 16, 2023 28 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said: What the heck just happened with Hoshoryu and Gonoyama? Tedium for television viewers? The prolonged stare down thing rarely impresses the truly jaded sumo fans among us and that one was just beyond the beyond. FFS, the news needs to start at 6pm! I’m not even Japanese but I get antsy when rikishi mess with the order of the time/space continuum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
since_94 650 Posted November 16, 2023 29 minutes ago, lackmaker said: Careful, it's going at quite a pace. I’m on board! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lackmaker 432 Posted November 16, 2023 Expect delays. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eskbibs 72 Posted November 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Kaninoyama said: What the heck just happened with Hoshoryu and Gonoyama? I thought there must have been an incident during the jungyo or during training or something, as I recall things like this happening as a result of such incidents. But I also don't remember seeing anything of the sort reported here, so...who knows. Otherwise Gonoyama seems like a very random target for such a staredown. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kujo 116 Posted November 16, 2023 It's good to see that Atamifuji's inexperience and for better words "wake up call" in the last basho doesn't seem to have affected him. I kind of looked at him like Tokushoryu's run to his basho, kind of a once in a lifetime thing. Looks like Atamifuji may have some skills after all :-} 2 hours ago, Kaninoyama said: What the heck just happened with Hoshoryu and Gonoyama? I was hoping Gonoyama would knock the smug look off Hoshoryu's face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leoben 121 Posted November 16, 2023 (edited) Not only the staredown, after Hoshoryu won he gave Gonoyama an extremely nasty look. Something must have happened between them because he occasionally does the staredown thing but he's never as venomous as he appeared today. Aside from that, the win itself was very solid. This was the kind of fight he would have almost certainly lost a year ago, either from the nodowa or the pull down, but this time he countered both very well. Edited November 16, 2023 by Leoben 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites