Kyushu 2023 discussion (results)

[Reonito 1,335]

20 minutes ago, bettega said:

Only two Sekiwake next basho.

Must be pretty unusual to have had more than the requisite two for 8 consecutive basho! In fact, I think there was a stretch of 9 in 1992-1994, but that's it.

[Yamanashi 3,728]

1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:

Whippersnapper! The first time Tamawashi  was Ms2, we still had Kaio, Chiyotaikai, Kotomitsuki and Yokozuna Asashoryu!

Well, what about the fifth time?

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

1 hour ago, Reonito said:

Must be pretty unusual to have had more than the requisite two for 8 consecutive basho! In fact, I think there was a stretch of 9 in 1992-1994, but that's it.

This was the end of multiplication of sekiwake. 

[Seiyashi 4,071]

Worth pointing out it's only Wakamotoharu's second MK in as many years in makuuchi. Given that he's turned in double digit KKs in the joi before, he ought to be back in short order. 

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

14 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Worth pointing out it's only Wakamotoharu's second MK in as many years in makuuchi. Given that he's turned in double digit KKs in the joi before, he ought to be back in short order. 

Climbing up to sekiwake is not as easy as falling out of it. Kotonowaka and Daieisho aren't going anywhere.

[Octofuji 327]

1 hour ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Climbing up to sekiwake is not as easy as falling out of it. Kotonowaka and Daieisho aren't going anywhere.

... except up?

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

1 minute ago, Octofuji said:

... except up?

One day...Maybe...

[rokudenashi 291]

4 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Climbing up to sekiwake is not as easy as falling out of it. Kotonowaka and Daieisho aren't going anywhere.

WMH has displayed a level of consistency in the jōi that many short-lived sekiwake from my recollection have been unable to.

I think we’ll see him back at the rank soon. I don’t think he’ll go any higher, however.

[Akinomaki 39,805]

On 25/11/2023 at 20:01, Akinomaki said:

Kirishima now has the most wins of the year award guaranteed

The award ceremony is after the usual trophy parade for the yusho winner

The most wins of the year award from the sponsor NishiNippon shimbun, which this basho provided a daily gallery for important rikishi from Kyushu o

the company president hands it over

[Akinomaki 39,805]

Sell-out of 6980 on day 15, after Atamifuji lost 10% left, another 10% after the final bout, after the yusho interview about 50% remained - NHK coverage ended there as well. By the time the NHK cup was awarded, about 10% remained, even less than that for the final kami-okuri ceremony that concludes the  basho, about 17 minutes after the broadcast stopped at 18h JST. o

[Seiyashi 4,071]

18 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Sell-out of 6980 on day 15, after Atamifuji lost 10% left, another 10% after the final bout, after the yusho interview about 50% remained - NHK coverage ended there as well. By the time the NHK cup was awarded, about 10% remained, even less than that for the final kami-okuri ceremony that concludes the  basho, about 17 minutes after the broadcast stopped at 18h JST. o

I wonder whether the numbers are about normal for other basho, pre COVID. Feels like a lot of people not bothering to stay for the award ceremony shouldn't be surprising. 

[rhyen 1,809]

16 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

Right now it's Isegahamabeya's world, and we're just living in it. 

And Oitekazedom 

[Yamanashi 3,728]

15 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Well, what about the fifth time?

 

17 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Whippersnapper! The first time Tamawashi  was Ms2, we still had Kaio, Chiyotaikai, Kotomitsuki and Yokozuna Asashoryu!

Kitaharima went through the rank Ms2 five times.

[rhyen 1,809]

4 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

I wonder whether the numbers are about normal for other basho, pre COVID. Feels like a lot of people not bothering to stay for the award ceremony shouldn't be surprising. 

It is correct, you need to hustle to the various heya senshuraku parties that start around 6pm-ish.

only the yusho winner’s party starts a little later.

[Yamanashi 3,728]

4 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

I wonder whether the numbers are about normal for other basho, pre COVID. Feels like a lot of people not bothering to stay for the award ceremony shouldn't be surprising. 

It's getting dark pretty early this time of year (~5:15 PM).  maybe that had something to do with it.

[Reonito 1,335]

12 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Climbing up to sekiwake is not as easy as falling out of it. Kotonowaka and Daieisho aren't going anywhere.

He got there by forcing an extra slot with 11 wins at K; high bar but could happen again even without an opening

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

16 hours ago, Reonito said:

He got there by forcing an extra slot with 11 wins at K; high bar but could happen again even without an opening

That was the only 11-4 Makuuchi basho of his career.

But it can happen again, of course.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Bunbukuchagama

[Jakusotsu 5,815]

I just realized that Ura will finally make it to Komusubi after generating lots of hype eight years ago. I guess most have given up hope by now.

[WAKATAKE 2,631]

Tamawashi at 1568 consecutive matches, with the record at 1630. Barring injury withdrawal, falling to makushita or retirement, he will break the record on day 3 of Aki 2024

[RabidJohn 1,665]

2 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

I just realized that Ura will finally make it to Komusubi after generating lots of hype eight years ago. I guess most have given up hope by now.

Is that a certainty? Only moving up to M1E seems possible, not that I GTB...

A total of 4 losses from maezumo to juryo was (and still is) hype-worthy. 

I'm amazed he managed to come back from the knee injuries and establish himself as a joi regular.

[Koorifuu 886]

3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

I just realized that Ura will finally make it to Komusubi after generating lots of hype eight years ago. I guess most have given up hope by now.

I'd never thought of him as sanyaku, myself. At this stage, I've already suffered from "Miss Them Only After They're Gone" syndrome too often in regards to unique rikishi, I'm determined to focus on enjoying Ura for as long as he sticks around.

[Jakusotsu 5,815]

49 minutes ago, RabidJohn said:

Is that a certainty? Only moving up to M1E seems possible, not that I GTB...

Unless they go soft on Wakamotoharu or prefer Atamifuji, which I don't see happening.

[Reonito 1,335]

4 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Unless they go soft on Wakamotoharu or prefer Atamifuji, which I don't see happening.

Over on the promotion/demotion thread, we consider Ura pretty much a certainty. It definitely won't be Wakamotoharu—they haven't done that since the 1950s and they've promoted records like 8-7 at M5 and 9-6 at M8 to komusubi over a 6-9 S.

[Morning 74]

Ura \O/

[Sumo Spiffy 535]

10 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Unless they go soft on Wakamotoharu or prefer Atamifuji, which I don't see happening.

I don't think it would have been Atami even if he'd won his last match, which would have given him an argument. Thankfully, he made it easy on us so we can be joyous for two months instead of two weeks.