Jakusotsu 5,806 Posted July 22, 2023 Do those Latin quotes have any relevance or are they just lorem ipsum? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankegami 412 Posted July 22, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Do those Latin quotes have any relevance or are they just lorem ipsum? Total lorem ipsum. I cannot find the "lorem ipsum" part itself but I'm positive that's taken from some piece of Latin literature. Either that, or "inventor of truth" (inventor veritatis) is for some reason part of Hoshoryu's unknown skills (UNKNOWN part of the chart there). Source: My five years of Italian Classical High School (our national version of Makushita). Edited July 22, 2023 by Hankegami 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,915 Posted July 22, 2023 55 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Do those Latin quotes have any relevance or are they just lorem ipsum? They look like total gibberish to me - probably autofill with the same sort of thing as lorem ipsum, but using different words so it's not as obvious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,244 Posted July 22, 2023 Does anyone know who this guy is? Scout for Tokugawa-beya? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,132 Posted July 22, 2023 By the way, all this talk of a Wakamotoharu henka is bizarre. He slightly touched Hoshoryu before being completely airborne to the side, so obviously that wasn't a henka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 582 Posted July 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, Katooshu said: By the way, all this talk of a Wakamotoharu henka is bizarre. He slightly touched Hoshoryu before being completely airborne to the side, so obviously that wasn't a henka Hoshoryu almost got a leg. Too bad he wasn't able to do an Ashitori. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted July 23, 2023 4 hours ago, visitor_22 said: Today at Miyagino beya... This might be the post of the year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted July 23, 2023 44 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said: This might be the post of the year. Except that we've already established that they didn't come up with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,768 Posted July 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Do those Latin quotes have any relevance or are they just lorem ipsum? Pain is to be lauded, doloremque laudantium could be the motto of Miyagino-beya, especially for Hakuoho and Kiho (and the 3 already dropped from sekitori/ 2 completely out) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 688 Posted July 23, 2023 6 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Do those Latin quotes have any relevance or are they just lorem ipsum? Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium doloremque laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 18 hours ago, Seiyashi said: but both of them are going to earn a talking to for pulling henkas in their bouts today. Mentioned in the PDY thread, but calling it: Basically Oguruma oyakata is so upset with Daieishō's and Wakamotoharu's henkas that he lost his appetite for dinner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 688 Posted July 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: Basically Oguruma oyakata is so upset with Daieishō's and Wakamotoharu's henkas that he lost his appetite for dinner. Oh horror! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) Sanshō out. Shukunshō (unconditional): Nishikigi (1st) Kantōshō (unconditional): Hokutofuji (1st) Hakuōhō (1st) Kantōshō (conditional on win): Hōshōryū (1st) Kotonowaka (4th) Gōnoyama (1st) Shōnnanoumi (1st) Ginōshō (unconditional) Hakuōhō (1st) Edited July 23, 2023 by Seiyashi 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Bunbukuchagama said: Oh horror! I mean, he has a lot of "reactionary old fart" moments, but by the numbers he was one of the best ōzeki. I don't begrudge him getting irritated with two ōzeki potentiates pulling henka back to back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,915 Posted July 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: Sanshō out. Shukunshō (unconditional): Nishikigi (1st) Kantōshō (unconditional): Hokutofuji (1st) Hakuōhō (1st) Kantōshō (conditional on win): Hōshōryū (1st) Kotonowaka (4th) Gōnoyama (1st) Shōnnanoumi (1st) Ginōshō (unconditional) Hakuōhō Considering none of those conditionals are facing each other, that could be a ton of Kantosho. But to be expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gurowake said: Considering none of those conditionals are facing each other, that could be a ton of Kantosho. But to be expected. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&form1_ks=on Record amount of kantōshō given out, if true. The previous max record was 3. We have a decent chance of not just matching that but going beyond. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&form1_ss=on&form1_ks=on&form1_gs=on We also have a decent chance of matching the number of sansho ever given out in one basho, 5. Edited July 23, 2023 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,915 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: Is this a record amount of kantōshō being given out? They've never given out more than 3 of the same type before. Kanto-sho has hit 3 on numerous occasions, other sansho only once. Edited July 23, 2023 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,915 Posted July 23, 2023 Also, the most total sansho they've ever given out before is 6. That's quite likely to be broken as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gurowake said: Also, the most total sansho they've ever given out before is 6. That's quite likely to be broken as well. DB query shows 5 in Haru 1994? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,806 Posted July 23, 2023 Also possibly seven different sansho winners in one basho. Hard to query, but that has to be a record as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,915 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: DB query shows 5 in Haru 1994? There's at least 2 basho with 6. Hatsu 1992 had 2 each. Hatsu 2020 had 6 spread differently. I'm not sure what you're querying, but it might be the number of disinct winners. Edited July 23, 2023 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gurowake said: There's plenty of basho with 6. I'm not sure what you're querying. Hatsu 1992 had 2 each. I know why now. It is indeed the number of distinct winners (w/o regard to how many each of them won) When all sanshō are selected on the query page, it returns the number of different rikishi who were awarded a sanshō, not the number of sanshō given out. Hatsu 1992 had the sanshō concentrated in Akebono and the Hanada Brothers, so it only returns 3. 11 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Also possibly seven different sansho winners in one basho. Hard to query, but that has to be a record as well. That query answers this question instead. The record seems to have been 5 separate sanshō winners in Haru 1994: 2K (Takatoriki and Terao), 2G (Oginishiki and Kotonishiki), and 1S (Kaiō). Matched also in Natsu 1998 and Hatsu 2020 (6 total prizes given out as Tokushōryū was given SK to go with the yūshō). Edited July 23, 2023 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,806 Posted July 23, 2023 Cheers. I thought checking all boxes yields only rikishi who won all of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) Also, if I didn't overlook someone else, Hakuōhō should be the youngest sanshō winner since Hakuhō himself (although this was done on a "likely suspects" basis as it's not easy to query). If he wins the yūshō, he should be the youngest yūshō winner since Takanohana II, and if the legal age for drinking hasn't changed since, will be the first since Takanohana II to not be able to drink the celebratory sake at the afterparty. Edited July 23, 2023 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,631 Posted July 23, 2023 This almost came up a couple of times before, but if Hakuoho were to yusho, it would be 109 years since a shin-nyumaku yusho. Ichinojo was the most memorable in recent years to almost get that yusho, foiled by Hakuoho's shisho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
