Nagoya 2023 discussion (results)

[Seiyashi 4,071]

1 minute ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

"Always hatakikomi" is too predictable of an approach to not be punished by opponents at some point. 

Which is exactly what Asashosakari was saying about Tomokaze fairly recently, to the effect that he would be surprised if Tomokaze became a joi mainstay as everyone was expecting.

Edited July 22, 2023 by Seiyashi

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

Look, Kinbozan is alive!

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

Wow, Hokutofuji almost had it!

[Kaninoyama 1,694]

Didn't realize it until now but Hakuoho is fighting from M17. It's a done deal. 

[robnplunder 974]

1 minute ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Wow, Hokutofuji almost had it!

That was a good match.  I was rooting for Hokutofuji but the rookie was simply dang good.  He is tied for the lead going into day 15 on his 4th basho.  Wow!  Just wow!

[Katooshu 3,135]

That ending was very reminiscent of one of Hakuho's wins over Hokutofuji. Both great counters from very vulnerable spots with Hokuto charging at them.

Being able to pull out wins in those situations is one of the signs of an excellent rikishi. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Katooshu

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

So, Hokuseiho got his well-deserved smack down the banzuke. 

[MrGrumpyGills 119]

Back to the drawing board, I guess. Being freakishly tall and leaning on people until they're worn down only gets you so far.

[robnplunder 974]

Watching Hokuseiho is more frustrating than watching Ichinojo.  

Edited July 22, 2023 by robnplunder

[Katooshu 3,135]

I wish Oho would stop retreating so much - this basho it's like he's doing an Aoiyama impression. He's powerful and can hold his own or better with most on the belt or when aggressively thrusting. Too many times he's just started backpeddling if his initial attack doesn't work immediately. 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Katooshu

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

1 minute ago, robnplunder said:

Watching Hokuseiho is more frustrating than watching Ichinojo.  

Actually, young Ichinojo took Makuuchi by storm. 13-2 JY and a Sekiwake promotion - Hokuseiho can only dream of such success. 

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

O'K, back to normal - Nishikigi no longer good. 

[Chartorenji 235]

10 bout streak for Ryuden, though that last one is about as close as it gets. 

[Chartorenji 235]

Just now, Bunbukuchagama said:

O'K, back to normal - Nishikigi no longer good. 

Clearly he's still a good rikishi, better then before. Just not as good as the hot streak he started the Basho with.

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

1 minute ago, Chartorenji said:

Clearly he's still a good rikishi, better then before. Just not as good as the hot streak he started the Basho with.

He probably caught a genie and wished to become good against sunyaku, but forgot about maegashira. 

[Kaninoyama 1,694]

Hokuseiho with his first makekoshi in 10 basho at his highest ever rank and everyone's writing him off. 

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

4 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said:

Hokuseiho with his first makekoshi in 10 basho at his highest ever rank and everyone's writing him off. 

Kinbozan had 0 MK in his career till recently, and everybody has forgotten about him already.

This is a "what have you done for me lately?" world. 

[Chartorenji 235]

A henka attempt during the second to last match in an Ozeki run is nuts lmao

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

Henka was not effective. 

[Kaninoyama 1,694]

Puzzling henka by Wakamotoharu. Even if he wins with it, it does nothing positive for his Ozeki promotion chances. 

On the other hand, if Hoshoryu wins tomorrow it will be difficult to deny him his well-deserved promotion. 

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Kaninoyama

[Akinomaki 39,802]

Now they only have to pair Hoshoryu with Hakuoho to ensure a 12 - 3 yusho. Otherwise the 11-4 playoff chance remains.

Edited July 22, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Chartorenji 235]

1 minute ago, Akinomaki said:

Now they only have to pair Hoshoryu with Hakuoho to ensure a 12 - 3 yusho. Otherwise the 11-4 playoff chance remains.

that's probs what they are gonna do, and as a fan of both, ugh. 

[visitor_22 27]

6 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Now they only have to pair Hoshoryu with Hakuoho to ensure a 12 - 3 yusho. Otherwise the 11-4 playoff chance remains.

Don't forget Hokutofuji. He is in 11-3 group too.

[Katooshu 3,135]

Let's get the Kotonowaka and Asanoyama hype going too - everyone's on an ozeki run!

[Seiyashi 4,071]

42 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

I wish Oho would stop retreating so much - this basho it's like he's doing an Aoiyama impression. He's powerful and can hold his own or better with most on the belt or when aggressively thrusting. Too many times he's just started backpeddling if his initial attack doesn't work immediately. 

Funnily enough, the observation regarding Shishi and chaos seems to also strike me regarding Ōhō. For someone with that much interest, he doesn't appear to really have any kind of signature in his sumo other than being generally aggressive.