808morgan 805 Posted July 20, 2023 6 hours ago, junsan said: What? How exactly? One could easily see that Tochinoshin was "done" before he actually got done. Compared to that all's well with Yasu. Papayasu looks done going for yushos etc.. I guess, he will hang around I bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 973 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) I think there may be some conflating happening with "Takayasu looks done" to "Takayasu IS done". He's out of contention this tournament and as stated earlier, the way he's losing is unlike him. He seems mentally defeated. I just want him to drop out and get his head/body right for September. Edited July 20, 2023 by Godango Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 Kanzaki is hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 973 Posted July 20, 2023 Now 1-5 at M15, I'm assuming there will only be one more bout in the ozumo career of Tokushoryu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,179 Posted July 20, 2023 Tomokaze moves to 10-2 and holds onto the sole lead in juryo. I love a good comeback story; glad to see him doing so well. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,212 Posted July 20, 2023 3 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said: It's not just a 6-day losing streak, it's the way he is losing. Other rikishi have posted horrible scores as well. Kotoekou has had 2-13 twice. Ryuden same score once. And the sumo hasn't been pretty. Are they done too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 207 Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Godango said: Now 1-5 at M15, I'm assuming there will only be one more bout in the ozumo career of Tokushoryu. Can't be determined at all. Tokushoryu voiced his wish to become Oyakata. He will probably hang on as long as he has to, until a kabu becomes available. Might be after the basho, might be in two years. With that dire kabu situation at the moment, I assume the latter (but hope for the former). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,873 Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Raishu said: Can't be determined at all. Indeed. Just look at Fujiazuma who is toiling endlessly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, Raishu said: Can't be determined at all. Tokushoryu voiced his wish to become Oyakata. He will probably hang on as long as he has to, until a kabu becomes available. Might be after the basho, might be in two years. With that dire kabu situation at the moment, I assume the latter (but hope for the former). At this rate, we might see a former yusho winner in Sandanme. How often did it happen before? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 Takayasu henka? He is truly desperate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted July 20, 2023 Gotta love Kotoeko! He beats Hokuseiho in a spirited match. The latter need to figure out how best to use that size of his. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, robnplunder said: Gotta love Kotoeko! He beats Hokuseiho in a spirited match. The latter need to figure out how best to use that size of his. Hokuseiho refuses to go lower. With his massive size, he could be unstoppable if he ever tried. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGrumpyGills 123 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said: Hokuseiho refuses to go lower. With his massive size, he could be unstoppable if he ever tried. With these long legs it has to be/feel awkward for him to go lower. Might be bad for the knees? Maybe he's trying to minimise risk of injury (?). Edited July 20, 2023 by MrGrumpyGills 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,644 Posted July 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, Raishu said: Can't be determined at all. Tokushoryu voiced his wish to become Oyakata. He will probably hang on as long as he has to, until a kabu becomes available. Might be after the basho, might be in two years. With that dire kabu situation at the moment, I assume the latter (but hope for the former). Toku may even be the favorite to take over Kise beya although the current oyakata doesn't reach retirement age for another 11 years Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leoben 126 Posted July 20, 2023 Man, imagine if Hokuseiho had that trademark Mongolian killer instinct... he would be an unstoppable monster. He'll get better over time but aggression and drive are not things you can teach, you either have them or you don't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Leoben said: Man, imagine if Hokuseiho had that trademark Mongolian killer instinct... he would be an unstoppable monster. He'll get better over time but aggression and drive are not things you can teach, you either have them or you don't. I wonder whether being raised in Japan made him "softer". Edited July 20, 2023 by Bunbukuchagama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 235 Posted July 20, 2023 Personally think it's the injury concern. Dude knows his legs are both a blessing and a curse, so is trying to minimize any potential damage (though personally I think they will go hurt either way.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 Is this the end of Nishikigi's Cinderella story? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,179 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Was it when you posted the exact same thing 6 days ago? He's still co-leader going into day 13, and yusho or not it's been a once in a life basho for him. And nice win for Shonannoumi, his impressive run of form has continued into makuuchi. Edited July 20, 2023 by Katooshu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Katooshu said: Was it when you posted the exact same thing 6 days ago? Yusho or not it's been a once in a life basho for him. It was a question back then the same way it is now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,179 Posted July 20, 2023 (edited) Ya, so what do you think? Considering he'll still be co-leader going into day 13 I'd say his story certainly isn't over, whether he wins it or not. Edited July 20, 2023 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 975 Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said: Is this the end of Nishikigi's Cinderella story? Not yet. It has gotten tougher though. He faces Hakuoho tomorrow. Not an easy task after a loss. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Katooshu said: Ya, so what do you think? Considering he'll still be co-leader going into day 13 I'd say his story certainly isn't over, whether he wins it or not. If it comes to a play-off, would you favour him against Hoshoryu, for example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,179 Posted July 20, 2023 No I wouldn't, but if he's in a playoff clearly his story won't have ended on day 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 701 Posted July 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, Katooshu said: No I wouldn't, but if he's in a playoff clearly his story won't have ended on day 12. You got me there, "beginning of the end" would be more appropriate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
