Natsu 2023 discussion (results)

[Chartorenji 238]

12 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Very quietly, almost secretly, Tamashouhou is emerging. He got his KK last basho while nursing an injury, 12 years in sumo slaving in makushita for 8 of them. With Tamawashi obviously injured and maybe closer to retirement, he looks like he will be leading the 3 rikishi heya for years to come, although he is already 30 years old. Anyhow, he's been doing great  sumo.

You'd think having a two time Yusho winner would entice some more recruits to join. 

[rhyen 1,842]

4 hours ago, Chartorenji said:

You'd think having a two time Yusho winner would entice some more recruits to join. 

If Izutsu couldn’t grow when they had Kakuryu…..

[rhyen 1,842]

Interesting, is the President’s Cup back on the trophy list for the G7?

[rhyen 1,842]

Kawazoe has a nice shiko like Abi. 

[rhyen 1,842]

These past 2 days have seen the Asanoyama fan club turn out in droves.

Yesterday, I counted about 80 towels, mainly on the West side Masu Seki seats.

Today, there are at least 150 towels in the masu seki seats on all four side. Add in at least another 70 towels upstairs in the chair seats.

[rhyen 1,842]

Takakeisho try to give the death stare to Ura who ignores it. 

[Akinomaki 40,670]

Kawazoe's leg is regenerating each time - only one last time necessary now.

The G7 are too early to stay till day 15, if the Natsu basho President's cup is still awarded remains to be seen, usually just by some embassy employee.

[rhyen 1,842]

59 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Kawazoe's leg is regenerating each time - only one last time necessary now.

The G7 are too early to stay till day 15, if the Natsu basho President's cup is still awarded remains to be seen, usually just by some embassy employee.

Check today’s Yaku mitsuru cartoon on nikkan sports

[rhyen 1,842]

I wonder how many users have retired with Ichinojo and Tochinoshin.

[Seiyashi 4,106]

6 minutes ago, rhyen said:

I wonder how many users have retired with Ichinojo and Tochinoshin.

I started with Tochinoshin's reascension, but I sure as hell aren't retiring. Just very pooped and lurking these few bashos as a result because life events. I haven't had the time to watch any sumo this basho, that's how bad it is.

I'll try and brush up fast for the PDY thread, but I'll be getting it up on Day 10 preferably. Apropos of that, if Chiyonokuni also retires as someone else suggested in Tochinoshin's retirement thread, then that'll be a bonanza for makushita.

Edited May 20, 2023 by Seiyashi

[RabidJohn 1,825]

Is Kiribayama injured? Or is all that going-backwards sumo just Kakuryu being a bad influence? Either way, I'm more impressed with Daieisho's and Wakamotoharu's sumo so far this basho.

I've a feeling Kinbozan joined a very limited-membership club today - of rikishi who've fought yokozuna before they had a chance to grow a proper oicho-mage.
Glad that Terunofuji was fit enough to give him a proper welcome to the musubi no ichiban!

[dingo 1,267]

Abi has got to be badly injured, he's mostly henkaing and moving backwards.

Shodai A showed up in full force today against Kiribayama, who once again resorted to reverse gear. (yes, I'm unashamedly nicking Kintamayama's excellent Kaisei description). 

Despite all his limping, hobbling and other troubles, Takakeisho is now 5-2, Not bad for someone who should be at home resting. Likewise Terunofuji has made it to 7-0 already without too much difficulty. Let's see what's ahead. 

[Rocks 1,809]

2 hours ago, RabidJohn said:

Is Kiribayama injured? Or is all that going-backwards sumo just Kakuryu being a bad influence? Either way, I'm more impressed with Daieisho's and Wakamotoharu's sumo so far this basho.

Nerves. I would say the Ozeki promotion is very much on his mind. With a good chance 9 will get it for him and 10 wins being a lock he's doing everything he can to not lose it as opposed to going out and winning it. 

[Rocks 1,809]

5 hours ago, rhyen said:

Takakeisho try to give the death stare to Ura who ignores it. 

Considering the way Sato has completed dominated him their entire careers Ura has little choice but to ignore it. 

[Tochinofuji 387]

I have to say, despite being a big Wakatakakage supporter, it seems I really have been sleeping on Wakamotoharu. I've been very impressed with his sumo thus far this basho.

[dingo 1,267]

1 hour ago, Tochinofuji said:

I have to say, despite being a big Wakatakakage supporter, it seems I really have been sleeping on Wakamotoharu. I've been very impressed with his sumo thus far this basho.

I think he's really managed to improve and distinguish himself in the last few basho. Until recently he was in the shadow of Wakatakakage. Wakamotoharu's rise has been slower than his brother's but quite steady. 

[Reonito 1,482]

8 hours ago, Rocks said:

Nerves. I would say the Ozeki promotion is very much on his mind. With a good chance 9 will get it for him and 10 wins being a lock he's doing everything he can to not lose it as opposed to going out and winning it. 

There hasn't been a modern Ozeki promotion with 9 wins in the final basho. Unless something extremely unusual happens, double digits are a must.

[Kaninoyama 1,802]

53 minutes ago, Reonito said:

There hasn't been a modern Ozeki promotion with 9 wins in the final basho. Unless something extremely unusual happens, double digits are a must.

In addition, the promotion-committee head (I forgot who it is) made it clear at the start of the basho that the content would also be a factor. So far I'd say that that content hasn't been impressive even in his wins, so he'd better pick that part up as well if he wants a drama-free promotion.  

Edited May 20, 2023 by Kaninoyama

[Rocks 1,809]

3 hours ago, Reonito said:

There hasn't been a modern Ozeki promotion with 9 wins in the final basho. Unless something extremely unusual happens, double digits are a must.

Yes, but it's still 32 wins with a Yusho and a Jun Yusho. I wouldn't be that surprised. Especially given there is only one Ozeki. At 27 Kiribayama isn't exactly a youngster either. 

[Reonito 1,482]

2 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Yes, but it's still 32 wins with a Yusho and a Jun Yusho. I wouldn't be that surprised. Especially given there is only one Ozeki. At 27 Kiribayama isn't exactly a youngster either. 

Zero chance, unless Takakeisho fails to get 8 and/or Terunofuji suddenly retires, and none of the other Sekiwake have a reasonable promotion case. Even ignoring precedent and the fact that Hakkaku said he needs 10, 9 would mean he drops 4 of his final 8 bouts, which won't look good. Just for the record, I hope and expect he'll get 10.

[dingo 1,267]

6 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

In addition, the promotion-committee head (I forgot who it is) made it clear at the start of the basho that the content would also be a factor. So far I'd say that that content hasn't been impressive even in his wins, so he'd better pick that part up as well if he wants a drama-free promotion.  

The content part seems like a usual half-empty kyokai statement, since they can't exactly say that ozeki doesn't have to do ozeki-like sumo. I expect the content part will be hand-waved once he gets enough wins. 

[Kintamayama 45,382]

Anyone wanna bet that that was Chiyonokuni's last bout?

[Rocks 1,809]

9 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Anyone wanna bet that that was Chiyonokuni's last bout?

Bet against it you mean? No I would not. 

[Jakusotsu 6,002]

BEST! HENKA! EVER!

Tsurugisho, you're my hero of the day.

[Kaninoyama 1,802]

Today's convincing win against Asanoyama should silence some of the Hokuseiho doubters.