Hankegami 412 Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) Good day, perhaps decisive for Terunofuji. I envisioned a loss of Asanoyama to Daieisho (the ex-Ozeki is not a machine, and has to face a very belligerent san'yaku), but I expected for Terunofui to lose too. Wakamotoharu is having a great basho and I believed he would have taken their discourse back to his Inosuke-doctored loss last July. Instead, Terunofuji gave a great show of Yokozuna power. I only hope that his knees keep up, he really had a bad fall from the dohyo. By the way, Mitakeumi is just one win away from his first KK in one year despite his typical poorer performance in the second week. I'm glad, this means that his slump has met a bottom finally. Anyway, what's up with the Banzuke Committee? I believe that Hiradoumi and Hokuseiho can call for help from human right associations against the treatment they are receiving in the pairings. I can understand sending Yusho contestant Meisei and Asanoyama up to meet the big boys, but the two poor sods at M9w and M11e were just trying to get a nice KK and are paired against people chasing Ozeki. Not to mention poor Tsurugisho. A guy cannot rack up 9 wins from M15w and gets paired with a freaking Sekiwake, and a good one to boot. Because he's clearly in Yusho contention (/sarcasm). Edited May 25, 2023 by Hankegami 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted May 25, 2023 49 minutes ago, Gospodin said: Not so, imo. I can imagine he voted out of principle against his son You obviously weren't around for the first couple of mono-ii decisions when both were involved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,665 Posted May 25, 2023 Ura's gymnast sense of balance is amazing. Looked to me like the deciding factor after that lengthy pat-a-cake session with Tobizaru. I'm thrilled that Kiribayama secured his ozeki promotion with a decisive win over the incumbent. 13-2 doesn't look beyond him atm. Terunofuji jarred them knackered knees badly today; he was obviously in pain after the bout with Wakamotoharu. I'm also wondering if he'll get out of bed tomorrow... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junsan 170 Posted May 25, 2023 Kitanowaka got away with a blatant hairpull. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 187 Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said: You obviously weren't around for the first couple of mono-ii decisions when both were involved. I can´t remember them. He favored his boy ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,160 Posted May 25, 2023 On 24/05/2023 at 12:04, junsan said: Wakamotoharu with the MOVE OF THE BASHO~! Overtaken today by Ura, I'd wager. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,160 Posted May 25, 2023 Some other observations from today: A 200 kg jumping henka from Mitoryuu, that's something new. How was Nishikigi vs Kotonowaka not a redo I'll never understand. I can sort of see the logic behind giving Nishikigi the win but I vehemently disagree with it. Hoshoryuu just taught everyone in Makuuchi a masterclass in how to break Hokuseiho's grip and beat him. In the following bashos we'll see how many rikishi paid attention. Wakamotoharu almost had Terunofuji there. Great bout. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted May 25, 2023 47 minutes ago, dingo said: Some other observations from today: A 200 kg jumping henka from Mitoryuu, that's something new. And that was after the first bout when Takarafuji tippytoed the dawara while Mitoryu step out at the same time? Hoshoryu showed that one should just get inside and start oshiing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted May 25, 2023 Anyone feeling excited for Juryo. The 5 rikishi chasing promotion are all Japanese and young. Gonoyama, Shounanoumi (both confirmed), Ochiai, Bushozan, Atamifuji are just chewing up everyone else. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
visitor_22 27 Posted May 25, 2023 Sorry guys, but how many Wins Ochiai needs to get promoted to Makuuchi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted May 25, 2023 26 minutes ago, visitor_22 said: Sorry guys, but how many Wins Ochiai needs to get promoted to Makuuchi? You're formally invited to the thread where we discuss that (and yusho races across all divisions)! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 187 Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, rhyen said: And that was after the first bout when Takarafuji tippytoed the dawara while Mitoryu step out at the same time? The "exits" of both cries for a caption 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 807 Posted May 25, 2023 If Tsurugisho doesn't get a Fighting Spirit prize then there is no justice. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,922 Posted May 25, 2023 6 hours ago, Hankegami said: Not to mention poor Tsurugisho. A guy cannot rack up 9 wins from M15w and gets paired with a freaking Sekiwake, and a good one to boot. Because he's clearly in Yusho contention (/sarcasm). He is in Yusho contention though. I hope you're not one of the same people who complain about how easy it is for guys at the bottom of the banzuke to win the Yusho, because not matching them up against tougher when they're 2 behind with 3 days left certainly makes it more likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fashiritētā 169 Posted May 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gurowake said: He is in Yusho contention though. I hope you're not one of the same people who complain about how easy it is for guys at the bottom of the banzuke to win the Yusho, because not matching them up against tougher when they're 2 behind with 3 days left certainly makes it more likely. Cue Tokushoryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,922 Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) Hiradoumi is getting completely screwed with 2 matches against Sekiwake before he's gotten a KK. The matches against Asanoyama and Tsurugisho are perfectly normal, but moving him up before he gets his 8th win, and now twice, is rather unusual. He better get a couple of guys doing awful for his last two matches to make up for it. Don't tell me that the Sekiwake have no one better to face - there's plenty of people ranked ahead of him that don't have MKs yet. Edited May 25, 2023 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 3,922 Posted May 25, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ryafuji said: If Tsurugisho doesn't get a Fighting Spirit prize then there is no justice. I would imagine he'd have to get at least 10 wins first. On that topic, Meisei seemed like a shoo-in for a Shukun-Sho after his defeat of Terunofuji to give him a KK, but he's not making as good of a case with 3 straight losses against maegashira. While a KK and a win against a Yokozuna competing for the Yusho (if not the winner), should still be enough, there might be someone else (Asanoyama, Kiribayama) that will look so much better to get the Shukun-Sho should they beat Terunofuji that Meisei could easily be ignored. Edited May 25, 2023 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankegami 412 Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gurowake said: He is in Yusho contention though. I hope you're not one of the same people who complain about how easy it is for guys at the bottom of the banzuke to win the Yusho, because not matching them up against tougher when they're 2 behind with 3 days left certainly makes it more likely. I have a God-of-Sumo-given right to be incoherent at will, like basically everyone in this forum (Actually no, as long as they are paired up from Day 11 and later on). Anyway, I doubt anyone believes that Tsurugisho is a serious contender. Sure, I fondly recall Tokushoryu and all, but Tsurugisho was just jeeted from a match against Hiradoumi (M9w) right into Wakamotoharu's food bowl. A intermediate match against Meisei would have made more sense also whenever considering that the pairings were made before Day 12 started. Meisei and Tsurugisho were both 8-3 and joint third place after Day 11. But that's it. I guess he will get a couple of bad days for having the gallay of getting 9 wins that soon, and thereafter sent back to round up his score against the lower ranks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 688 Posted May 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Hankegami said: Anyway, what's up with the Banzuke Committee? You mean torikumi committee? Let's reserve ridiculing banzuke committee for off-season weeks when there is little else to do. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted May 25, 2023 7 hours ago, Gospodin said: I can´t remember them. He favored his boy ? Short answer without bothering to collect the facts: yes, at least twice, and it caused some murmuring around here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hakutorizakura 590 Posted May 25, 2023 Entertaining day! Wonder if Ura's move accidental or deliberate. Fun bout in any case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 327 Posted May 25, 2023 6 minutes ago, hakutorizakura said: Entertaining day! Wonder if Ura's move accidental or deliberate. Fun bout in any case. Sometimes exotic kimarite just seem to be the result of a wrestler going with the flow and doing what comes naturally (Terutsoyoshi comes to mind), but here Ura ducked under, buried his head in, and finished off with that beautiful flourish. I'm sure it was deliberate! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 327 Posted May 25, 2023 Some odd matchups tomorrow, which I think means they won't be able to complete a round robin of the top three ranks. It would have been nice to see that given they're all doing so well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fashiritētā 169 Posted May 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, Octofuji said: Sometimes exotic kimarite just seem to be the result of a wrestler going with the flow and doing what comes naturally (Terutsoyoshi comes to mind), but here Ura ducked under, buried his head in, and finished off with that beautiful flourish. I'm sure it was deliberate! Watching Ura fall immediately after Tobizaru and both having a smile on their faces, priceless 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 384 Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Bunbukuchagama said: You mean torikumi committee? Let's reserve ridiculing banzuke committee for off-season weeks when there is little else to do. To be fair, it's the same people. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
