New recruits Natsu 2023

[Akinomaki 40,230]

25 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Futagoyama and Musashigawa in the 1990s come to mind.

A bit reverse though, Futagoyama was that big after Fujishima absorbed his brother's heya. Nishonoseki might soon break up, with Nakamura taking Nakamura with him.

[Akinomaki 40,230]

Nakamura arrived at Nishonoseki-beya in Osaka today and will take part in training tomorrow https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2023/03/23/kiji/20230323s00005000366000c.html

- it is actually is against the NSK policy of not having those who take part in graduation ceremonies join a heya during the Haru basho - maybe it took so long because Nakamura had to show he had no virus from the ceremony a week ago before he could go to Osaka.

Nakamura expressed his relief that it was decided at last and says "and it is also the/a heya I wanted to join" - we'll never know if he had to be convinced by his main coach to join a Nittaidai approved heya

o

the shisho is really happy of course

Edited March 23, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Seiyashi 4,072]

25 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

I'm just happy it's not Miyagino.

Is it weird that I wanted him to join Miyagino, until he made such a drama out of which heya he was joining? Hakuhō would love to have a deshi of his calibre, but not necessarily of his profile - he has enough to deal with already.

[mikawa 1,794]

Nakamura vs Ochiai, ex-Kisenosato vs ex-Hakuho. This rivalry should be good!

[dingo 1,235]

After all this drama, now watch Nakamura peak out at Sekiwake 

I'm quite happy it was Nishonoseki though. 

[Chartorenji 235]

While I feel Miyagino has the better cast of wrestlers, this is still a huge get an a rivalry starter with the history between Ochiai and Nakamura. That and both being Oyakata positioned for success in the NHK makes it all the more interesting

[Raishu 208]

So we can assume he was personally recruited by ex-Kisenosato (not by former Nittaidai graduate Yoshikaze) and would stay at Nishonoseki in case Nakamura-beya was to be established eventually?

Edited March 23, 2023 by Raishu
Nakamura beya, not just Nakamura

[Akinomaki 40,230]

2 hours ago, Raishu said:

So we can assume he was personally recruited by ex-Kisenosato (not by former Nittaidai graduate Yoshikaze) and would stay at Nishonoseki in case Nakamura was to be established eventually?

I wouldn't say he was recruited, he chose a heya. Nishonoseki himself has no connection with Nittaidai, he was the one to appear with Nakamura because he is the shisho of the heya and Nakamura already is at the heya.

We have no mention yet of the reason Nakamura selected this place.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Hankegami 454]

I wouldn't give much weight to Nakamura's words, he cannot certainly say he was forced to choose Nihonoseki or something like that. We talked extensively in this thread about the connections between Nittidai and the Nihonoseki ichimon, and also about rumors of Nakamura trying to be taken by a different heya than Nihonoseki or Naruto. It's very possible he simply decided to remain in good relationship with his sponsors at Nittidai by choosing a heya of their preference. Also, he surely followed Ochiai's trailblazing debut in Makushita and possibly decided he did want a place with a spotlight all for himself.

In short, I do not doubt he's satisfied with his final choice (ex-Kisenosato really invested in his modern heya), but I would take his "and it is also the heya I wanted to join" with a pinch or two or salt.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Hankegami

[Seiyashi 4,072]

Well, as pointed out by Akinomaki and Herouth, he has two teammates at Nishonoseki. I think that was the overriding choice above everything else.

[hakutorizakura 610]

I'm usually oblivious about newcomers, so when people talk about Daiki Nakamura I thought it was Hokutofuji, who has exactly the same name 

[Inside Sport Japan 762]

5 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Is it weird that I wanted him to join Miyagino, until he made such a drama out of which heya he was joining? Hakuhō would love to have a deshi of his calibre, but not necessarily of his profile - he has enough to deal with already.

No drama from him. All external - and yes, we're as much to blame as anyone.

11 minutes ago, hakutorizakura said:

I'm usually oblivious about newcomers, so when people talk about Daiki Nakamura I thought it was Hokutofuji, who has exactly the same name 

Different kanji.

[Seiyashi 4,072]

1 minute ago, Inside Sport Japan said:

No drama from him. All external - and yes, we're as much to blame as anyone.

I could be mistaken, but however aspiring a recruit, one does not normally make multiple statements saying he'll announce the heya, right?

Or do you mean it's the media pushing him for intervews and disclosure?

[Koorifuu 924]

Nice buzzcut. That paves the way for history to be made - we want a mullet in sanyaku.

But more seriously, this is politically shrewd and makes sense from a long term point of view. He's positioning himself to be the standard bearer for the guy who's slated to rule the NSK for the foreseeable future, there's got to be tons of written & unwritten perks to gain from there.

[Inside Sport Japan 762]

31 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

I could be mistaken, but however aspiring a recruit, one does not normally make multiple statements saying he'll announce the heya, right?

He didn’t make any such statement that we are aware of.

The announcement about today’s press release came to us through the usual channels. 

Media in many sports normally get advance notice of press conferences, and releases to give them time to have people present, prep the stories etc. 

Generally we don’t announce them in advance unless it’s for something significant.

The problem seems to be certain people on social media outlets who don’t understand how all that works and are incorrectly accusing Nakamura of generating drama. 
 

 

[Raishu 208]

2 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

I wouldn't say he was recruited, he chose a heya. Nishonoseki himself has no connection with Nittaidai, he was the one to appear with Nakamura because he is the shisho of the heya and Nakamura already is at the heya.

We have no mention yet of the reason Nakamura selected this place.

Fair enough, maybe "recruited" is the wrong term here, more like "convinced by".

Also I edited my post, because I forgot to put the "beya" behind Nakamura. What I meant is, that if ex-Yoshikaze eventually succeeds to found his own Nakamura-beya (Geez, the name really makes it hard here), would Nakamura (the rikishi) follow him, since both share the same alma mater. 

Yoshikaze brought a good amount of rikishi to Nishonoseki when Oguruma beya dissolved and I expect them all to follow him, when and if he opens his own stable. 

[Katooshu 3,182]

Nakamura was such a college hotshot that inevitably people were far more eager to know his heya choice than they are for most prospects. I think that led people to generate the drama for him. Obviously I don't know him personally, but from what I've seen of him since middle school, he seems a laid back person and not prone to theatrics or pretensions. 

Nishonoseki was the overwhelming choice in the poll we had on the matter, so it's not a big surprise. My reasons for favouring it as his choice were 1) his high school + college teammates/friends Kayo and Takahashi are there and he's had great success with them as training partners 2) Kise had been donating to the Nittaidai club and appearing there more lately 3) there is a strong Nittaidai presence in the heya already and were reports that Nishonoseki was one of the stables favoured by his college coach, and 4) the talent level in the heya is solid and they have no glaring injury issues (he's talked often about the importance of being healthy).

Granted, his own thought process may be completely different, but the choice makes sense to me and I think Nisohonseki is a good heya, so I'm happy to see that's what he's chosen (Nishonoseki or Miyagino were what I hoped for). I'm also glad he didn't end up in Naruto, which I like as a heya but has far too many injury issues.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Katooshu

[Akinomaki 40,230]

Local NHK news clip, with footage of an interview from last December, when he still didn't know at which basho he'll start

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Nishonoseki, who also was a tall rikishi with long legs, thinks that if he can teach him what he did, Nakamura's future is something to look forward to. He doesn't want him to care for speedy promotions and to rather forge his body (which Nakamura pointed out as very important for him in December) and do the things that have to be done

A recap of what Nakamura said and when he said nothing - and a mention of the rumours that fired up the discussion

On 14/12/2022 at 20:42, Akinomaki said:

Amateur yokozuna in a row Daiki Nakamura: "There's only sumo for me. I quickly want to become sekitori." He said he'll decide after a talk with Nittaidai head coach Saito and his parents, joining after graduation, for Haru or for Natsu. His university, Nittaidai, Nippon sports science university, is likely the key connection for where he joins, and also his Kaiyo high school.

On 21/12/2022 at 23:47, Akinomaki said:

This tabloid reports that Nittaidai wants him to join Naruto or Nishonoseki, but that he prefers another heya. https://www.asagei.com/excerpt/239716

On 17/02/2023 at 12:07, Akinomaki said:

No, still no decision by the main Nakamura, the news clip still only mentions that several heya have approached him

Today he got one of the sports awards from Niigata prefecture and talked about his ozumo future: "I can't use the word yokozuna that easily, but everybody aims for that, I'll join a world where one can aim for that, anyhow the objective is to reach sekitori as early as possible" (but for that he should have joined for Haru) o

On 06/03/2023 at 20:10, Akinomaki said:

he said he is sure where he wants to go, he wants to talk it over with the Nittaidai coach and announce it. He already wants to be at that heya for the Haru basho

Edited March 23, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 40,230]

Nothing in the main tabloids yet, tabloid related ZakZak titles "Like while active, ex-Kisenosato puts a stop to Hakuho's solo run" - then the winning streak on the dohyo at 63, now the winning streak in recruiting the biggest talents.

No details about the intra-oyakata battle for Nakamura, just what we all know: that there was one and that other oyakata complained about the concentration of talents in one heya, which deprives the fans of many interesting torikumi. o

 

Nakamura plans to have his sumo-entry press conference after the basho. o

- definitely also to announce his shikona

Edited March 24, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Seiyashi 4,072]

27 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

definitely also to announce his shikona

In before Kisenosato II. 

[Akinomaki 40,230]

4 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

In before Kisenosato II. 

Should we create a short topic about Nakamura's future shikona, like we have for Ochiai?

[Yamanashi 3,795]

5 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Should we create a short topic about Nakamura's future shikona, like we have for Ochiai?

The other one was short?

[Seiyashi 4,072]

2 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

The other one was short?

The topic may have been but some of the posts were not. 

[yorikiried by fate 2,010]

On 23/03/2023 at 07:54, mikawa said:

Nakamura vs Ochiai, ex-Kisenosato vs ex-Hakuho. This rivalry should be good!

So you expect the "rivalry" to finish at 2-45?

 

This thread, while thrilling, offers so many opportunities for cheap banter in the direction of Kisenosato, it's not funny anymore.

So I will take care to shut up, as I'm not a fan...

Edited March 28, 2023 by yorikiried by fate

[Yamanashi 3,795]

48 minutes ago, yorikiried by fate said:

So you expect the "rivalry" to finish at 2-45?

 

This thread, while thrilling, offers so many opportunities for cheap banter in the direction of Kisenosato, it's not funny anymore.

So I will take care to shut up, as I'm not a fan...

"Remember, Kisenosato was almost an assistant Oyakata at times; he coached Takayasu into a strong rikishi who could close the deal when the Yusho was on the line." -- ChatGPT