Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 6, 2022 After 13 years, I may be finally closed down . I got my first-ever copyright strike-two more and 13 years of work go out the window. Truth be told, my viewership has dwindled considerably and I have been thinking of retiring lately, (as I have for the last 13 years..), but didn't want to go this way. Anyway, we shall see. 1 4 36 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 953 Posted December 6, 2022 THAT'S A SHAME ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,135 Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) Who initiated the strike? One strike is pretty normal for a popular channel, where it runs into problems is people abusing the system and continually targeting someone. Edited December 6, 2022 by Katooshu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 6, 2022 51 minutes ago, Katooshu said: Who initiated the strike? One strike is pretty normal for a popular channel, where it runs into problems is people abusing the system and continually targeting someone. Kyokai, only Kyokai channel stuff (interviews translated) were hit. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muhomatsu 224 Posted December 6, 2022 Those guys make such bad business decisions.... Its almost as if they do not want any foreign viewership. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 372 Posted December 7, 2022 I must say, while there are other options for watching a basho, I choose your uploads every time and have since you were the only option. Hoping you can continue, but either way I can't thank you enough for all you have done for the international sumo community. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,160 Posted December 7, 2022 That sucks! Could it be that with the new english Sumo Prime Time channel the kyokai is stepping up its patrolling? The timing doesn't fully add up, but still. Not knowing much about hosting a YouTube channel, would it be an option to hide or remove the interviews and leave only the basho content there? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,770 Posted December 7, 2022 One option is to continue at a new channel and leave and preserve the old channel as is, adding only safe contents from now on 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Akinomaki said: One option is to continue at a new channel and leave and preserve the old channel as is, adding only safe contents from now on What is safe content? That is the question. If not putting up the daily bouts, I have no purpose. I'm not in Japan, so I have no access to anything, like that guy for instance.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,770 Posted December 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: What is safe content? That is the question. If not putting up the daily bouts, I have no purpose. I'm not in Japan, so I have no access to anything, like that guy for instance.. Your comment videos before the basho are safe, you have to become YouTuber and post talk with others, like Gagamaru with Amuru or Takatoriki with Takagenji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,770 Posted December 7, 2022 And you could post at first to a new channel, what gets no copyright strike can be posted to your proper channel after the basho or after a short while Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Your comment videos before the basho are safe, you have to become YouTuber and post talk with others, like Gagamaru with Amuru or Takatoriki with Takagenji I'd love to, but the maximum I can do is interview myself about sumo. Without the bouts, it's kaput. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Akinomaki said: And you could post at first to a new channel, what gets no copyright strike can be posted to your proper channel after the basho or after a short while Good idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 7, 2022 The strike came more than two years after I posted the video, so time has no meaning.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,770 Posted December 7, 2022 The guy who posts the complete Abema broadcast for all days and for several basho now has some video game characters dancing on the screen to confuse the copyright check, maybe something like this can help Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morningstar 118 Posted December 7, 2022 If the strikes are just against your translations of interviews, then you should file a counter-notice. Because your translations are transformative (i.e. changing the language), about something that is in the public interest (i.e. newsworthy), and non-commercial (you are not monetized I think), you have an argument for fair use. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 8, 2022 12 hours ago, Morningstar said: If the strikes are just against your translations of interviews, then you should file a counter-notice. Because your translations are transformative (i.e. changing the language), about something that is in the public interest (i.e. newsworthy), and non-commercial (you are not monetized I think), you have an argument for fair use. I’m not sure waking sleeping dogs is a good idea. I think I’ll just hope for the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muhomatsu 224 Posted December 8, 2022 I am still not sure why they would come after you - because your audience and value addition does not really impact their product. The top matches are always available for free and summaries are broadcast for free as well. Your value add is the shorter summary video with some very entertaining comments. As far as I am aware, you have not monetized this. You have only expanded the viewership of the sport beyond the territorial confines of the long archipelago. And guess what, that exposure made many of us want to get tickets to a basho, to attend sumo events in Japan, to buy sumo goods. In other words, create revenue streams that would otherwise not exist. When they were selling the viewing plans, what was it - super expense (over a few hundred per basho?). And the only added value was the ability to watch the lower rankers - since you could see the top divisions for free on TV. They clearly have no idea what they are doing. They should be asking you how to obtain your fan base and engaging with you to help support the development of an international audience, like the one you have cultivated. I know I am greedy for saying so, but even among all the other scandals, I am very pissed by the way the Kyokai treats its foreign fans. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 9, 2022 No monetization ever. Nhk hasn’t complained, which is why mine and others’ highlights are mostly left alone. Why the Kyokai of all people has taken the translations down is Beyoncé. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted December 9, 2022 Filed by the NSK or by someone on behalf of the NSK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,809 Posted December 9, 2022 Maybe they are becoming more proactive since they have launched the official YouTube channel and a English equivalent channel? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hidenotora 63 Posted December 9, 2022 It'd be a huge shame if the channel got shut down, it's probably the only way to watch a lot of specific matches and basho. I've downloaded all the videos on there (I think anyway) as a backup, have you got a backup at all Kinta? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Rofl 4 Posted December 9, 2022 So sad, I still have hopes you find a way to go on. I like your videos and specially you comments. Your humor is very enjoyable. I miss your basho preview videos filmed in your (living?)room. I started following sumo back in 1998-1999 when eurosport broadcasted the basho in a 5 day summarry. I had to look it up. I remember Akebono vs Takanohana vs Wakanohana as yokozuna and Musashimaru as Ozeki and for example Toki with huge sideburns. After eurosport quit broadcasting a lost track of it. When I went for a business trip to Japan, in Januari 2012, my local contact took me to the Ryogoku Kokugikan on walking distance from his office and I loved it instant again. That same basho I discovered kintamayama channel and since then never missed any video. In 2014, 2015 and 2018 I went back to Japan and visited at least one day live the the venue. Hopefully the rights holder realizes that by shutting down this channel the lose a fast amount of oversees fans. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,901 Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Since Kintamayama is a known name in the sumo world, isn't there anybody inside or close the NSK who could ask the head-honchos to leave you alone, if it gets worse? Not tell, just humbly ask? Edited December 9, 2022 by Benihana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,350 Posted December 9, 2022 12 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Filed by the NSK or by someone on behalf of the NSK? NSK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites