Chiyotairyu retires, will leave sumo entirely

[Asapedroryu 227]

1 hour ago, just_some_guy said:

Indeed. Did anyone other than Baruto (whose MMA career was quite short) do anything but terribly? I'm drawing a blank.

Takayoshitoshi is currently 8-3. No idea about the opponents value, but numbers are not bad

[Asashosakari 18,786]

21 hours ago, just_some_guy said:

Indeed. Did anyone other than Baruto (whose MMA career was quite short) do anything but terribly? I'm drawing a blank.

Sentoryu wasn't great, but at least good enough to get continued match offers for a while.

[Koorifuu 886]

21 hours ago, Asapedroryu said:

Takayoshitoshi is currently 8-3. No idea about the opponents value, but numbers are not bad

Very low. There's only a couple of minimally impressive wins under his belt.

He's beaten the following:

• Two puroresu guys with no MMA experience
• One guy who used to be competent... over 20 years ago
• One foreign tarento
• One elderly freak show with minimal MMA skills
• One professional scaffolder who started on his 30's
• One popular punching bag in the South Korean scene
• One actual legit fighter, but past his prime, and who made 0-3 in UFC - serving as cannon fodder to real half-prospects in minor events
  • Make of that "cannon fodder to make prospects look good" experience what you will

Edited January 10 by Koorifuu

[WAKATAKE 2,631]

On 10/01/2024 at 05:32, Koorifuu said:

Very low. There's only a couple of minimally impressive wins under his belt.

He's beaten the following:

• Two puroresu guys with no MMA experience
• One guy who used to be competent... over 20 years ago
• One foreign tarento
• One elderly freak show with minimal MMA skills
• One professional scaffolder who started on his 30's
• One popular punching bag in the South Korean scene
• One actual legit fighter, but past his prime, and who made 0-3 in UFC - serving as cannon fodder to real half-prospects in minor events
  • Make of that "cannon fodder to make prospects look good" experience what you will

Is one of these Bob Sapp?

[Tochinofuji 372]

30 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said:

Is one of these Bob Sapp?

No:

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/271208-tsuyoshi-sudario-takanofuji-sanzo

In the dedicated MMA thread, I put my take on him as follows:

" ... He'll be a passable sideshow heavyweight in the mostly domestic scene. But for him being an ex-rikishi, you likely wouldn't hear of him. I don't anticipate him "making it" and moving internationally to One, Bellator, and certainly not the UFC. He simply doesn't have the skills or athleticism. I also don't see him taking a Rizin championship, but the heavyweight division in a lot of Japanese organizations tends to be very thin. 

Not that there is anything wrong with any of that in the slightest. Just like "only" making it to Juryo isn't something to sneer at, having your name known as a fighter regionally is nothing to scoff at. I don't like the guy given his attitude, but I certainly respect his willingness to get into the MMA ring and compete. He may be being fed some cans, and there's always the spectre of matchfixing, but for the most part he's throwing down with guys looking to knock him out, and that takes some guts. "

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[Koorifuu 886]

11 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

Is one of these Bob Sapp?

The two you highlighted are Minowaman and Hideki Sekine (Japan's Jimmy Ambriz), respectively.

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Back on topic, what exactly is this "brawling" they do in this program? If it's something like a bar brawl and pushing others into walls & tables is a thing, then an ex-rikishi will definitely have more of an advantage than they would with MMA rules.

Edited January 12 by Koorifuu

[Kaninoyama 1,694]

9 hours ago, Koorifuu said:

The two you highlighted are Minowaman and Hideki Sekine (Japan's Jimmy Ambriz), respectively.

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Back on topic, what exactly is this "brawling" they do in this program? If it's something like a bar brawl and pushing others into walls & tables is a thing, then an ex-rikishi will definitely have more of an advantage than they would with MMA rules.

I actually started watching this Breaking Down series after reading the Chiyotairyu post and investigating. It's a fighting format created by Mikuru Asakura, one of Japan's top MMA fighters and an active YouTuber, aimed at amateurs & aspiring fighters, and actually quite entertaining.

Basically, there are auditions, which we saw Chiyotairyu take part in, where aspiring amateurs audition to get a spot in the fight event, which features single 1-minute rounds. The idea is that the participants go all out for a single round, refined fighting skills or elite training not required, and actually makes for some entertaining fights.

The series mostly attracts young Japanese riff raff, street thugs, and the like, as well as a few serious aspiring fighters looking to make a name for themselves. At the auditions, fights break out regularly as one guy will call another out. And if a fight breaks out during the audition, they have a cage set up on site so the those involved can fight on the spot (again, a single 1-minute round), settle their grudge, and prove who should be on the next card.

It's actually a clever way to generate interest in the event, and these videos get millions of views.

Edited January 13 by Kaninoyama

[Koorifuu 886]

20 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

I actually started watching this Breaking Down series after reading the Chiyotairyu post and investigating. It's a fighting format created by Mikuru Asakura, one of Japan's top MMA fighters and an active YouTuber, aimed at amateurs & aspiring fighters, and actually quite entertaining.

Basically, there are auditions, which we saw Chiyotairyu take part in, where aspiring amateurs audition to get a spot in the fight event, which features single 1-minute rounds. The idea is that the participants go all out for a single round, refined fighting skills or elite training not required, and actually makes for some entertaining fights.

The series mostly attracts young Japanese riff raff, street thugs, and the like, as well as a few serious aspiring fighters looking to make a name for themselves. At the auditions, fights break out regularly as one guy will call another out. And if a fight breaks out during the audition, they have a cage set up on site so the those involved can fight on the spot (again, a single 1-minute round), settle their grudge, and prove who should be on the next card.

It's actually a clever way to generate interest in the event, and these videos get millions of views.

Oh, so it really is MMA, but super short. That's not too good for him if he's against trained fighters on pretty much other discipline, but his physical prowess alone should serve him well against riff raff.

Thanks for the explanation - it doesn't sound too Japanese at all, times are truly changing.

[Kaninoyama 1,694]

2 hours ago, Koorifuu said:

Oh, so it really is MMA, but super short. That's not too good for him if he's against trained fighters on pretty much other discipline, but his physical prowess alone should serve him well against riff raff.

Thanks for the explanation - it doesn't sound too Japanese at all, times are truly changing.

Yeah, the super-short format can only help him since it brings the contest closer to a sumo bout length. He'll have about 70 kilos on his opponent, who is an experienced MMA fighter, so win or lose it should be an interesting minute of action!