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Chiyotairyu retires, will leave sumo entirely

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2 hours ago, chishafuwaku said:

I don't remember drinking alcohol that day

If you don't remember, then maybe you did?

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3 hours ago, chishafuwaku said:

I don't remember drinking alcohol that day (Thinkingindepth...)

Should I be worried? 

Not at all. I always wanted to kick him for not being Ozeki already.

Says the guy who does drink alcohol every day. (Sigh...)

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From the Press conference:

He asked to retire after September but Kokonoe convinced him to continue. "If you train hard enough, you'll succeed," said the Oyakata then. "I have no regrets. I know deep inside I gave 100 percent.   My day 7 bout against Aoiyama  and the feeling that I could not generate any power and got blasted out caused me to decide finally. I did not want to continue showing shameful sumo. I'd like to thank my support group and the okamisan who, whatever happened, up or down, never ceased to support me. I'd like to somehow return the favor now. I hope to open a yakiniku restaurant because I like meat... Diet first, though.." he said.

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8 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

From the Press conference:

He asked to retire after September but Kokonoe convinced him to continue. "If you train hard enough, you'll succeed," said the Oyakata then. "I have no regrets. I know deep inside I gave 100 percent.   My day 7 bout against Aoiyama  and the feeling that I could not generate any power and got blasted out caused me to decide finally. I did not want to continue showing shameful sumo. I'd like to thank my support group and the okamisan who, whatever happened, up or down, never ceased to support me. I'd like to somehow return the favor now. I hope to open a yakiniku restaurant because I like meat... Diet first, though.." he said.

So it was an epiphany. 

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Shame that he's leaving sumo so suddenly during the basho. He was one of the absolute rank-and-file makuuchi mainstays, only very briefly dipping his toe into juryo a few times over the years and I'll miss his presence.

On a side note, it's somehow nice that he's opening something other than a chanko-nabe restaurant. I actually kinda feel like next time I'm in Japan I should do a Tokyo former rikishi restaurant tour. I don't know if anyone has a big list of former sumo wrestler restaurants anywhere, but I'm sure you can make a nice long route by now.

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1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

He has acquired the  Chiyoretiryuu kebab.

From Komusubi to Kombüse (kitchen on a ship)

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19 minutes ago, dada78641 said:

Shame that he's leaving sumo so suddenly during the basho. He was one of the absolute rank-and-file makuuchi mainstays, only very briefly dipping his toe into juryo a few times over the years and I'll miss his presence.

On a side note, it's somehow nice that he's opening something other than a chanko-nabe restaurant. I actually kinda feel like next time I'm in Japan I should do a Tokyo former rikishi restaurant tour. I don't know if anyone has a big list of former sumo wrestler restaurants anywhere, but I'm sure you can make a nice long route by now.


@akinomaki, there should be one more thread, right?

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11 hours ago, rhyen said:


@akinomaki, there should be one more thread, right?

The old thread

The 2nd career one is not about food and the threads contain no lists of restaurants but present some

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I wonder how Aoiyama feels about that. Wow I hit him so hard to knock sense into him, or wow I’m the bar that rikishi compare their performance against retirement

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38 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

I wonder how Aoiyama feels about that. Wow I hit him so hard to knock sense into him, or wow I’m the bar that rikishi compare their performance against retirement

Yeah it must be a very strange feeling.

Aoiyama strikes me as a very inconsistent yardstick to base this kind of decision on, if Chiyotairyu had met him on another day the consequences could have been very different. But it sounds like he had made up his mind anyway.

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1 minute ago, Octofuji said:
47 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

I wonder how Aoiyama feels about that. Wow I hit him so hard to knock sense into him, or wow I’m the bar that rikishi compare their performance against retirement

Yeah it must be a very strange feeling.

At least Aoiyama will have some other things to be remembered by, contrary to Shunketsu/Ishide/Komahikari, whose only memorable achievement (apart from shikona madness) was henkaing Kotonowaka Sr. to intai.

(nice glimpse of Junior at the start of the clip)

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Someone with better skills than me should start a "Rikishi-Owned Restaurants" thread so we can visit when in Japan.

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8 hours ago, Churaumi said:

Someone with better skills than me should start a "Rikishi-Owned Restaurants" thread so we can visit when in Japan.

Definitely. Though, I have a feeling many of them don’t last very long, so it might be a chore to manage.

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2 hours ago, Kyokufuji said:

Definitely. Though, I have a feeling many of them don’t last very long, so it might be a chore to manage.

That's part of why it wouldn't be me taking it on. It would be a labor of love for someone who loves the idea more than I do. But, it would be appreciated when we get back to Japan to have a relatively up-to-date thread to reference.

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16 hours ago, Churaumi said:

Someone with better skills than me should start a "Rikishi-Owned Restaurants" thread so we can visit when in Japan.

Use this thread for a start

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2 hours ago, Akinomaki said:
19 hours ago, Churaumi said:

Someone with better skills than me should start a "Rikishi-Owned Restaurants" thread so we can visit when in Japan.

Use this thread for a start

More importantly, we need to be able to crowdsource updates (movements/closures) and reviews from any of us that happen to be able to go to Japan. Having exhausted most of the touristy once-off visits this sounds like something interesting to do, but it's a big if as to when I get to go back to Japan in the near future.

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Even something like what Kintamayama does with the lower ranked celebrity results would be great, just a list of the restaurants, the rikishi associated with them, and the locations would be a great start. I just don't have the time, energy, or discipline to keep something like that up.

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A channel of a Katsushika Shiratori sumo club kohai (also of Hidenoumi, Tsurugisho - and same year with Tobizaru) is posting a long interview with Chiyotairyu shortly after intai - Part 1

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On 13/03/2023 at 11:51, Akinomaki said:

A channel of a Katsushika Shiratori sumo club kohai (also of Hidenoumi, Tsurugisho - and same year with Tobizaru) is posting a long interview with Chiyotairyu shortly after intai - Part 1

The rest

Part 2 Nittaidai time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWYe7Qb9DPo

Part 3 Shisho relation (Chiyonofuji, Chiyotaikai) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoJeWt75fh4

Part 4 No Yaocho - gachinko talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvA2M0NVfmA

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Chris posted a video of his interview with Chiyotairyu and Chiyo now has a big tattoo on his arm. Istn't that a no-no in sumo world and means his retirement cerimony will be outside the kokugikan and with little NSK involvement?

That also raises the question of why not have it done already.

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14 minutes ago, Asapedroryu said:

Chris posted a video of his interview with Chiyotairyu and Chiyo now has a big tattoo on his arm. Istn't that a no-no in sumo world and means his retirement cerimony will be outside the kokugikan and with little NSK involvement?

That also raises the question of why not have it done already.

He could just cover it for the ceremony. 

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4 hours ago, Asapedroryu said:

Chris posted a video of his interview with Chiyotairyu and Chiyo now has a big tattoo on his arm. Istn't that a no-no in sumo world and means his retirement cerimony will be outside the kokugikan and with little NSK involvement?

That also raises the question of why not have it done already.

If he's not in the NSK then they could care less. Danpatsu shiki are normally not sponsored by the NSK also. 

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