Kyushu 2022 discussion (results)

[dingo 1,479]

Meisei and Daieisho are seemingly the inheritors of the legacy of Shohozan and Yoshikaze. They just love going at each other full blast. 

Kagayaki has seemingly come out of nowhere to claim his kachikoshi within 12 days. He must be overjoyed, 2 years is a long wait. I'm happy for him too.

Also happy for Takarafuji to get his first win. Still, these are probably his swansong bashos.

Monster mode Shodai incoming. Just took him a while longer to activate it this time. He takes his role as a spoiler of yushos and ozeki runs very seriously. 

[Kaioshoryu 68]

12 minutes ago, dingo said:

Meisei and Daieisho are seemingly the inheritors of the legacy of Shohozan and Yoshikaze. They just love going at each other full blast. 

Kagayaki has seemingly come out of nowhere to claim his kachikoshi within 12 days. He must be overjoyed, 2 years is a long wait. I'm happy for him too.

Also happy for Takarafuji to get his first win. Still, these are probably his swansong bashos.

Monster mode Shodai incoming. Just took him a while longer to activate it this time. He takes his role as a spoiler of yushos and ozeki runs very seriously. 

Not sure about your Shodai prediction, he looks top heavy and unsteady on his feet...

[Seregost 139]

I miss Aqua's kakenage, but I guess he finally found out that straightforward sumo with less shenanigans works better for him

[Octofuji 431]

57 minutes ago, dingo said:

Also happy for Takarafuji to get his first win. Still, these are probably his swansong bashos.

I was happy for Isegahama too that he didn't have to watch three of his wrestlers lose in a row, especially after Terutsuyoshi almost ended up in his lap.

I've got so used to the gentle decline of wrestlers like Shohozan and Kotoshogiku, it's a shock to think that Takarafuji and Terutsuyoshi could be retired or in Makushita as soon as March.

[Octofuji 431]

33 minutes ago, Seregost said:

I miss Aqua's kakenage, but I guess he finally found out that straightforward sumo with less shenanigans works better for him

Yeah I just watched his bout against Tsurugisho and he didn't even fall off the dohyo. He is much changed.

[dingo 1,479]

1 hour ago, Kaioshoryu said:

Not sure about your Shodai prediction, he looks top heavy and unsteady on his feet...

To be honest I was only half serious, but with Shodai you never know. However he was pretty good against Wakatakakage today. 

Edited November 23, 2022 by dingo

[Yamanashi 4,080]

1 hour ago, Seregost said:

I miss Aqua's kakenage, but I guess he finally found out that straightforward sumo with less shenanigans works better for him

He's won by kakenage 20 times, far more than average, and four of those in the same (Aki 2021) basho.  Since then only twice: Kagayaki last November and Yago last May.

He hasn't lost with this kimarite, but he suffered a kakaeshi from Tobizaru in November 2019 that was so awesome it's the defining video for the technique!

[Seregost 139]

I remember those four kakenage, and was an outstanding thing. But at some point it was too evident and too expected for the rest of the wrestlers, and they countered it easily.

[Asapedroryu 243]

1 hour ago, Octofuji said:

 it's a shock to think that Takarafuji and Terutsuyoshi could be retired or in Makushita as soon as March.

Terutsuyoshi is only 27. Not retiring anytime soon

[Octofuji 431]

2 minutes ago, Asapedroryu said:

Terutsuyoshi is only 27. Not retiring anytime soon

I certainly hope not, but he will be in Makushita soon if he has another basho like this one...

[Kaninoyama 1,880]

Another nice win by Takayasu to stay in the thick of the jun-yusho hunt. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Kaninoyama

[Kaninoyama 1,880]

I know we're not supposed to talk about PP on this forum anymore, but incredibly, PPI (Posture Princess Imposter) is in the audience today front and center doing an admirable impression. 

[Kaninoyama 1,880]

Oho does it. The basho is wide open again.

Oho gets Takayasu tomorrow while Hoshoryu will face Takakeisho. 

Edited November 24, 2022 by Kaninoyama

[Hakuryuho 335]

By Hoshoryu losing, it's now Takayasu's to lose now. 
I'm convinced the madlad's finally going to do it 

[Chartorenji 243]

On 23/11/2022 at 00:18, Katooshu said:

Oho's now 2-18 (discounting the fusen) during days 10-15 of his makuuchi tournaments. Losing to a strong opponent like Abi itself isn't a bad sign, but with Oho's history I wouldn't be surprised if it's down from here.

About that....

[Morty 1,518]

Two grandsons, and one nephew of famous Yokozunae rising to the top of the banzuke, aged 22, 25, and 23 respectively, must be an absolute dream for the Kyokai. In this basho Hoshoryu beat Kotonowaka, Oho beat Hoshoryu, and Oho and Kotonwaka are yet to meet. If those three end up battling it out for supremacy over the next ten years it will be a sumo story for the ages. You couldn't write a better movie script. Now I just hope it happens.

[Barutokai 67]

15 hours ago, Benevolance said:

Will they feed Takarafuji a few of the juryo promotion hopefuls in the last few days? There aren't a lot of other wrestlers with similar, uh, records in makuchi, but he's not very close to the division cut off where I'd normally see those cross over matches.

Well he's still mid-Makuuchi after all...

[Eikokurai 3,437]

Exciting finale ahead of us then. Oho handled Hoshoryu much more easily than I think many of us anticipated. Sets up a great weekend.

Could Takayasu return to Ozeki soon? 11-4 last basho at M4 followed by a minimum of 10-5 this time at M1, if he implodes. With Mitakeumi out and Shodai probably Ozekiwake in January, that could work in Takayasu’s favour if he puts up similar numbers in the new year. With a yusho in there, no doubt for me.

Edited November 24, 2022 by Eikokurai

[Kaninoyama 1,880]

Takayasu looks like a completely different rikishi since degeiko was was opened back up. Perhaps no one suffered from a lack of training partners more than him.

He's got his punishing kachiage back that was present when he became an Ozeki.

Tempering my hopes, but he finds himself once again in an ideal position to earn his first yusho. 

[Old Shatterhand is dead 29]

2 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

 

Tempering my hopes, but he finds himself once again in an ideal position to earn his first yusho. 

But he is Takayasu. Even so, there's still a pretty good chance he'll screw it up in the end.

Edited November 24, 2022 by Old Shatterhand is dead

[Bakayokozuna 52]

Crazy yusho race. Same for juryo.

Meanwhile shodai is closer than ever to demotion. Another miracle or is this it?

Wakatakakage suddenly in danger of MK. He can afford just one more loss

[RabidJohn 2,071]

I, too, believed Oho would be no match for Hoshoryu - then I saw the H2H. Was 2-1, now 3-1, and Oho made it look easy!

It's looking increasingly likely that we're going to have one of those very rare years with six different makuuchi yusho winners. I think I'm going to be happy no matter who gets it this time, but I'll be especially happy if it's their first. 

[dingo 1,479]

Kagayaki is in the makuuchi arasoi. Didn't think I'd ever get to type those words. 

[Barutokai 67]

A Shodai kachikoshi get's more and more unlikely. The last time he managed to win out the last 3 days was in September '20... when he got his Yusho at Sekiwake.

[Rocks 1,810]

9 hours ago, Chartorenji said:

On 23/11/2022 at 03:18, Katooshu said:

Oho's now 2-18 (discounting the fusen) during days 10-15 of his makuuchi tournaments. Losing to a strong opponent like Abi itself isn't a bad sign, but with Oho's history I wouldn't be surprised if it's down from here.

About that....

I wouldn't read a lot into Oho's win. He did well but going low to push was a bad strategy for Hoshoryu. Nerves probably. It doesn't bode well for Hshoryu against Takakeisho. It helped Oho was facing someone he sees as an equal too.  I think Oho will have a bit more nerves against former Ozeki Takayasu, especially being back in the yusho race.