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Guess Hokutofuji's Aite - September 2022 edition

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Announcing the September 2022 edition of Guess Kisenosato's Aite....

Guess Hokutofuji's Aite

All you have to do is guess M8W Hokutofuji's opponent each day, before the torikumi comes out. If you guess correctly, you get a shiroboshi. This is surprisingly more fun (or frustrating) and challenging than it should be. It also gets you to think a bit more about the 'inner-workings' of sumo.

Here is the current banzuke:-

Banzuke for September 2022

Gurowake (Y1E 9-6)  Y1 
Reonito (YOW 9-6) YO Sakura (YOE Kosho)
Oshirokita (S1E 8-7) S1 Jakusotsu (K1W 10-5)  
Hakuhonofan (K1E 9-5-1) K1 Profomisakari (S1W 7-8)
Sumo Spiffy (M4W 8-7) M1 Seiyashi (M1W 7-8) 
Chartorenji (M2E Kosho)  M2  WAKATAKE (M1E 6-8-1)
shimodahito (M3E 5-3-7)  M3  Jejima (M2W 4-11)
The Kyokai (M4E 4-11) M4 
Ryoshishokunin (M3W 0-2-13)

The rules are as follows:-
1. Guess M8W Hokutofuji's opponents on each day of the basho.
2. Entries need to be in before 11:30 am Japan time on the previous day, except for the days 1 and 2 entries which need to be in before 11:30 am Japan time on the Friday prior to the start of the basho. If it turns out that the daily toriukumi is printed before these times, then any entry proved to have come afterwards is not allowed for that day (so enter early to be safe).
3. Tie-breakers to decide the Yusho.... We look at the result of the day 15 prediction, then day 14, and so on back to day 1. If still a tie, then the highest ranked on the banzuke can claim the Yusho.
4. If M8W Hokutofuji goes kyujo during the basho, we switch to M8E Tochinoshin (M9E Myogiryu, then M9W Kotoeko kept further in reserve, if needed due to a mass spate of kyujos) for the days after his fusensho loss (I.e. we can still guess who gets the freebie). For the immediate day afterwards, (unless it is known very soon after the event), everyone will get a 'kyujo'.
5. Players that are leading the Yusho race (especially in the final few days of the basho), are requested / expected to get their picks in very early (before all the other players, if possible) - in order to avoid suspicions of 'tactical picking'.
6. If the kyokai changes the originally posted torikumi for any day (such as for a late kyujo), the first version released will be used for the purpose of this game. (Highlighted, so that I will remember it, unlike in a previous basho!)
7. 
If the sumo forum goes down for a long period of time, you may still make your picks to Jejima or Jakusotsu at the 'obvious' gmail addresses or by any other method. 

Special prizes (many thanks to Yaochoyama):

1. Outstanding performance (shukun-sho) - the one who correctly picks the aite the most consecutive days. You have to have a minimum of three to win this prize.

2. Fighting spirit (kanto-sho) - the one who limits their incorrect aite picks to the shortest number of consecutive days (literally the one whose longest losing streak is the shortest). Any losing streak of 5 or more days would disqualify you from this prize.

3. Technique (gino-sho) - the one who is best at making correct picks when no one, or hardly anyone else does. A point system is used as follows and you need at least 3 points to claim this prize:

3 points if you're the only win to make the correct pick
2 points if you're one of two to make the correct pick
1 point if you're one of three to make the correct pick

New players ((Order,order!)) are cordially invited to this game!

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1. Tochinoshin
2. Kotoeko

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1. Tochinoshin
2. Myogiryu

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Day 2 seems like a real banana peel, not sure I want to think about it that hard until we have a better idea if everyone's competing.

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Too bad we've fallen out of the joi this time. It would have been refreshing with three Sanyaku bouts each day (...barring Covid).

Day 1 - Tochinoshin
Day 2 - Myogiryu

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With 24 hours to the deadline, and assuming no news,

  1. Tochinoshin
  2. Myogiryu
Edited by Reonito

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This could be a really interesting torikumi. A great basho to play this game and see how the torikumi committee are thinking.

Day 1 - Tochinoshin

Day 2 - Myogiryu

 

Edited by Oshirokita
Whoops, forgot to give an opponent to Mitakeumi on Day 2

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20 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Too bad we've fallen out of the joi this time. It would have been refreshing with three Sanyaku bouts each day (...barring Covid).

There's still a reasonable chance each day that the choices for intrasanyaku bouts have a knock-on effect as to how to prepare the rest of the torikumi, so I don't think we're really missing out a ton.

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1. Tochinoshin

2. Myogiryu

They have to adjust somewhere, but without any obvious reasons to pick a spot (e.g. avoiding stablemate matches), I can't think of anything to do but go the way it lines up and ignore how everything breaks at the end.

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hooray... i did not miss the first day deadline:  

1.tochinoshin
2.myogiryu

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No absences, no intra-heya blocks, balanced sanyaku - Shonichi can't get any more straightforward than that.

Gurowake (Y1e) 2-0
Reonito (YOe) 2-0
Sakura (YOw) 2-0
Oshirokita (S1e) 2-0
Jakusotsu (S1w) 2-0
Hakuhonofan (K1e) 2-0
Sumo Spiffy (M1e) 2-0
WAKATAKE (M2w) 2-0
shimodahito (M3e) 2-0
Profomisakari (K1w) 1-1
Seiyashi (M1w) 1-1
Jejima (M3w) 1-1
Chartorenji (M2e) 0-0-2
Ryoshishokunin (M4w) 0-0-2
The Kyokai (M4e) 0-2

Hokutofuji's aites: 1. Tochinoshin, 2. Myogiryu

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2 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

No absences, no intra-heya blocks, balanced sanyaku - Shonichi can't get any more straightforward than that.

(Hitthewall...)

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21 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

(Hitthewall...)

I assume this is for Abi's late withdrawal and the torikumi being redone. 

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...and the beauty of the original version is nowhere to be seen anymore. :-(

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6. If the kyokai changes the originally posted torikumi for any day (such as for a late kyujo), the first version released will be used for the purpose of this game. (Highlighted, so that I will remember it, unlike in a previous basho!)

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Surely there is the original version lurking somewhere, to prove this?

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2 hours ago, Jejima said:

Surely there is the original version lurking somewhere, to prove this?

I just tried using Google Cache (perhaps imperfectly) and Wayback Machine and no, they don't capture the original torikumi.

Maybe one of the sumo news outlets will have had both copies?

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5 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

I assume this is for Abi's late withdrawal and the torikumi being redone. 

I spent ages coming up with a good looking 15-day intra-sanyaku match-up list too.

Edited by Sakura
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