Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Wow. Big move. I hope this results in better internationalisation/translation of sumo content. Chris sounded very butthurt when he commented on the NSK's chanko video in English, but he had a point on the sufficiency (or lack thereof) of the translation. Edited July 29, 2022 by Seiyashi 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
code_number3 694 Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) Anyway, these are Chris Gould’s concern about NSK’s english content. Any comments? (Seiyashi already answered first before I posted this hahaha) Edited July 29, 2022 by code_number3 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, code_number3 said: Anyway, these are Chris Gould’s concern about NSK’s english content. Any comments? (Seiyashi already answered first before I posted this hahaha) Yeah this was what I was referring to when I said he was butthurt. Idk, honestly that spiel alone is just, bad juju and stinks of ego over devotion to covering sumo. Not to say he doesn't do good work somewhere, but.... urgh. At the very least I hope official competition makes him reconsider his angle a bit. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inside Sport Japan 760 Posted July 29, 2022 Opening schedule 8/2 SUMO PRIME TIME intro 8/3 Nagoya Basho Review 8/4 Nagoya Basho Best Bouts 8/5 David -v- Goliath in Sumo SUMO PRIME TIME is an all English language channel 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junsan 170 Posted July 29, 2022 Which means more Murray Johnson on the English broadcast!! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,256 Posted July 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Yeah this was what I was referring to when I said he was butthurt. Idk, honestly that spiel alone is just, bad juju and stinks of ego over devotion to covering sumo. Not to say he doesn't do good work somewhere, but.... urgh. At the very least I hope official competition makes him reconsider his angle a bit. I'm sure he rubbed all of the NSK officials the wrong way -- BIG TIME! I cringe just thinking about his encounter in the street. He probably gave them the impression that there was no way they would be successful without bringing him on board to take charge. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 29, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, sumojoann said: I'm sure he rubbed all of the NSK officials the wrong way -- BIG TIME! I cringe just thinking about his encounter in the street. He probably gave them the impression that there was no way they would be successful without bringing him on board to take charge. I wouldn't quite put it so strongly, but that was roughly what I had in mind, too. One can only hope he put it across more forcefully on his channel than he did to the NSK. Edited July 29, 2022 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,256 Posted July 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Seiyashi said: I wouldn't quite put it so strongly, but that was roughly what I had in mind, too. One can only hope he put it across more forcefully on his channel than he did to the NSK. Well, I dunno...... When he said they stared him down, that's quite a reaction, which led me to think that he provoked them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,335 Posted July 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Yeah this was what I was referring to when I said he was butthurt. Idk, honestly that spiel alone is just, bad juju and stinks of ego over devotion to covering sumo. Not to say he doesn't do good work somewhere, but.... urgh. At the very least I hope official competition makes him reconsider his angle a bit. Off-topic, but he's currently banging on about how Teru more or less threw the yusho race 1 2 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,160 Posted July 29, 2022 33 minutes ago, Reonito said: Off-topic, but he's currently banging on about how Teru more or less threw the yusho race That makes me feel like if Terunofuji had won, we'd instead get comments on how Ichinojo threw the yusho race. There's always an angle... 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,433 Posted July 29, 2022 What does he even mean when he says he had a conversation with “them”? Who? The whole sumo association? Far too vague. Who you mention an idea to kind of matters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 1,376 Posted July 29, 2022 6 hours ago, code_number3 said: Anyway, these are Chris Gould’s concern about NSK’s english content. Any comments? Chris did express his concerns and did be offering his services, then did the NSK be most frosty. I do be grateful for this, as then did I imagine what what do be happening if Chris did be becoming the voice of sumo in the language that does be called English. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kujo 116 Posted July 30, 2022 7 hours ago, junsan said: Which means more Murray Johnson on the English broadcast!! I hope so also, but in true NHK fashion they will probably bring back Clyde Newton.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inside Sport Japan 760 Posted July 30, 2022 More on the breaking Hiro Morita story. The veteran announcer is no longer an NHK employee but will still work with the national broadcaster on live sumo and continue doing NHK World’s Grand Sumo Preview. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inside Sport Japan 760 Posted July 30, 2022 Hiro also asked to let people know that he is a freelancer, that he’ll work for whomever, and that he doesn’t belong to any particular organization including the Japan Sumo Association. What that means is that while he is doing this channel with the JSA, he isn't bound to them and, unlike in the past, is now free to be a guest or work with any site, YouTube channel, etc. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,726 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Inside Sport Japan said: Hiro also asked to let people know that he is a freelancer, that he’ll work for whomever, and that he doesn’t belong to any particular organization including the Japan Sumo Association. What that means is that while he is doing this channel with the JSA, he isn't bound to them and, unlike in the past, is now free to be a guest or work with any site, YouTube channel, etc. I don't know whether to react with "like" or "sad" emoji. Sad that he's out of the gig, but maybe it was his idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inside Sport Japan 760 Posted July 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: I don't know whether to react with "like" or "sad" emoji. Sad that he's out of the gig, but maybe it was his idea. He's not out of any gig. Still doing all the same stuff as before for NHK - just not a company employee anymore. That has freed him up to do the YouTube Channel with the Sumo Kyokai. He's also able to do any other projects since he is completely freelance now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) Elephant in the room. It’s "got beaten", not "got beat". One tiny example. Nitpicking? Sure. It's NHK's English commentary, not some private youtube channel. There is no question the man knows his sumo and is well connected and has great stories and can be quite entertaining and seems to be an all-around nice chap. A few small tweaks, is all. He gets a lot of negative feedback on the world wide web. Someone has to correct him. No big deal, but yes big deal to some. Edited July 30, 2022 by Kintamayama 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said: Chris did express his concerns and did be offering his services, then did the NSK be most frosty. I do be grateful for this, as then did I imagine what what do be happening if Chris did be becoming the voice of sumo in the language that does be called English. calleth, calleth. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,354 Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, sumojoann said: I'm sure he rubbed all of the NSK officials the wrong way -- BIG TIME! I'm sure the NSK officials have no idea who he is. Edited July 30, 2022 by Kintamayama 2 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumoforever 27 Posted July 30, 2022 Thanks for the info about this. Really looking forward to watching this new Sumo Prime Time programme. Really cool to be getting more sumo content. I think Morita Hiro has great sumo knowledge so I think this will be a good product. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,726 Posted July 30, 2022 8 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Elephant in the room. It’s "got beaten", not "got beat". One tiny example. Nitpicking? Sure. It's NHK's English commentary, not some private youtube channel. There is no question the man knows his sumo and is well connected and has great stories and can be quite entertaining and seems to be an all-around nice chap. A few small tweaks, is all. He gets a lot of negative feedback on the world wide web. Someone has to correct him. No big deal, but yes big deal to some. I have commented on his "alternate locutions" several times. They are sometimes irritating, but I wouldn't get rid of him over it. In many sports broadcasts there is an "anchor" ( a person with a Journalism degree) who does the straight reporting, and a "color commentator" (usually an ex-athlete) who puts the "color" or interest into the broadcast. It's my understanding that Sumo broadcasts had that system in the past, but now they have a single commentator (for NHK World), and the one announcer has to wear both hats. To my ears, Murray is more anchor than color, Hiroshi is more color, and Ross splits it down the middle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Yamanashi said: 9 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Elephant in the room. It’s "got beaten", not "got beat". One tiny example. Nitpicking? Sure. It's NHK's English commentary, not some private youtube channel. There is no question the man knows his sumo and is well connected and has great stories and can be quite entertaining and seems to be an all-around nice chap. A few small tweaks, is all. He gets a lot of negative feedback on the world wide web. Someone has to correct him. No big deal, but yes big deal to some. I have commented on his "alternate locutions" several times. They are sometimes irritating, but I wouldn't get rid of him over it. In many sports broadcasts there is an "anchor" ( a person with a Journalism degree) who does the straight reporting, and a "color commentator" (usually an ex-athlete) who puts the "color" or interest into the broadcast. It's my understanding that Sumo broadcasts had that system in the past, but now they have a single commentator (for NHK World), and the one announcer has to wear both hats. To my ears, Murray is more anchor than color, Hiroshi is more color, and Ross splits it down the middle. On that topic while I find his Hiro-isms quite jarring too, I hope they're the sort of thing that only come out in the heat of the moment, and he gets to rehearse and clean up scripts when he's making content for the channel. Malapropisms are quite understandable when under pressure especially if one's English isn't quite purebred, but there's no excuse for something that has had the time and space to be edited. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites