GTB invite- Aki 2022 - RESULTS!!

[Kintamayama 41,316]

This one is going to be fun..So, do we demote Mitakeumi? What do we do with guys who withdrew before they got their MK/KK? And those that that got them after? And Brittney Spears? Does George Clooney really like coffee?

This is a formal invitation to play the "Guess the Banzuke" game!! 25 years, 147 bashos. Please play. Gluten-free.

Game rules: Guess the Banzuke. Simple. You get two points for a bulls-eye and one point for just getting the rank right. You get no points for expecting to see reason in the banzuke -makers' decisions. Tiebreakers - Most total guesses, then we check the banzuke backwards - getting the lower half right will be important.  The most correct guesses in the last ten places will win the tiebreaker. If still tied, we go up a ranking at a time like a penalty shootout. If still tied, I suggest the best font used wins. Wingdings not allowed. It's up to you to check if you are on the list of entries. It's going to be your fault if you don't notice that your entry went missing in the Internet void. No late entries will be expected or accepted. Those are the rules, and the rules will never be changed. Just like the Banzuke is a living thing.

For rules, standings and the book "Ichinojou's back!" which can be read in many ways: http://www.dichne.com/Guess.htm

For the nifty entry form, which will hopefully continue to do what it's intended to do : http://sumodb.sumoga...b/GTBEntry.aspx

For the "new" archives: http://sumodb.sumoga...gtbarchive.aspx

See if you are on the entry list: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/gtb/GTBEntryList.aspx

Deadline: Monday, August 22nd, 2022 at 18:00 GMT ("Give Me That!") - PLEASE NOTE-THIS IS ONE WEEK BEFORE THE OFFICIAL BANZUKE ANNOUNCEMENT!!

Special thanks to Andoreasu who runs it, Doitsuyama who automates and maintains it and to real banzuke makers who always make me look bad.

Edited August 28, 2022 by Kintamayama

[Seiyashi 3,545]

Helper sheet from last basho updated:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1v74h4RRPxKFdonDhgyEuZU-gkAOXGhTMHfnj__DodGA/edit?usp=sharing

Edited July 27, 2022 by Seiyashi

[Nantonoyama 224]

For sure one of the most exciting GTBs ever. Good luck everyone!

[Yarimotsu 243]

I am actively dreading this... Might have to just do what I think should be done and hope they think like me 

[Sumo Spiffy 280]

17 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

I am actively dreading this... Might have to just do what I think should be done and hope they think like me 

I have a draft, but I'm waiting till the last day or two to see what information is leaked, just because of all the theoretical question marks at hand.

[Seiyashi 3,545]

33 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

51 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

I am actively dreading this... Might have to just do what I think should be done and hope they think like me 

I have a draft, but I'm waiting till the last day or two to see what information is leaked, just because of all the theoretical question marks at hand.

Cue haiku from Kintamayama-san imploring you to hurry...

Edited July 27, 2022 by Seiyashi

[Kintamayama 41,316]

5 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Cue haiku from Kintamayama-san imploring you to hurry...

It needs to be said

That maybe this time only

It's better to wait..

[Kintamayama 41,316]

Looks like this one will have very few participants..

[Athenayama 527]

22 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

Looks like this one will have very few participants..

As we can change our entry afterwards, I don't see what's preventing us to make one already (ok, I didn't submit mine yet but it"s ready and I'll do it shortly!).

[Seiyashi 3,545]

1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

Looks like this one will have very few participants..

Juxtaposed against your previous post suggesting that people wait, this becomes a little hilarious.

That said, in all seriousness, I don't think we're getting any more hints out of Isegahama, right?

[Pitinosato 81]

I entered already, with a Banzuke made "somehow"...

How I would do it - so I am pretty sure the NSK will do it totally different 

And I will not change it in my vacation 

I am really looking forward to the Ozumo Banzuke and how it will match with mine.... 

[Yarimotsu 243]

1 hour ago, Athenayama said:

As we can change our entry afterwards, I don't see what's preventing us to make one already

Lack of creativity, for one.

I'd been putting it off and just had my first look.... so.... M1e Tobizaru or Midorifuji? 

[Seiyashi 3,545]

41 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

Lack of creativity, for one.

I'd been putting it off and just had my first look.... so.... M1e Tobizaru or Midorifuji? 

Kotonowaka or Kiribayama, I would have thought.

[Yarimotsu 243]

4 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Kotonowaka or Kiribayama, I would have thought.

I'm not going to take that bait either but I've moved beyond the initial shock and actually read what's in front of me.

[Athenayama 527]

55 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

 

I'd been putting it off and just had my first look.... so.... M1e Tobizaru or Midorifuji? 

Don't ask me, I'm certainly one of the worst players at this game !

[Jakusotsu 5,006]

Any chance it might be Akiseyama?

[Reonito 788]

5 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

Lack of creativity, for one.

I'd been putting it off and just had my first look.... so.... M1e Tobizaru or Midorifuji? 

5 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Kotonowaka or Kiribayama, I would have thought.

There are 3 reasonable guesses for M1e, based on completely different approaches they could take to san'yaku and the C-kyujo. Then there are a couple more possibilities, based on more unreasonable things they could do. That's the thing; usually we at least know the basic rules, even if they deviate from them or apply them inconsistently.

 

[Sumo Spiffy 280]

12 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

Juxtaposed against your previous post suggesting that people wait, this becomes a little hilarious.

That said, in all seriousness, I don't think we're getting any more hints out of Isegahama, right?

Maybe not directly, but the more curiosity there is about something—anything—the more likely relevant information slips, even if only a little more likely.

[Kujo 105]

11 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Any chance it might be Akiseyama?

 

[WAKATAKE 2,382]

Well this certainly was not pleasant. I will be happy to declare a victory by who I chose for M17W

[Sakura 1,295]

I don't know if I'm going to have time to do one this time around. I'm still jet-lagged and the Summer is busy.

I didn't particpate last September and I don't want to have not participating affect my ranking.

From the GTB website we have the following:

 

The first kyujo has no effect on the ranking points - it will be treated as kosho. If you are absent consecutively for two bashos, the second kyujo counts as a zero. If you are absent consecutively for three bashos, the second and the third kyujo counts as a zero et cetera. After missing seven bashos in a row you will be unranked.

Since I have not been absent since last year I am hoping that two absences in a 12-month span will be ok.

Could people in the know confirm or not if that I will not lose any points if I am absent.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Sakura

[Reonito 788]

28 minutes ago, Sakura said:

I don't know if I'm going to have time to do one this time around. I'm still jet-lagged and the Summer is busy.

Just guess where Ichiyamamoto will go, the rest falls into place 

[Asashosakari 16,989]

1 hour ago, Sakura said:

I don't know if I'm going to have time to do one this time around. I'm still jet-lagged and the Summer is busy.

I didn't particpate last September and I don't want to have not participating affect my ranking.

From the GTB website we have the following:

 

The first kyujo has no effect on the ranking points - it will be treated as kosho. If you are absent consecutively for two bashos, the second kyujo counts as a zero. If you are absent consecutively for three bashos, the second and the third kyujo counts as a zero et cetera. After missing seven bashos in a row you will be unranked.

Since I have not been absent since last year I am hoping that two absences in a 12-month span will be ok.

Could people in the know confirm or not if that I will not lose any points if I am absent.

Only back-to-back absences result in a zero-point score.

[Yarimotsu 243]

10 hours ago, Reonito said:

Just guess where Ichiyamamoto will go, the rest falls into place 

The way I did it, ichiyamamoto just slots into place and the hardest ranks were M1 and M10. How successful my idea of consistency will be... doubtful.

[Jakusotsu 5,006]

It came together surprisingly easy once you applied a certain method to this madness, but of course it's far from certain that it's the correct method and the correct madness.