GTB invite- Aki 2022 - RESULTS!!

[Chiyotasuke 128]

If you want to know how I made the winning banzuke, take a look at my avatar pic

Whatever the heck happened, I'm still happy about my 57 point yusho.

[Reonito 686]

15 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

The covid absences of those with 8 wins or losses are removed entirely from their score in calculating a win-loss differential to move that rikishi up or down a certain amount.

I don't think that's what they actually did. As @Gurowake and @Sumo Spiffy also noted, it looks roughly like for those with 8+ wins they assumed all the absences were losses, and for those with 8+ losses they assumed the absences were wins.

15 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

Oh, and obviously Endo's rank is egregious but there's always one.

Endo's placement is consistent with this interpretation, as is Nishikigi's.

[Sakura 1,257]

18 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Only 6 people in the now top 10 participated.  And given what we got, I feel totally justified being among those to not enter.  I'm totally not surprised that unusual circumstances would lead a group of mostly middle-school-educated former athletes to come to the "decisions" they did.  It's an absolute travesty.  John Gunning's words about the Internet having better banzuke makers than the Kyokai is about ten times more accurate this time.

I wish I hadn't participated. It's my worst result for a while. 

[Yarimotsu 210]

18 hours ago, Reonito said:

I don't think that's what they actually did. As @Gurowake and @Sumo Spiffy also noted, it looks roughly like for those with 8+ wins they assumed all the absences were losses, and for those with 8+ losses they assumed the absences were wins.

Endo's placement is consistent with this interpretation, as is Nishikigi's.

I think that your wording makes it sound backwards but it comes to the mathematical conclusion that you're basically correct. For those who reached 8 wins or 8 losses then pulled out with COVID, their rank change was given based on the excess losses or wins they got above 7, rather than doing any extrapolation at all.

Due to how I calculated it, I actually used that process for the KK rikishi and only neglected to do it for the MK rikishi - which was only Endo and Daiamami. Daiamami actually nearly saves his Makuuchi rank under this interpretation (he does by straight math but I'd have to check precedent for division changes). Endo's expected rank goes exactly where he went on the banzuke.

Edited August 30, 2022 by Yarimotsu

[Gurowake 3,485]

2 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

Daiamami actually nearly saves his Makuuchi rank under this interpretation

Well, it certainly seems based on where he ended up in Juryo that he didn't get credit for winning the 3 Covid absences, but instead got treated as though he lost them.  I attribute this to them being unable to differentiate between his injury absences and his Covid absences.  Given their choice of how to do things, that kind of analysis being beyond their mental capabilities seems reasonable.

[Reonito 686]

The first half of Chris's video on this is somewhat informative based on his translation of the Nikkan Sports analysis, before it descends into  conspiracy theorizing and the usual lack of understanding of banzuke math.

[Sumo Spiffy 247]

2 hours ago, Reonito said:

The first half of Chris's video on this is somewhat informative based on his translation of the Nikkan Sports analysis, before it descends into  conspiracy theorizing and the usual lack of understanding of banzuke math.

Yeah, this one got kinda wild.

"Midorifuji benefits from Isegahama being in charge"

the fk you talking about my dude