RabidJohn 1,274 Posted June 22, 2022 Well at least I can read the thread title... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mt fuji 971 Posted June 22, 2022 just from Google Translate: <Notice of retirement from Shohozan> Former Komusubi Shohozan (Real name Yuya Matsutani, Hanaregoma stable) has retired. Profile of Shohozan 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 690 Posted June 22, 2022 The Twitter post basically says that ex-Komusubi Shohozan (real name Matsutani Yuya) has retired and links to his profile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,545 Posted June 22, 2022 More importantly, no mention of any assumption of kabu. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 41,316 Posted June 22, 2022 Papers are saying he has no kabu so he is embarking on his "second life", meaning away from the official Kyokai. Maybe heya manager? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 690 Posted June 22, 2022 That's pretty awful, unless he chose this himself. Spending a long and fairly illustrious sumo career peaking at Komusubi and then having nothing to fall back on for retirement. I know a kabu is never guaranteed, but for someone like Shohozan to come up with nothing is pretty sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LLCoolKay 10 Posted June 22, 2022 I loved his style since I started watching and will miss seeing him. Hopefully he lands on his feet and has a successful career outside of the sumo world. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kujo 105 Posted June 22, 2022 He always seemed headstrong and I liked his combativeness. I wonder if this caused him to burn a few bridges over his career. Then again, maybe he got tired of the life and needs a change. I also hope he lands on his feet, whatever he does next. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 243 Posted June 23, 2022 I always enjoyed his brawler style, and was hoping he'd stay on. But hopefully all goes well with his next career! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 35,669 Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) As a reason for Shohozan having to leave the NSK, the Weekly Post names a bad relation with the original shisho, ex-Wakashimazu, now Araiso. He could have tried to stay with a kabu on loan, Nishikijima and Tomozuna are vacant at the moment. As the most accomplished deshi of Wakashimazu he was thought to become the next shisho, but instead the successor is now Hanaregoma, from a different heya. For all of this the shisho has to cooperate. In 2010 Shohozan was involved in the baseball gambling scandal and nearly got expelled. Due to the efforts of the shisho, he got away with a 2 basho suspension. Wakashimazu apparently prefers Ichiyamamoto, he may get the Araiso kabu in 5 years. http://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20220625_1767904.html Edited June 26, 2022 by Akinomaki 3 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 3,545 Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) That explains a lot. The relationship must be really bad if he can't even get the vacant kabu as loaners. Edited June 26, 2022 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 35,669 Posted June 26, 2022 Not many pics in the papers so far, a few more will likely come after the press conference on the 28th oo o o o oo last kachikoshi with return to makuuchi, day 15 Aki 2021 o local NHK vid 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 863 Posted June 28, 2022 Shame. I always like Shohozan's sumo. He was a real brawler. I've been looking over his record to see what his best result was. It looks to be his Kyushu 2015 run at M10w where he went 12-3 and got a tied jun-yusho with Hakuho. There's also his Kyushu 2012 run where he went an impressive 10-5 at the much higher rank of M2e, beating three ozeki (Kotooshu, Baruto and Kisenosato) along the way. Here's his match against Kisenosato from that basho: 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 35,669 Posted June 28, 2022 Career digest - the intai press conference was today, he'll go into the food and drink business https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOKC28ADD0Y2A620C2000000/ 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 863 Posted June 28, 2022 I want one of those buttons. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,338 Posted June 28, 2022 As Akinomaki said, according to the article Shohozan "won't remain in in sumo as an oyakata but plans to work in the food industry." Regarding his future, he said: "There are also many athletes struggling with food, so hopefully I can be of help to them." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,154 Posted June 29, 2022 I've always liked Shohozan --- for several reasons. 1) He always gave 100% in the ring. 2) When he won his first (of 3) kinboshi against Harumafuji, he burst into tears while receiving the kensho and was still crying when he got to the dressing room. He later said that he never thought he could achieve that. 3) Despite his stern outward appearance, outside of the ring, he was fun-loving and liked to joke around with his fellow rikishi. My neighbor, who is gay, called Shohozan "eye candy." I have a Shohozan Playlist on my Youtube channel. It used to have 3 videos on it. Two have disappeared. Here is the last one remaining. It shows his bout with Harumafuji the first time he won a kinboshi against him, and his reaction. (51 second video). 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,302 Posted June 29, 2022 At this time, I'd like to reflect on Shohozan's greatest moment: face palming Goeidou off the dohyo on day 5 of Nagoya in 2013. The match isn't the most incredible, but the Asahi shimbun got the most amazingly timed photo, which ended up being my desktop image for years. In the after interview, when asked about his attack, his response was something like, "His [Goeidou's] face was right there and I felt I needed to hit it." 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 35,669 Posted June 29, 2022 At the intai press conference, Shohozan told that he had been asked "Should we arrange for a kabu?", but "I had no desire at all to remain in the NSK, doing something new is best done quickly." "I think I'm not suited to be a coach, I want to be a player. I'm not good at instructing people, with strong perseverance, that's why. I thought about that since quite some time ago." http://www.zakzak.co.jp/article/20220629-Y7JGDGDVZBPR7JJKVESYFDREZQ/ 7 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,054 Posted June 29, 2022 I will miss the "Zan" brothers (Shoho- and Tochio-). To me they were the Newman and Redford of Ozumo. The video of Nagoya 2013 against Goeido was great: he slaps him and facepalms him, then offers to help him up. The crowd seemed to react to the assertive way he pulled off his sagari. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 35,669 Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) No tears at the Intai press conference, with Hanaregoma-oyakata ooo o oo o o o a surprise appearance by heya mates, Shimazuumi with flower presentation, Ichiyamamoto o next the former shisho made a surprise appearance, with the okamisan, daughter Airi was also there oooooo ooo Edited September 13, 2022 by Akinomaki 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 35,669 Posted June 29, 2022 Shohozan liked to pose in front of the camera o ooo o o o with wife and kids o o oo o komusubi oooo first kinboshi, from Harumafuji oo another o o more o oooo o o o o o o o o o 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 170 Posted June 29, 2022 On 28/06/2022 at 13:16, dada78641 said: Shame. I always like Shohozan's sumo. He was a real brawler. I've been looking over his record to see what his best result was. It looks to be his Kyushu 2015 run at M10w where he went 12-3 and got a tied jun-yusho with Hakuho. I remember that basho, for the very atypical kimarite he employed. He came back from a stint in Juryo and looked like a changed wrestler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 243 Posted June 30, 2022 9 hours ago, Akinomaki said: At the intai press conference, Shohozan told that he had been asked "Should we arrange for a kabu?", but "I had no desire at all to remain in the NSK, doing something new is best done quickly." "I think I'm not suited to be a coach, I want to be a player. I'm not good at instructing people, with strong perseverance, that's why. I thought about that since quite some time ago." http://www.zakzak.co.jp/article/20220629-Y7JGDGDVZBPR7JJKVESYFDREZQ/ So is there any possibility that this is a Japanese politeness thing and he might have actually wanted a kabu? Or is this almost definitely his actual opinion? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites