New recruits Aki 2022

[maglor 81]

The place my family is from in India(Tamil Nadu) also does patronymics

[Inside Sport Japan 680]

17 hours ago, Ryoshishokunin said:

Remember that Mongolians don't have surnames per se: they have patronymics, i.e. their father's name is their second name.   Unless they're brothers, the shared name is a coincidence.  

It was the same with Scandinavia correct? PeterSON EricSON etc.

Ireland as well. O'Brien O'Reilly (O meaning of) and McDonagh MacMahon (Mac meaning 'son of')

[Reonito 686]

Russian uses patronymics as well, but as middle names, not as surnames.

[Ryoshishokunin 210]

5 hours ago, Inside Sport Japan said:

It was the same with Scandinavia correct? PeterSON EricSON etc.

Ireland as well. O'Brien O'Reilly (O meaning of) and McDonagh MacMahon (Mac meaning 'son of')

Yes, though only Iceland still does so.  (The big clue is that you see "Svensdotir" in Icelandic names for women.)

[Seiyashi 3,462]

Spain and Malaysia are the other two places off the top of my head; Spain is slightly unique in combining both parents' names. 

[Koorifuu 467]

38 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Spain and Malaysia are the other two places off the top of my head; Spain is slightly unique in combining both parents' names. 

Spain (and the other Spanish speaking countries) does it with surnames. No patronymics. The difference that makes them unique, compared to most other western/central European cultures, is that the main surname isn't the very last, but the second to last.

It goes: Given name(s) - father's surname - mother's surname.

General shortening rules default to First Given Name + Father's Surname, but there are exceptions i.e. when the individual themselves make a point out of using the mother's surname either in lieu or in addition to the father's.

[Gurowake 3,485]

7 hours ago, Koorifuu said:

Spain (and the other Spanish speaking countries) does it with surnames. No patronymics. The difference that makes them unique, compared to most other western/central European cultures, is that the main surname isn't the very last, but the second to last.

It goes: Given name(s) - father's surname - mother's surname.

General shortening rules default to First Given Name + Father's Surname, but there are exceptions i.e. when the individual themselves make a point out of using the mother's surname either in lieu or in addition to the father's.

It's even worse when they use their second given name.  So someone whose name is legally Alfredo Alejandro Bautista Gonzales goes by Alejandro Bautista.  I have a client that's like that.  We have their full legal name in our system to put on their tax return, and unless I know their client ID, I'd have to look for that legal name to find them, despite it not being their name they normally use.  They also have a business which obviously is most of the work, so I put their personal client ID in the notes for the business client (which is easy to remember the ID for) just so it's easy to find them. 

But this has nothing to do with Aki recruits.

[Yamanashi 2,970]

2 hours ago, Gurowake said:

But this has nothing to do with Aki recruits.

Hint, hint.

[Jakusotsu 4,906]

4 hours ago, Gurowake said:

It's even worse when they use their second given name.  So someone whose name is legally Alfredo Alejandro Bautista Gonzales goes by Alejandro Bautista.  I have a client that's like that.  We have their full legal name in our system to put on their tax return, and unless I know their client ID, I'd have to look for that legal name to find them, despite it not being their name they normally use.  They also have a business which obviously is most of the work, so I put their personal client ID in the notes for the business client (which is easy to remember the ID for) just so it's easy to find them. 

But this has nothing to do with Aki recruits.

Just be glad that you don't have to deal with the hullabaloo of given name/real name/shikona/kabu the NSK employees entertain.

[Akinomaki 34,937]

All 4 new recruits have passed the shindeshi kensa and can start their bouts, Kawazoe tomorrow, the others in maezumo on day 3. https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2022091100258&g=spo

[Akinomaki 34,937]

Maezumo has started, but only the win of Ishioka over Tatsunami's Koukiryu 煌貴龍 (Chin Haikou 陳佩煌 - the last -kou is the first kanji of his shikona) gets a mention

oo o

[Chartorenji 159]

17 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Maezumo has started, but only the win of Ishioka over Tatsunami's Koukiryu 煌貴龍 (Chin Haikou 陳佩煌 - the last -kou is the first kanji of his shikona) gets a mention

oo o

any banzuke-gai? or was this just the one bout?

[Akinomaki 34,937]

7 minutes ago, Chartorenji said:

any banzuke-gai? or was this just the one bout?

I just checked - it was only this one bout today - so maezumo is over this basho

Edited September 13, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Chartorenji 159]

3 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

I just checked - it was only this one bout today - so maezumo is over this basho

oh damn thought we had 3 recruits besides Hakuho's super prospect. 

[Akinomaki 34,937]

Just now, Chartorenji said:

oh damn thought we had 3 recruits besides Hakuho's super prospect. 

One is a foreigner and will start in Kyushu

[Chartorenji 159]

Just now, Akinomaki said:

One is a foreigner and will start in Kyushu

ahh gotcha

[Kaitetsu 173]

On 13/09/2022 at 19:47, Akinomaki said:

Maezumo has started, but only the win of Ishioka over Tatsunami's Koukiryu 煌貴龍 (Chin Haikou 陳佩煌 - the last -kou is the first kanji of his shikona) gets a mention

oo o

Were they presented already? I completely missed photos of them in the KMs

[Chartorenji 159]

Just now, Kaitetsu said:

Were they presented already? I completely missed photos of them in the KMs

always Day 8 If I remember right. Middle of the basho tradition

[Akinomaki 34,937]

Shinjo shusse hirou for Ishioka and Kokiryu - Ishioka with Terunofuji's kesho mawashi from the high school of both, Tottori Johoku, Kokiryu with one of Akua

o o o

day 3 maezumo: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dot5t

Edited September 18, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 34,937]

On 18/09/2022 at 11:12, Akinomaki said:

Shinjo shusse hirou for Ishioka and Kokiryu - Ishioka with Terunofuji's kesho mawashi from the high school of both, Tottori Johoku, Kokiryu with one of Akua

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8dtmgk

the basho concluding kami-okuri ceremony with the new recruits (with help) tossing a gyoji into the air (Chinese comments, Kokiryu is of Chinese origin) https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1de411K7by

Edited September 26, 2022 by Akinomaki