Taliesin 68 Posted September 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: Tamawashi yusho ... ? No way. If he takes yusho, he will almost certainly be promoted to sanyaku. And he needs to stay maegashira to collect more kinboshi. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hakuryuho 334 Posted September 15, 2022 58 minutes ago, Chartorenji said: Overheard in Isegehama heya after Day 5:“He got me,” Terunofuji said of Tamawashi's 4 kinboshi over him. "That f***ing Tamawashi boomed me."The Yokozuna added, “He’s so good,” repeating it four times.Terunofuji then said he wanted to add Tama to the list of players he works out with on the next tour. Sources: Terunofuji is beside himself. Driving around downtown Tokyo begging (thru texts) Tamawashi's family for address to Tamawashi's house 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,673 Posted September 15, 2022 Of the 3 remaining unbeaten rikishi, I agree Tamawashi is the most likely to yusho purely because he's done it before, but there's only a 3rd of the basho gone so it's way too early to call. Terunofuji could still get a 13-2Y from here, so could Mitakeumi. I'm just enjoying the show, which has produced some very entertaining highlights so far. At the risk of sounding like a rikishi, I'm just taking the basho 1 day at a time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: Of the 3 remaining unbeaten rikishi, I agree Tamawashi is the most likely to yusho purely because he's done it before, but there's only a 3rd of the basho gone so it's way too early to call. Terunofuji could still get a 13-2Y from here, so could Mitakeumi. I'm just enjoying the show, which has produced some very entertaining highlights so far. At the risk of sounding like a rikishi, I'm just taking the basho 1 day at a time. Pretty much agreed, except the 4-1 batch are also quite in it. Takakeishō is always a contender if healthy, Hōshōryū came closest to beating Terunofuji last basho and might finally do it this basho with Terunofuji looking poorly, and Takayasu is also looking pretty good. Of the 5-0 batch I don't think Ōhō will remain a contender past the first week based on his past track record but he might always just surprise. If the current arasoi (bit early, but still) stay focused, we could be in for a very good series of elimination matches in week 2. I also have to say, of those not already mentioned, Kiribayama is back in fine form this basho as well. Even if he doesn't make it anywhere higher than sekiwake he'll still be a pretty entertaining joi denizen for a while to come. He has tenacity and agility in the right proportions to get the crowd fired up. Edited September 15, 2022 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tochinofuji 372 Posted September 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Hakuryuho said: Sources: Terunofuji is beside himself. Driving around downtown Tokyo begging (thru texts) Tamawashi's family for address to Tamawashi's house What's "Send location" in Mongolian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,470 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) We had an Oguruma beya do-beya bout in Makushita today between Tomokaze and Yago, which seemed to have gone unnoticed. "I really enjoyed that sumo..I would have said that even if I had lost.. I faced him hundreds of times in keiko so i was really happy to face him. I hope to do this again soon," said Tomokaze later. Both are ex-Makuuchi injury plagues rikishi trying to climb back to sekitorihood. Edited September 15, 2022 by Kintamayama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted September 15, 2022 5 hours ago, Taliesin said: 6 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Kaisei at his co-commentator debut on NHK today said he's a bit nervous, but he sounds relaxed and like he's really suited for this. Maybe he'll become a regular, today with Mainoumi. Not a great day for the commentator debut, with Miyagino on Abema. And later on he had left his seat as the NHK guy was asking him something - also here a funny Kaisei A and an unreliable Kaisei B 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) At least we still have 2 sanyaku one win behind the leaders, but that may be over soon and we get the same senkoku jidai/war period basho like the recent ones. Interesting times, with the predicted yusho winner changing each day. Tamawashi will likely stay active till way past 40, to cash in the kinboshi he keeps collecting. 4 this year from Terunofuji mean an extra pay of 80 000 yen per month from now on (his one yusho only earns him an extra 60 000). His earlier 3 are from 3 other yokozuna, only missing Hakuho. He'll take a break if he's in sanyaku next basho, with proper makekoshi, and hope that Terunofuji goes on for many more basho. Edited September 15, 2022 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seregost 130 Posted September 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: At least we still have 2 sanyaku one win behind the leaders, but that may be over soon and we get the same senkoku jidai/war period basho like the recent ones. Interesting times, with the predicted yusho winner changing each day. Tamawashi will likely stay active till way past 40, to cash in the kinboshi he keeps collecting. 4 this year from Terunofuji mean an extra pay of 80 000 yen per month from now on (his one yusho only earns him an extra 60 000). His earlier 3 are from 3 other yokozuna, only missing Hakuho. He'll take a break if he's in sanyaku next basho, with proper makekoshi, and hope that Terunofuji goes on for many more basho. Maybe this is obvious, but... a yusho means 60k yen each month? I thought it was just money when you won it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamitsuumi 387 Posted September 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Seregost said: Maybe this is obvious, but... a yusho means 60k yen each month? I thought it was just money when you won it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mochikyūkin 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,823 Posted September 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Kintamayama said: We had an Oguruma beya do-beya bout in Makushita today between Tomokaze and Yago, which seemed to have gone unnoticed. Er, no: http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/41816-aki-2022-discussion-results/?do=findComment&comment=475891 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,933 Posted September 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Seregost said: Maybe this is obvious, but... a yusho means 60k yen each month? I thought it was just money when you won it. And a zensho means 100 000 - so you can guess what it had cost the NSK that Hakuho went on for so long. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,745 Posted September 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: He'll take a break if he's in sanyaku next basho, with proper makekoshi, and hope that Terunofuji goes on for many more basho. I hadn't thought of that! It makes perfect sense from a personal finance point-of-view. Of course, it shows a poor sense of hinkaku, but he's only been in Japan for 20 years, so he will learn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 235 Posted September 15, 2022 A dark horse for me is Hokutofuji. Dude has been higher before and seems to be back in his good groove. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,573 Posted September 15, 2022 Tamawashi climbs up another rung, now the 4th-oldest kinboshi winner. Winner Basho, Day Yokozuna Age of Winner 1) Oshio 1940 Haru, Day 6 Minanogawa 39 years, 5 months, 6 days 2) Kitanonada 1961 Natsu, Day 3 Asashio 38 years, 3 months, 8 days 3) Nayoroiwa 1952 Aki, Day 5 Chiyonoyama 37 years, 11 months, 29 days 4) Tamawashi 2022 Aki, Day 5 Terunofuji 37 years, 9 months, 30 days 5) Dewanishiki 1963 Haru, Day 4 Taiho 37 years, 7 months, 26 days 6) Aminishiki 2016 Hatsu, Day 3 Kakuryu 37 years, 3 months, 9 days 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,172 Posted September 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Tamawashi will likely stay active till way past 40, to cash in the kinboshi he keeps collecting. 4 this year from Terunofuji mean an extra pay of 80 000 yen per month from now on (his one yusho only earns him an extra 60 000). His earlier 3 are from 3 other yokozuna, only missing Hakuho. He'll take a break if he's in sanyaku next basho, with proper makekoshi, and hope that Terunofuji goes on for many more basho. It's a Mongolian conspiracy I tell you! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted September 15, 2022 In other news: I can't find/recall a thread on gyōji accidents so I'm just dumping it here, but Kimura Ginjirō had an unfortunate encounter with Hiradoumi's elbow today: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gunner 10 Posted September 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Athenayama said: Strange, I'm almost sure I saw him win that way not so long ago. Probably I'm mistaken. ENHO has tried it before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaito 275 Posted September 15, 2022 In the last 2 years, Tamawashi is 53-29 from day 1 to day 7 and 29-53 from day 9 to day 15 (I included the 1 fusen in each direction just for the perfect symmetry). I can't think of him as a contender yet, let alone the frontrunner. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,138 Posted September 15, 2022 Hosh ozeki run hype Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 235 Posted September 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Katooshu said: Hosh ozeki run hype 21 wins. He'd need to win out, but if he gets double digits he def would be near it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,172 Posted September 15, 2022 25 minutes ago, Chartorenji said: 21 wins. He'd need to win out, but if he gets double digits he def would be near it He's a new sekiwake so no way unless he wins the yusho. Even then I wouldn't be sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chartorenji 235 Posted September 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, dingo said: He's a new sekiwake so no way unless he wins the yusho. Even then I wouldn't be sure. yeah. probs better shot then Waka, as WAka was going Mag to Sekiwake outright. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted September 15, 2022 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Chartorenji said: 1 hour ago, Katooshu said: Hosh ozeki run hype 21 wins. He'd need to win out, but if he gets double digits he def would be near it Am I missing something? He's 8-7, 8-7, 9-6 in the last three basho; he'd need two good basho in a row (including this one) to open the conversation. Even going 14 in this one leaves him at 31 only, which while not fatal, isn't exactly a strong 3-basho record either. As much as I'd like him to reach the rank sooner rather than later, it's not likely within this basho, is it? Edited September 15, 2022 by Seiyashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,138 Posted September 15, 2022 Hype for an ozeki run, not him reaching ozeki right after this basho... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites