Fashiritētā 169 Posted September 23, 2022 8 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said: Usually not a fan of henkas, much less one by an Ozeki against a yusho contender, but Hokutofuji was so clearly over-amped and ready to charge blindly that this one was really more on him than it was a dirty move by Takakeisho. Yes, Henkas are cheap wins , i would agree , it was on Hokutofuji to be ready for anything, especially being the Yusho leader. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,728 Posted September 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, Benevolance said: Shodai showing the Ozeki Pride by putting up the same sort of numbers as Tamawashi. A different order, sure. But it's the same numbers. Cue the Ag School jokes ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Fashiritētā said: Yes, Henkas are cheap wins , i would agree , it was on Hokutofuji to be ready for anything, especially being the Yusho leader. Goeido, doing commentary yesterday, even warned right before the bout that Hokutofuji needed to guard against getting over-excited. He was spot on. Edited September 23, 2022 by Kaninoyama 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hakutorizakura 590 Posted September 23, 2022 https://www.nikkansports.com/yaku-mitsuru/ The gyoji announces the winner: Tobi (flying/jumping)-keisho o o o Background noise: spectators Annoyed TK: Shut up you! A win is a win. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lackmaker 432 Posted September 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Godango said: Tochinoshin's henka over Kakuryu on day 14 in Nagoya 2019 comes to mind. It was his 10th win to re-earn Ozeki, but handed the yusho to Asanoyama while eliminating Kakuryu. Easier to swallow with a yokozuna opponent, sure, but arguably more egregious given it definitely decided the yusho. It should be considered disrespectful to henka a yokozuna. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted September 23, 2022 That was an Ozeki-Takayasu tachiai from Takayasu. Yusho race down to three. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted September 23, 2022 And Takakeisho gets a taste of his own medicine. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 327 Posted September 23, 2022 Maybe we should have a Ranfurly Shield of henka victims I'm surprised Takakeisho wasn't half expecting that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,256 Posted September 23, 2022 It's called karma, Takakeisho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,815 Posted September 23, 2022 Did Wakatakakage get a high five from Hokutofuji in the shitaku-beya? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 356 Posted September 23, 2022 1 hour ago, lackmaker said: It should be considered disrespectful to henka a yokozuna. It should be considered yokozuna-unworthy to fall for a henka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leoben 121 Posted September 23, 2022 You break the henka ice; you pay the henka price. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) Well, well, well. As @Katooshu won't be surprised to hear, Otani's done it again - except it was even worse this time. Asakayama was on scolding duty today. Who's next? Congrats on the jonokuchi yusho, I guess. (This guy is singlehandedly going to risk already-endangered Miyagino's oyakata career, isn't he?) Edited September 23, 2022 by Koorifuu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,433 Posted September 23, 2022 Despite the generally low quality basho, we at least have the prospect of an exciting finale with three guys in the race (and technically all the 9-win guys are still in until one of those reaches 12). Tamawashi’s to lose, and his experience will probably carry him over the line, but Hokutofuji will be keen to capitalize on the best chance he’s ever had to take a yusho, while Takayasu can almost smell the missed opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankegami 412 Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) Day 13 done, also called Henka Day. Takakeisho caused quite a domino effect: his victim from yesterday, Hokutofuji, did a HNH on Tobizaru, while Wakatakakage performed a good 'ole henka on the Hamster himself. Hope Chiyoshoma is not going to join the party tomorrow. He oddly missed the festivity today. That's not much to be said. Tamawashi looks as strong as a bull and appears unlikely do drop much in the last two days. Tomorrow he will face Tobizaru (precedents 1-2 for the Monkey) but I am personally skeptical that the Old Fox is going to drop one here. His eventual win also means that the four losses guy are going to leave the arasoi. This also puts some extra pressure on the runner-ups. Takayasu seems pretty much a Tamawashi with extra fur (Collectors Edition TM), so I am prone to believe he will run over Hoshoryu (their precedents are also 4-1 for Papa Bear). Hokutofuji is less Ironman than the other two, and could leave the stage tomorrow by losing against Wakatakakage (3-1 for the latter). Most important, tomorrow's schedule for Day 14 is bewildering unbalanced. I mean, the closing bout is... Takarafuji vs. Shodai?! Seriously?!? I get that the san'yaku are doing poorly and the Committee moved to an approach based on results, yet... Also, that's not the only over-sketched pairing on schedule. Actually, a M5e fighting an Ozeki is not that absurd. Much worse is the completely useless Takakeisho vs. Nishikifuji, an Ozeki getting a M10e while both of them are virtually out of contention. Miracles of two Ozeki deemed unworthy to do their job. Both Shodai and Mitakeumi have in fact alternative opponents, the latter facing desperate KK-chaser Endo (good luck, Mita). Day 14 pairing also tell us a lot about what are we can imagine to get Day 15. Tamawashi vs. Takayasu, for starters. The others will be likely paired by result instead of ranking. Hokutofuji, will perhaps get M2e Kotonowaka (already KK) instead of KK-chasing Hoshoryu. Wakatakakage... possibly Nishikifuji. The most difficult to place is Takakeisho, as his prospected fellow Ozeki opponents will be likely placed against some desperate MK lower Maegashira. The Hamster has basically run the whole joy, yusho hopefuls included. Perhaps he will get M5w Sadanoumi (already KK), or M6e Wakamotoharu (again KK and likely to get 9-5 against a melting down Oho tomorrow). Edited September 23, 2022 by Hankegami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,694 Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Koorifuu said: Well, well, well. As @Katooshu won't be surprised to hear, Otani's done it again - except it was even worse this time. Asakayama was on scolding duty today. Who's next? Congrats on the jonokuchi yusho, I guess. (This guy is singlehandedly going to risk already-endangered Miyagino's oyakata career, isn't he?) You Otani critics aren't going to like the shit-eating grin and peace sign he flashed in the hanamichi following his win. He was forced to apologize for that too during his NHK yusho interview. I imagine that deep down inside, Miyagino Oyakata doesn't give a rat's ass how his rikishi behave as long as they win. Edited September 23, 2022 by Kaninoyama 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted September 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said: You Otani critics aren't going to like the shit-eating grin and peace sign he flashed in the hanamichi following his win. He was forced to apologize for that too during his NHK yusho interview. I'd honestly probably find the whole thing morbidly hilarious if it wasn't for the fact he might just raise the temperature around ex-Hakuho to unbearable levels. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,433 Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kaninoyama said: That was an Ozeki-Takayasu tachiai from Takayasu. Yusho race down to three. Strictly speaking, all the 9-4 guys are still in with a shot at a playoff until the inevitable Tamawashi-Takayasu bout is announced for day 15. That’s the only remaining match-up that hasn’t happened between the top three. It’ll happen, no doubt, but on paper at least the trailers are still mathematically in it. Even then they could still be in it if Tamawashi and Takayasu both go into senshuraku with the same records as today (11-2 and 10-3) and then Takayasu wins to end 11-3 and take it to a playoff, which some of the 9-4 guys could join if they win out til Sunday. Edited September 23, 2022 by Eikokurai 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,665 Posted September 23, 2022 I was amused by Kotoeko and Hiradoumi both scanning around the shimpan for a raised hand, but at the other end of the makuuchi torikumi I laughed out loud at Wakatakakage's henka. I loved his poker-face as he took the audience's appreciation and the envelopes. Even if you hate henka, you've got to admit it was fitting. I thought Tamawashi looked relieved after his win over Nishikigifuji - pressure showing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsubame 356 Posted September 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Koorifuu said: Asakayama was on scolding duty today. Who's next? What was the context of the scolding? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 886 Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tsubame said: What was the context of the scolding? Same as Day 9 - a blatant dame-oshi after an easy win. The first one was petulant but innocuous - he got scolded by another shimpan, I'm afraid I don't know who that was. But this time he actually sent the kid rolling over the waiting gyoji. Edited September 23, 2022 by Koorifuu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 39,805 Posted September 23, 2022 27 minutes ago, Hankegami said: Day 14 pairing also tell us a lot about what are we can imagine to get Day 15. Tamawashi vs. Takayasu, for starters. The others will be likely paired by result instead of ranking. Hokutofuji, will perhaps get M2e Kotonowaka (already KK) instead of KK-chasing Hoshoryu. Wakatakakage... possibly Nishikifuji. The most difficult to place is Takakeisho, as his prospected fellow Ozeki opponents will be likely placed against some desperate MK lower Maegashira. The Hamster has basically run the whole joy, yusho hopefuls included. Perhaps he will get M5w Sadanoumi (already KK), or M6e Wakamotoharu (again KK and likely to get 9-5 against a melting down Oho tomorrow). There will surely be a 2 ozeki bout to finish the basho, banzukewise Takakeisho-Shodai - it is enough that the day 14 ozeki bout was canceled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 1,256 Posted September 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Koorifuu said: Same as Day 9 - a blatant dame-oshi after an easy win. The first one was petulant but innocuous - he got scolded by another shimpan, I'm afraid I don't know who that was. But this time he actually sent the kid rolling over the waiting gyoji. Is there a video of this match available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hankegami 412 Posted September 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, sumojoann said: Is there a video of this match available? Seiyashi put a video in his excellent Promotion/Demotion and Yūshō Discussion Aki 2022 topic for today. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,071 Posted September 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said: You Otani critics aren't going to like the shit-eating grin and peace sign he flashed in the hanamichi following his win. He was forced to apologize for that too during his NHK yusho interview. Bloody hell. He's even worse of a liability than I thought. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites