Invite for GTB- July (Nagoya) 2022- 155 entries - RESULTS!!

[Reonito 393]

Wakamotoharu ahead of Ura?

[Chiyotasuke 65]

I basically made 2 banzuke with the distinction of komusubi slots. I finalized my entry with the 4 komusubi one, which I now regret.

[Seiyashi 2,742]

2 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Wakamotoharu ahead of Ura?

Yeah, as I mentioned on Tachiai, I thought the committee would reward a full 15 day record instead of a kyūjō late as it was. It's a weird thought, but that's apparently not the only one I had, either.

[Jakusotsu 4,539]

9 hours ago, Fujisan said:

Damn missed Ichinojo's co-vid withdrawal .

That will cost me!

Oops! Me too...

[robnplunder 944]

I went with 3 Komusubis.  If I got it right, I will surely make KK.  If not, I will probably go 3-12 or worse.   Did anyone else go with 3 Komusubi slots?

[Ganzohnesushi 381]

4 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Oops! Me too...

LOL... and then we were three    Stupido!

Ganzohnesushi 

[Sumo Spiffy 55]

6 hours ago, robnplunder said:

I went with 3 Komusubis.  If I got it right, I will surely make KK.  If not, I will probably go 3-12 or worse.   Did anyone else go with 3 Komusubi slots?

I tried to figure out any logic for adding more komusubi slots, but I looked through as many banzukes as I could and I just couldn't find enough situations where K (or S) slots were added due to exceptional performance to land on a rationale for doing it here. It's simply quite rare to have as many guys perform well at high ranks and in the lower sanyaku in a single basho as happened here.

I even made a video about it! :D

 

[Reonito 393]

8 hours ago, robnplunder said:

I went with 3 Komusubis.  If I got it right, I will surely make KK.  If not, I will probably go 3-12 or worse.   Did anyone else go with 3 Komusubi slots?

It's hard to see creating one for Kiribayama or Takanosho (not sure which you went with) but not both.

[Suwihuto 80]

I really struggled with this:

[Sumo Spiffy 55]

3 hours ago, Reonito said:

It's hard to see creating one for Kiribayama or Takanosho (not sure which you went with) but not both.

I hadn't thought about it like this, but it makes sense. They even rose to the same theoretical level and would be naturally split east and west.

I stuck with two because it feels like the reason to do this would be to allow the guys below to hold a higher numerical rank, even though they're not actually any higher on the banzuke relative to everyone else, and not as an appropriate reward for Kiri or Taka. So, I don't think they'll do that.

[Reonito 393]

49 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

I hadn't thought about it like this, but it makes sense. They even rose to the same theoretical level and would be naturally split east and west.

I stuck with two because it feels like the reason to do this would be to allow the guys below to hold a higher numerical rank, even though they're not actually any higher on the banzuke relative to everyone else, and not as an appropriate reward for Kiri or Taka. So, I don't think they'll do that.

I agree it's most likely to be 2; just saying in the unlikely event it's more than 2, 4 is far more likely than 3.

[Kintamayama 38,763]

On 21/06/2022 at 09:42, robnplunder said:

I went with 3 Komusubis.  If I got it right, I will surely make KK.  If not, I will probably go 3-12 or worse.   Did anyone else go with 3 Komusubi slots?

Me. Bad news.

[Tigerboy1966 870]

You know, I was wondering why everyone who had posted predictions had Takarafuji much higher than I did. I thought I'd better check and oh deary me... When I entered the data into my little spreadsheet I gave our favourite swordbearer a 3-12 rather than a 4-11. So that's everything from M12 to M15 most royally banjaxed.

Garbage in, Garbage out, I suppose

[Seiyashi 2,742]

1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

You know, I was wondering why everyone who had posted predictions had Takarafuji much higher than I did. I thought I'd better check and oh deary me... When I entered the data into my little spreadsheet I gave our favourite swordbearer a 3-12 rather than a 4-11. So that's everything from M12 to M15 most royally banjaxed.

Garbage in, Garbage out, I suppose

Big oooof.

[Reonito 393]

2 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

You know, I was wondering why everyone who had posted predictions had Takarafuji much higher than I did. I thought I'd better check and oh deary me... When I entered the data into my little spreadsheet I gave our favourite swordbearer a 3-12 rather than a 4-11. So that's everything from M12 to M15 most royally banjaxed.

Garbage in, Garbage out, I suppose

Been there, though fortunately have caught before entering.

[Gurowake 3,098]

2 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

You know, I was wondering why everyone who had posted predictions had Takarafuji much higher than I did. I thought I'd better check and oh deary me... When I entered the data into my little spreadsheet I gave our favourite swordbearer a 3-12 rather than a 4-11. So that's everything from M12 to M15 most royally banjaxed.

Garbage in, Garbage out, I suppose

It's errors like this that make me attempt to, in all cases possible, copy the data electronically from a trusted source rather than retyping it at all.

[Reonito 393]

1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

It's errors like this that make me attempt to, in all cases possible, copy the data electronically from a trusted source rather than retyping it at all.

Have you found a good way to copy/paste the win totals from sumodb into a spreadsheet? In my attempts it hasn't worked as intended in terms of having them as numbers I can compute on.

Edited June 23 by Reonito

[Yarimotsu 107]

1 hour ago, Reonito said:

Have you found a good way to copy/paste the win totals from sumodb into a spreadsheet? In my attempts it hasn't worked as intended in terms of having them as numbers I can compute on.

The way I do it works for what I do with the numbers. I put these options and just copy that table directly: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=202205&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&spr=on&c=on&simple=on

[Reonito 393]

51 minutes ago, Yarimotsu said:

The way I do it works for what I do with the numbers. I put these options and just copy that table directly: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx?b=202205&heya=-1&shusshin=-1&spr=on&c=on&simple=on

Nice! I was missing the "simple style" option which lists the wins and losses as separate columns.

[Gurowake 3,098]

1 hour ago, Reonito said:

I was missing the "simple style" option which lists the wins and losses as separate columns.

Yes, that's exactly what I use.  You can see evidence of it in my banzuke posts that omit the number of absences, because those aren't listed in simple style.

[Tigerboy1966 870]

Thank you all for your sympathy for my predicament and advice on how to avoid repeating the blunder. It could have been worse: the error came when I incorrectly recorded the pride of Nakadomari (sorry Onosho fans) as losing to Kotokuzan on day 15. Fortunately for me, KTZ's rank is unlikely to be relevant in this GTB.

[Reonito 393]

69 points I think. I have a feeling this will be a really high-scoring edition. What I got wrong: flipped Takayasu and Wakamotoharu, flipped Shimanoumi and Nishikigi, flipped Onosho and Tsurugisho, and placed Chiyomaru ahead of Daiamami and Nishikifuji.

[Shatsume 106]

71 for me I think. Swapping Tsurugisho and Onosho at the very last minute may have been a very very costly mistake 

[Hidenotora 58]

60 here I think, I thought that was decent but seems like it will be a high scoring one on the whole. I missed a lot of stuff by half a rank, but the half rank that gets you no points in this game. I only got bullseyes and misses, no one pointers here, even number only gang! (I think anyway)

[Asashosakari 16,484]

67 here. Nishikigi/Shimanoumi and Tsurugisho/Onosho for me, too, plus a rather suboptimal maegashira-joi (Takanosho/Ichinojo for -4, Ura/Wakamotoharu/Takayasu for -5).