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Wow - thanks for that post, great to know! He has height and skill for sure.

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Might be the next Hakuhō in terms of strength of lineage. His father won Mongolia's Nadaam 4 times (vs Hakuhō's father's 6).

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On 17/07/2022 at 11:43, Katooshu said:

The National Kanazawa Tournament was just held. To sum it up - West Japan underdogs score big; the usual stars sitting out.

I mentioned earlier that Kanazawa Gakuin University was putting together a good team, and today really showed it. They won the team event, with a 3-2 victory in the final over Nippon Sports Science University. While NSSU fell short, it was a very good result for them considering their 2 best competitors (Nakamura and Hanada) didn't compete, and I don't think Choijil (probably their #3 or #4) did either. From the results, it looks like Naoya Kusano and Kazuma Kawabuchi were also absent for Nihon University, so that's a lot of top talent absent from this tournament.

The individual event was won by a tall Mongolian from Doshisha University, whose name escapes me. He has caught my eye before and has solid belt skills, though has generally been overpowered by the top competitors. Runner-up was Shun Ikeda of Kanazawa Gakuin, and losing semifinalists were Masai Hanaoaka from Nihon University and Ryoma Ishizaki from NSSU. 

Pics from the papers

individuals - Takada from Todai

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best 4

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the rest are Kanazawa gakuin members

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team final bout  - against another Nittaidai Mongolian member, ブフチョローン ?Buhchoroon?, from Kashiwa high like Hoshoryu

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from the sf vs. Takushoku

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winners Kanazawa gakuin

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If I recall correctly, NSSU's blog stated that Buchooron won a national high school title in wrestling. He was best 8 at the East Japan Championships and scored important wins in the team competition there too, including the decisive victory to win the event. He clearly has skill but needs more power and acclimatization to sumo - this is his first year of regular competition. 

By the way, I wonder what's up with Choijil's high school buddy, Dalai (I forgot the spelling)? He hasn't been seen in ages - if he's injured it must be very serious. Already in his 2nd-year he made the All Japan best 8, best 8 at this event, and won the fighting spirit prize for going 7-0 at the 9-man 'league' tournament. He looked poised to be among the top competitors in his 3rd and 4th years, and NSSU would be even tougher to beat with him active on the team.

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NSSU's posted some of the team matches - and from their blog seem unhappy with the call in the match that won it for Kanazawa Gakuin - Buchooron vs Omori.

They have good reason to be upset too. Omori in the white looks out there, but was called the winner.

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The same channel posted the team finals too, and presumably will post the individuals. 

The wrong call was definitely made in the team final - honest mistake, or pulling for the home team? 

 

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East Japan and West Japan both held their weight class tournaments today. Haven't seen the West Japan tournament yet, but in East Japan Nippon Sports Science University won a record 7 of the 8 divisions.

Defending amateur yokozuna Nakamura won the 135kg+ division, while team mate Choijilsuren won openweight. Rising Mongolian Bucheroon won at 115kg for NSSU, beating former sekitori Ryuko's brother in the final. Masei Hanaoaka of Nihon University was the only winner not from NSSU, putting his smooth skills to use in the 135kg division. Hidetora Hanada didn't compete in this one, and thus won't be at nationals in 3 weeks either. Kazuma Kawabuchi, formerly Nihon University's top competitor, hasn't been in action at all this year after suffering a serious injury at the National Student Championship last fall.

The Nihon coaches handled that situation terribly by the way, and I hope Kawabuchi doesn't pay the price long-term. He was badly injured in a quarterfinal team match and couldn't leave the dohyo on his own, yet was in the lineup for the semifinal match shortly after, where he immediately collapsed and needed to be carried off again. He clearly shouldn't have been allowed to compete after being injured, but I guess straight up forfeiting that match wasn't in the cards....

Nakamura beating Nihon University's Shiroma in the 135kg+ final

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Didn't watch any video of this yet but nice to learn that Choijil is still doing good after his little injury. The guy had a pretty good 2022 so far

About Kawabuchi i am with you, that was painfull to watch. I hope he will be able to bounce back. I only started watching college sumo a few months before the injury but from what i saw and what you guys were saying about him, he was looking like a very good prospect

 

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Seemed to me like a case of putting the team's immediate result ahead of the competitor's well being. Even if Kawabuchi had wanted to compete, he shouldn't have been allowed.

He was a very good prospect and Nihon's most consistent team member. Not often you see someone almost 200kg with that skill and balance.

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The East Japan weight class championships were the first event in amateur sumo that introduced video assistance for the shimpan. In case of igi moushitate (the mono-ii in amateur sumo), the shimpan at their conference on the dohyo checked the recordings of the 4 iPads that were placed in the 4 corners of the dohyo. Also in amateur tournaments, misjudgements happened frequently lately.  https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2022/09/04/kiji/20220904s00005000554000c.html

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On 04/09/2022 at 12:59, Katooshu said:

Defending amateur yokozuna Nakamura won the 135kg+ division, while team mate Choijilsuren won openweight.

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live streams

East Japan championships from the sumo federation channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpXmbJOYBsU

 

West Japan championships - quite shaky videos from the West Japan student sumo federation channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqNZHpAB1DM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujPNXxLC3is

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As day 1 of the Aki basho unfolded, Nippon Sports Science University was busy solidifying their position as the top team in college sumo.

Their team of Nakamura, Ishizaki, and Choijil won the Kariya Business-Student Championship, with a total of 17 wins out of a possible 18. The only loss was suffered by Ishizaki in the final vs Kinki University, but his team mates followed with wins to secure the yusho.

Choijil also made it to the finals of the individual competition, but was beaten by corporate competitor Takeuchi, who graduated from Nihon University a few years ago. In fact his picture is still on their outdated website: http://www.nu-sumoclub.com/member.html

Losing semifinalists were Mantaro Haruyama of Nihon University and Shun Ikeda of Kanazawa Gakuin. Haruyama pulled a big upset, side stepping reigning amateur yokozuna Daiki Nakamura, who had easily won his previous 8 matches in the tournament. It's revenge of sorts for Haruyama, as Nakamura bulldozed him in the individual yusho match of a national tournament back in high school.

Team winner

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Individual

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2-time High School Yokozuna and amateur sumo superstar Tetsuya Ochiai has become this year's Corporate Yokozuna. He won today's corporate championships in Ehime, beating ex-corporate yokozuna Soichiro Kurokawa in the final. He represented his dad's company Noda-gumi, and now has a Makushita 15 tsukedashi if he chooses to use it. He is only the second high school graduate in history to win this tournament on his first attempt (after Ichinojo).

 

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If this was what Ochiai was waiting for, does that come in time for him to be given Ms15TD for Kyūshū? And does that make Miyagino the first heya to have two Ms15TDs starting in consecutive basho?

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So let me get this right, you can participate in the corporate championships even as a high schooler or college student as long as you can get some company to make you a temporary intern? Why aren't all the top guys doing this then

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I don't think you can compete if you are currently a high schooler or university student. Ochiai graduated high school last year and didn't go to college, so he is neither.

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8 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

I don't think you can compete if you are currently a high schooler or university student. Ochiai graduated high school last year and didn't go to college, so he is neither.

Graduated last year meaning 2021 (calendar), or 2022 (academic)?

If the former, it doesn't seem like it makes much sense unless injury healing was part of the timing. Surely someone of his calibre would make Ms15 or thereabouts faster than 8-9 basho. But if this year, then with his dad's connections it's certainly a smart move as it not only guarantees the TD but perhaps a basho or even two faster than if he were to go in from maezumo.

That said, wasn't it him who had actually already secured some kind of tsukedashi status via the usual high school competitions during the coronovirus situation? Did it turn out to not be extendable for the second year or something?

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It would've been March 2022 I guess. He could've started ozumo that month (or potentially even January) at Sd100TD with the qualification he earned at the 2021 All Japan Championship. 

If he'd done that he'd have been ahead of his peers and have a shot to be around Ms15 for November as well, though obviously it wouldn't be guaranteed in the same way as getting the Ms15TD qualification he now has.

His Sd100TD from 2021 is still active, so if he'd failed to place in the corporate tournament he could still have started this year in sandanme, but he would've fallen behind his peers who started from maezumo.

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1 hour ago, Seiyashi said:

If this was what Ochiai was waiting for, does that come in time for him to be given Ms15TD for Kyūshū? And does that make Miyagino the first heya to have two Ms15TDs starting in consecutive basho?

Ochiai graduated in March, remember that he was at the last All Japan as high school student. Sponichi writes that which heya he'll chose and which basho will be a point of media attention from now on - so the rumors here have yet to be proven. He said he wants to enter this year, but he may give the All Japan another try to aim for a ms10TD.

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On 25/04/2022 at 20:53, Akinomaki said:

He was interviewed at the (Koto-)Sakura-zumo kids tournament in Tottori, at which Ochiai started his sumo life. He's continuing with keiko at the moment (as Tottori Johoku staff I guess) and wants to join ozumo this year. Video: https://www.nkt-tv.co.jp/pc-news/news107547xcowq2k4t7nfi.html

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Thanks very much. That clears up the picture very nicely. Quite a smart series of moves to capitalise on the two-year validity due to corona to get himself a fair confirmed advantage in ozumo, although the marginal utility of going for the Ms10TD appears suspect unless it occurs before Kyūshū - which I assume it does for this move to make sense?

Ms10TD - if I recall correctly, that should be what Mitakeumi and Endō started as.

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He couldn't get the Ms10TD until December, as that's when the All Japan Championship is held that he'd need to win. Plus that's a very difficult tournament to win, as he'd have to face the best of the college world too. Last year he did very well in it to reach the best 8, but was manhandled by the winner Nakamura. And all it takes is a sneaky henka or one slip and that can be it in a sudden death format.

I would think if he could start next basho at Ms15TD, it would be a better move than trying for the Ms10TD - he is advanced enough that it's feasible for him to earn a record which promotes him above that.

But maybe he has a goal of becoming amateur yokozuna and it's not just about rank.....

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I think Ochiai might not be qualified to take part in the All Japan and thus won't plan for that, he's only 3rd dan right now, maybe he got that rank only recently and can't get to 4th immediately now - Ichi-nojo-norow didn't take part and joined immediately for Kyushu back in 2013

On 04/11/2019 at 21:03, Akinomaki said:

sumo renmei regulations http://www.nihonsumo-renmei.jp/about/pdf/kitei.pdf

Best 16 in the major tournaments get points.

Page 60 lists a few more requirements: business people have to be 4th dan, students 3rd dan, high school students 2nd dan, middle school shodan - this implies that the middle school yokozuna can compete in the kokutai juniors - and adults 3rd dan - but who'd be in this category?  Ronin maybe, or just after high school and not yet employed - but they would still have to be in corporate sumo to get points.

Kushima(umi), the only winner of the All Japan ever as high school student, therefore had to be 2nd dan at the time, and Ichinojo-norow, the winner of the corporate championships just after high school, could then not participate in the All Japan because he wasn't 4th dan - with his Tottori Johoku teacher job he should have qualified as shakaijin

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