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Game 21 for the Natsu 2022 Basho

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Welcome to Game 21 for the Natsu 2022 Basho.

As is now customary, I am launching the game today and Profomisakari will be back for the day to day comments.

So, let's play!

 

HOW TO PLAY GAME 21

 

Shortly after the Banzuke is published, 21 potential bouts are selected by the admins. You just have to decide which bouts will or will not take place and, if they will, who you think will be the winners.

 

Each correct pick will earn you one point. If a Rikishi is listed in one of the potential bouts but never appears on the Torikumi for the 15 days of the Basho, the bout will be counted as correct for all the players. If two or more entrants end up with the same number of correct picks, the two following tiebreaker rules will apply:

  • TB1: entrants will earn TB points for their ability to spot winning outsiders (i.e. the fewer players pick up a Rikishi the more points you score) and the entrant with most TB points will be the winner.

  • TB2: if the first tiebreaker does not suffice to separate them, the entrant with the earliest submission time will be declared the winner.

 

The deadline to play is the Friday before Shonichi at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC)

 

If you want to play, simply click the link below. it will take you to a multiple-choice form that will offer you three choices for each bout: 

  • A if you think the first Rikishi will win

  • B if you think the second Rikishi will win

  • X if you think the bout will not take place

 

In addition to your picks and your Shikona, the form will ask for a valid email address. The reason for this request is (a) to allow the system to send you a copy of your picks and (b) to allow you to update your choices until the deadline by clicking the “Edit Response'' button that is in the email.

 

Besides, after you have submitted your choices, you will have access to global selection statistics (not individual player’s picks).

 

So, if you want to play for the upcoming Haru Basho, HERE IS THE LINK.

 

The deadline to play is Friday 6 May at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC)

 

To help you prepare your picks before getting to the form itself, here are the bouts for the upcoming Basho:

 

Hatsu 22 History Rank A #   Rank B # X
1 1-1 S1w Abi 0   Y1e Terunofuji 0 0
2 6-5 M11e Aoiyama 0   M10w Nishikigi 0 0
3 2-3 M15e Azumaryu 0   M5e Onosho 0 0
4 4-4 M11w Chiyoshoma 0   M12e Myogiryu 0 0
5 7-6 M13e Chiyotairyu 0   M16e Ishiura 0 0
6 3-4 K1w Daieisho 0   S1e Wakatakakage 0 0
7 5-8[-1] M4e Endo 0   M4w Takanosho 0 0
8 8[-1]-10 M3e Hokutofuji 0   M1e Takayasu 0 0
9 3-3 K1e Hoshoryu 0   M2e Kiribayama 0 0
10 10-9[-1] M1w Ichinojo 0   M3w Tamawashi 0 0
11 1-0 M15w Ichiyamamoto 0   M10e Okinoumi 0 0
12 1-1 M17w Kagayaki 0   M16w Midorifuji 0 0
13 3-3 M7w Kotoeko 0   M5w Tobizaru 0 0
14 1-0 M17e Kotokuzan 0   M14w Yutakayama 0 0
15 1-1 M2w Kotonowaka 0   O1e Mitakeumi 0 0
16 2-2 M9e Kotoshoho 0   M14e Oho 0 0
17 5-5 M13w Meisei 0   M12w Sadanoumi 0 0
18 1-1 M8e Shimanoumi 0   M9w Tochinoshin 0 0
19 6-10 O1w Shodai 0   O2w Takakeisho 0 0
20 1-1 M7e Takarafuji 0   M6e Ura 0 0
21 1-2 M8w Terutsuyoshi 0   M6w Wakamotoharu 0 0

 

And if you find that the game is more fun if you can have an idea of the picks of the other players, you can see the minute-by-minute evolution of the choices FOLLOWING THIS LINK.

Good luck to all.

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Posted (edited)

Also, here is something new.

Since Game 21 is not properly suited to establish a Banzuke, but (a) I know some of you are keen on statistics and (b) I would like to ensure as much regular participation as possible, I suggest introducing a ranking system (in fact, two ranking systems):

6 Basho Rolling Ranking 2022 Ranking
Shikona Average Points Average TB # of Basho Shikona Total Points Total TB # of Basho
Flohru 13 176.5 2 Flohru 26 353 2
Hakuryuho 12 130.5 2 Hakuryuho 24 261 2
Yarimotsu 11.5 149 2 Yarimotsu 23 298 2
shimodahito 11.5 147.5 2 shimodahito 23 295 2
Oortael 11.5 140.5 2 Oortael 23 281 2
Profomisakari 11.5 134 2 Profomisakari 23 268 2
Asapedroryu 11 128.5 2 Asapedroryu 22 257 2
Chankomafuji 11 120.5 2 Chankomafuji 22 241 2
WAKATAKE 10.5 109.5 2 WAKATAKE 21 219 2
ChickyStarr 10.5 105.5 2 ChickyStarr 21 211 2
Asojima 10 134.5 2 Asojima 20 269 2
Athenayama 10 113.5 2 Athenayama 20 227 2
Karasukurai 10 109.5 2 Karasukurai 20 219 2
Tameiki 10 108.5 2 Tameiki 20 217 2
ScreechingOwl 10 96 2 ScreechingOwl 20 192 2
Mmikasazuma 10 97 1 Shatsume 19 208 2
Achiyama 10 94 1 Wamahada 18 197 2
Shatsume 9.5 104 2 Kellyama 17 202 2
Wamahada 9 98.5 2 RaeucherLax 17 171 2
Hoshotakamoto 9 125 1 Susanoo 17 153 2
Gansekiiwa 9 70 1 kujo 17 143 2
Kellyama 8.5 101 2 Fujisan 16 147 2
RaeucherLax 8.5 85.5 2 Benihana 16 144 2
Susanoo 8.5 76.5 2 Tochinofuji 15 154 2
kujo 8.5 71.5 2 Hakuhonofan 14 146 2
Fujisan 8 73.5 2 chishafuwaku 12 172 2
Benihana 8 72 2 Mmikasazuma 10 97 1
Peeter 8 88 1 Achiyama 10 94 1
Tochinofuji 7.5 77 2 Hoshotakamoto 9 125 1
Hakuhonofan 7 73 2 Gansekiiwa 9 70 1
Chartorenji 7 88 1 Peeter 8 88 1
chishafuwaku 6 86 2 Chartorenji 7 88 1
Suwihuto 6 77 1 Suwihuto 6 77 1

For the Rolling ranking, the number of Basho is the second tiebreaker, the highest number being better.

For the yearly ranking, the usual rules apply.

PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK.

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1 hour ago, Tameiki said:

The deadline to play is Friday 3 May at 11 AM (JST), 2 AM (UTC)

It's Friday the 6th of May isn't it?

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1 hour ago, RaeucherLax said:

It's Friday the 6th of May isn't it?

Thank you. Corrected.

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I like having the rolling ranking, puts some pressure on me to perform consistently (I will not).

I don't think it makes sense to have "average" in the headers of the yearly ranking if they are just sum totals?

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4 hours ago, Yarimotsu said:

I don't think it makes sense to have "average" in the headers of the yearly ranking if they are just sum totals?

The joys of copy-pasting... :'-( Correction made.

Thank you also for your comment.

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Only 5 players registered after 4 days: Tochinofuji, Asojima, Hoshotakamoto, Yarimotsu, and RaeucherLax.

Let's hope it is only procrastination or peoople still in shock after they saw the May Banzuke.

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After 6 days, we only have 8 players registeredTochinofuji, Asojima, Hoshotakamoto, Yarimotsu, RaeucherLax, Karasakurai, Chankomafuji, and Sumo Spiffy. 

A special welcome to newcomer @Sumo Spiffy.

On the other hand, we are still waiting for @Achiyama @Asapedroryu @Athenayama @Benihana @Chartorenji @ChickyStarr @chishafuwaku @Flohru @Fujisan @Hakuhonofan @Hakuryuho @Karasukurai @Kellyama @Kujo @Mmikasazuma @Nekonoyama @Oortael @Peeter @Profomisakari @Rocks (aka Gansekiiwa) @ScreechingOwl @Shatsume @shimodahito @Susanoo @Suwihuto @Tenshinhan Tochiyatsu  @Unkonoyama @WAKATAKE  @Wamahada  

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Fujisan gets in early for a change but if I do badly I will blame the rijicho.;-)

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2 hours ago, Fujisan said:

Fujisan gets in early for a change but if I do badly I will blame the rijicho.;-)

Who have you been blaming for the last 14 years?  (Laughing...)

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33 minutes ago, Asojima said:

Who have you been blaming for the last 14 years?  (Laughing...)

Mostly the rikishi I picked.(Ragingatcomputer...);-)

People think I am a bad loser but I am quite a good loser, comes with experience.;-)

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Only 2 days to go and 22 players registeredTochinofuji, Asojima, Hoshotakamoto, Yarimotsu, RaeucherLax, Karasukurai, Chankomafuji, Sumo Spiffy, Suwihoto, Hakuryuho, Kellyama, chishafuwaku, Chartorenji, Profomisakari, Wamahada, Athenayama, ChickyStarr, Susanoo, Asapedroyu, Peeter, Fujisan, and Mmikasazuma.

So still hoping for the participation of @Achiyama @Benihana @Flohru @Hakuhonofan @Kujo @Nekonoyama @Oortael  @Rocks (aka Gansekiiwa) @ScreechingOwl @Shatsume @shimodahito @Tenshinhan Tochiyatsu  @Unkonoyama @WAKATAKE   

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I'm the top list (6th) but my shikona has a typo. :-P I might have typoed on my entry. Anyway, I look forward to another mediocre or poor performance in Game21 !!

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10 hours ago, Karasukurai said:

I'm the top list (6th) but my shikona has a typo. :-P I might have typoed on my entry. Anyway, I look forward to another mediocre or poor performance in Game21 !!

Apologies. The typo was mine :-S (and has been corrected).

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Just over 1 day left and 26 players registeredTochinofuji, Asojima, Hoshotakamoto, Yarimotsu, RaeucherLax, Karasukurai, Chankomafuji, Sumo Spiffy, Suwihoto, Hakuryuho, Kellyama, chishafuwaku, Chartorenji, Profomisakari, Wamahada, Athenayama, ChickyStarr, Susanoo, Asapedroyu, Peeter, Fujisan, Mmikasazuma, Oortael, Shatsume, Flohru, and Tameiki.

So still hoping for the participation of @Achiyama @Benihana @Hakuhonofan @Kujo @Nekonoyama  @Rocks (aka Gansekiiwa) @ScreechingOwl @shimodahito @Tenshinhan Tochiyatsu  @Unkonoyama @WAKATAKE   

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A few hours left and 31 players registeredTochinofuji, Asojima, Hoshotakamoto, Yarimotsu, RaeucherLax, Karasukurai, Chankomafuji, Sumo Spiffy, Suwihoto, Hakuryuho, Kellyama, chishafuwaku, Chartorenji, Profomisakari, Wamahada, Athenayama, ChickyStarr, Susanoo, Asapedroyu, Peeter, Fujisan, Mmikasazuma, Oortael, Shatsume, Flohru, Tameiki, Benihana, Achiyama, Wakatake, kujo, and Hakuhonofan.

And still hoping for the participation of @Nekonoyama  @Rocks (aka Gansekiiwa) @ScreechingOwl @shimodahito @Tenshinhan Tochiyatsu  @Unkonoyama 

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In spite of the absence of a few veterans, we have reached the nice total of 31 participants. Well done!

As is now customary, Profomisakari will be in charge of the updates until the end of the Basho and below are the three usual tables: the SUMMARY OF ALL THE CHOICES, the RECAP OF YOUR INDIVIDUAL PICKS (in order of submission), and the DEVIATIONS (the higher the total, the more unique the choices).

 

Natsu 22 History Rank A # Picks   Rank B # Picks X
1 1-1 S1w Abi 5   Y1e Terunofuji 21 5
2 6-5 M11e Aoiyama 20   M10w Nishikigi 11 0
3 2-3 M15e Azumaryu 3   M5e Onosho 12 16
4 4-4 M11w Chiyoshoma 14   M12e Myogiryu 17 0
5 7-6 M13e Chiyotairyu 15   M16e Ishiura 14 2
6 3-4 K1w Daieisho 4   S1e Wakatakakage 27 0
7 5-8[-1] M4e Endo 11   M4w Takanosho 19 1
8 8[-1]-10 M3e Hokutofuji 5   M1e Takayasu 26 0
9 3-3 K1e Hoshoryu 24   M2e Kiribayama 6 1
10 10-9[-1] M1w Ichinojo 20   M3w Tamawashi 4 7
11 1-0 M15w Ichiyamamoto 16   M10e Okinoumi 7 8
12 1-1 M17w Kagayaki 11   M16w Midorifuji 20 0
13 3-3 M7w Kotoeko 13   M5w Tobizaru 17 1
14 1-0 M17e Kotokuzan 17   M14w Yutakayama 11 3
15 1-1 M2w Kotonowaka 3   O1e Mitakeumi 28 0
16 2-2 M9e Kotoshoho 13   M14e Oho 13 5
17 5-5 M13w Meisei 20   M12w Sadanoumi 11 0
18 1-1 M8e Shimanoumi 14   M9w Tochinoshin 16 1
19 6-10 O1w Shodai 10   O2w Takakeisho 19 2
20 1-1 M7e Takarafuji 17   M6e Ura 14 0
21 1-2 M8w Terutsuyoshi 5   M6w Wakamotoharu 25 1

 

Bout Nr
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
19
20
21
Shikona
Tochinofuji B A B B B B B B A A B B B B B B B B A A B
Asojima X B X A X B A B A A X A A X B X B B X A A
Hoshotakamoto B A X B A B B B A A X A X B B A A B B B X
Yarimotsu A B X B B B A B A X A B B B B A B B B A B
RaeucherLax B A B B A B A B A B A B A B B B A B A A B
Karasukurai B A B B A B A B A B A A A A B A B B B B B
Chankomafuji B A X A B A B B A A X B B A B X A B A B B
Sumo Spiffy B B X A X B A B A A X B B X A X B A B A B
Suwihuto B A A B A B X A X A A B B X B B A X B B A
Hakuryuho B A X B B B B B A A X B A B A A A A A B B
Kellyama B B A A B B B B A B A B B A B B B B A B B
chishafuwaku B B B A A A B B B A B B A A B B B A A A B
Chartorenji A B B A B B A A A A A B B A B B A A B B B
Profomisakari A B X B A B B B B A X B B B B X B B B A B
Wamahada B A B A B B B A A A A B A B B A A B A A A
Athenayama X B X A B B B B A A B B B A B B B A A A B
ChickyStarr B A X A A A B B B B B A A A A B A A B A B
Susanoo X B X A B B B B A X A B B A B A A A A A B
Asapedroryu X A X A A B B B A X A A A A B B A A X A B
Peeter B B X B A B A B A A X B A A B A A B A A B
Fujisan B A B B A A B B A A A B B B B A A A B B B
Mmikasazuma B A B A A B A B A A A A A A B A A B B B B
Oortael B B X B B B B B B X A B B A B B A A B B B
Shatsume A A X A B B A B B X B B B B B A B A B B B
Flohru X A X B B B B B A A X A B A B X A A B B B
Tameiki B A A B A B B A A A A B A A B B A B B A A
Achiyama B A B B A B B B A A A A B A B A A B B A B
WAKATAKE A A B A A B A B B A A A A B B B A B B A A
kujo B A X B B B A A A X B B A B B A A A B B B
Hakuhonofan B A B B A B B B A A A A B A B B A A B A B
Benihana B A B B B B B B A X B A B A B A B B B B B

 

Maximum 490
Asojima 376
Suwihuto 365
ChickyStarr 347
Sumo Spiffy 337
chishafuwaku 328
Shatsume 326
WAKATAKE 326
Profomisakari 312
Wamahada 306
Chartorenji 305
kujo 305
Hoshotakamoto 304
Asapedroryu 302
Kellyama 301
Yarimotsu 300
Hakuryuho 296
Athenayama 296
Tameiki 296
Chankomafuji 293
Karasukurai 291
Susanoo 291
Benihana 286
RaeucherLax 285
Flohru 285
Oortael 284
Tochinofuji 276
Peeter 276
Fujisan 276
Mmikasazuma 269
Hakuhonofan 253
Achiyama 251
Minimum 222
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Thank you Tameiki for this good work.

Each Basho one more player !
So we can hope to have in 10 years 91 participants! ;-)

Here I've the bout results table.
I will daily post here all bout dates and results.

Nr A - B A B X Day Result
1 S1w Abi - Y1e Terunofuji 5 21 5    
2 M11e Aoiyama - M10w Nishikigi 20 11 0 1 A
3 M15e Azumaryu - M5e Onosho 3 12 16    
4 M11w Chiyoshoma - M12e Myogiryu 14 17 0 1 B
5 M13e Chiyotairyu - M16e Ishiura 15 14 2    
6 K1w Daieisho - S1e Wakatakakage 4 27 0 4 A
7 M4e Endo - M4w Takanosho 11 19 1    
8 M3e Hokutofuji - M1e Takayasu 5 26 0    
9 K1e Hoshoryu M2e Kiribayama 24 6 1    
10 M1w Ichinojo M3w - Tamawashi 20 4 7    
11 M15w Ichiyamamoto - M10e Okinoumi 16 7 8    
12 M17w Kagayaki - M16w Midorifuji 11 20 0 2 B
13 M7w Kotoeko - M5w Tobizaru 13 17 1 4 B
14 M17e Kotokuzan - M14w Yutakayama 17 11 3    
15 M2w Kotonowaka - O1e Mitakeumi 3 28 0 3 A
16 M9e Kotoshoho - M14e Oho 13 13 5 8  
17 M13w Meisei - M12w Sadanoumi 20 11 0 3 B
18 M8e Shimanoumi - M9w Tochinoshin 14 16 1    
19 O1w Shodai - O2w Takakeisho 10 19 2    
20 M7e Takarafuji - M6e Ura 17 14 0 2 B
21 M8w Terutsuyoshi - M6w Wakamotoharu 5 25 1 4 B

Corrected.
Please be not confused, Jim, I was it
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As we see: 
On each of the first three days were two game 21 bouts,
on day 4 were three.

On day 5. 6  and 7 we'll get no game 21 bouts.
On day 8 (Nakabi) we have after a long interrupt again one bout.
On day 9 we'll  again get no game 21 bouts.

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Abi - Terunofuji is not on day 1, nor is Onosho - Azumaryu. 
The Ozeki also do not fight against each other on day 2, nor do Itachiyama vs. Okinoumi.

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On day 1 we had two game 21 bouts.
13 Players had both bouts correct picked.
They lead now in the row of their vote input.

Tochinofuji is the first.

Rk Player Pts TB
1 Tochinofuji 2 25
2 Hoshotakamoto 2 25
3 RaeucherLax 2 25
4 Karasukurai 2 25
5 Suwihuto 2 25
6 Hakuryuho 2 25
7 Fujisan 2 25
8 Flohru 2 25
9 Tameiki 2 25
10 Achiyama 2 25
11 kujo 2 25
12 Hakuhonofan 2 25
13 Benihana 2 25
14 Yarimotsu 1 14
15 Profomisakari 1 14
16 Peeter 1 14
17 Oortael 1 14
18 Chankomafuji 1 11
19 Wamahada 1 11
20 ChickyStarr 1 11
21 Asapedroryu 1 11
22 Mmikasazuma 1 11
23 Shatsume 1 11
24 WAKATAKE 1 11
25 Asojima 0 0
26 Sumo Spiffy 0 0
27 Kellyama 0 0
28 chishafuwaku 0 0
29 Chartorenji 0 0
30 Athenayama 0 0
31 Susanoo 0 0

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I am sorry I missed the deadline to enter.  Have a great basho!
I missed all my day 1 game entries too.  

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After two days now we have 4 bouts.
Four players voted them all correct.
Leader per TB 2 is now Suwihito.

Rk Player Pts TB
1 Suwihuto 4 53
2 Hakuryuho 4 53
3 Fujisan 4 53
4 kujo 4 53
5 Hoshotakamoto 3 42
6 Karasukurai 3 42
7 Oortael 3 42
8 Flohru 3 42
9 Benihana 3 42
10 Chankomafuji 3 39
11 Shatsume 3 39
12 Tochinofuji 3 36
13 RaeucherLax 3 36
14 Tameiki 3 36
15 Kellyama 2 28
16 Chartorenji 2 28
17 Mmikasazuma 2 28
18 Yarimotsu 2 25
19 Profomisakari 2 25
20 Peeter 2 25
21 Achiyama 2 25
22 Hakuhonofan 2 25
23 Wamahada 2 22
24 Sumo Spiffy 1 11
25 chishafuwaku 1 11
26 Athenayama 1 11
27 ChickyStarr 1 11
28 Susanoo 1 11
29 Asapedroryu 1 11
30 WAKATAKE 1 11
31 Asojima 0 0

4 posts above I announced  in the bout list  the current bot results
and also tomorrow's both game 21 bouts. 

Profomisakari

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On 07/05/2022 at 18:22, Wamahada said:

Abi - Terunofuji is not on day 1, nor is Onosho - Azumaryu. 
The Ozeki also do not fight against each other on day 2, nor do Itachiyama vs. Okinoumi.

I think also Itachiyama has no intension to fight against Okinoumi  (Shakinghead...)

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Today we had again two game 21 bouts.
Both times we had a clear favorit, but both didn't win.
Especially the three players voting for Kotonowaka did  very good.
Now has nobody all bouts correct - and we have an sole leader:
Hakuryuho with 5 of possible 6  points before seven players with 4.

Rk Player Pts TB
1 Hakuryuho 5 81
2 Karasukurai 4 62
3 Benihana 4 62
4 Shatsume 4 59
5 Tochinofuji 4 56
6 Suwihuto 4 53
7 Fujisan 4 53
8 kujo 4 53
9 Sumo Spiffy 3 59
10 Kellyama 3 48
11 Yarimotsu 3 45
12 Profomisakari 3 45
13 Hoshotakamoto 3 42
14 Oortael 3 42
15 Flohru 3 42
16 Chankomafuji 3 39
17 RaeucherLax 3 36
18 Tameiki 3 36
19 ChickyStarr 2 39
20 chishafuwaku 2 31
21 Athenayama 2 31
22 Chartorenji 2 28
23 Mmikasazuma 2 28
24 Peeter 2 25
25 Achiyama 2 25
26 Hakuhonofan 2 25
27 Wamahada 2 22
28 Asojima 1 20
29 Susanoo 1 11
30 Asapedroryu 1 11
31 WAKATAKE 1 11

Tomorrow we get three game 21 bouts: Nr. 6, 13 and 21.

Profomisakari

 

 

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On day 4 we had three game 21 bouts.
Only Fujisan  and Chankomafuji had all three bouts correct voted.
They are the great winners of this day.

Fujisan leads now alone with 7 points before a pursuers group of 5 players with 6.
This lead will also remain on day 5 until 7, because then there will no be any game 21 bouts.

Rk Player Pts TB
1 Fujisan 7 100
2 Hakuryuho 6 87
3 Chankomafuji 6 86
4 Benihana 6 82
5 Shatsume 6 79
6 Tochinofuji 6 76
7 Sumo Spiffy 5 79
8 Karasukurai 5 68
9 Kellyama 5 68
10 Suwihuto 5 67
11 Yarimotsu 5 65
12 Profomisakari 5 65
13 Oortael 5 62
14 Flohru 5 62
15 kujo 5 59
16 ChickyStarr 4 72
17 chishafuwaku 4 64
18 Athenayama 4 51
19 Chartorenji 4 48
20 Achiyama 4 45
21 Hakuhonofan 4 45
22 RaeucherLax 4 42
23 Hoshotakamoto 3 42
24 Tameiki 3 36
25 Mmikasazuma 3 34
26 Susanoo 3 31
27 Peeter 3 31
28 Wamahada 2 22
29 Asapedroryu 2 17
30 Asojima 1 20
31 WAKATAKE 1 11

On day 5 until 7 will not take place any game 21 bouts.
On day 8 we have after a long interrupt again one bout.

Profomisakari

Edited by Profomisakari

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