Profomisakari 499 Posted May 9 The trains are not for me. I think about 4. Shodai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,134 Posted May 9 Over the last two years the shimpan have made an exception to the even day rule when it comes to same-ranked rikishi. If they follow this rule, the it'll be Tamawashi. However, this is a new set of shimpan, and prior to the previous set of shimpan they didn't follow the exception. In they follow this rule then it ought to be Onosho. I don't know what this set of shimpan is going to do. 4 Tamawashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 337 Posted May 9 Phew, almost forgot to make a pick; Sakura's reasoning is on point as always, might be worth rolling the dice on Onosho, but I'll join the train: 4. Tamawashi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 2,421 Posted May 9 44 minutes ago, Sakura said: Over the last two years the shimpan have made an exception to the even day rule when it comes to same-ranked rikishi. If they follow this rule, the it'll be Tamawashi. What's the even day rule? Seems with this new shimpan committee GTB and GHA are both being, or going to be, mixed up big time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 25 Posted May 10 4 hours ago, Seiyashi said: What's the even day rule? I'm curious about this myself. It must be the reason that, looking back at past bashos, the matchups don't go quite as expected even taking the number of sanyaku wrestlers into account and such, but I have no idea what it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 4,423 Posted May 10 11 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said: I made a different guess from everyone else day 1 and 2 until I realized how my thinking had been off. The same thing might happen here, but for now: Daieisho. Daieisho was my first pick as well until I counted the remaining intra-sanyaku matchups and realized there will be two each day from now on. On the other hand, I can't see how Hokutofuji-Tamawashi would have violated the even-day-rule in any way, but that's why I'm just the reporter and not yokozuna anymore. Gurowake gets the reward for his boldness. Gurowake (YOw) 4-0 Sakura (Y1e) 3-1 Reonito (YOe) 3-1 Oshirokita (S1e) 3-1 Jakusotsu (S1w) 3-1 Hakuhonofan (K1e) 3-1 Profomisakari (M1e) 3-1 WAKATAKE (M2w) 3-0-1 Jejima (M3e) 3-1 Chartorenji (M4w) 3-1 Sumo Spiffy (mz) 3-1 shimodahito (M1w) 1-3 Seiyashi (M2e) 1-3 Andonishiki (K1w) 0-3-1 Ryoshishokunin (M3w) 0-0-4 The Kyokai (M3e) 0-4 Hokutofuji's aites: 1. Wakatakakage, 2. Abi, 3. Hoshoryu, 4. Onosho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oshirokita 130 Posted May 10 Aha, I think I learned something new from the Day 4 torikumi. I'll have to see whether it will be helpful next basho. Day 5 - Terunofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 841 Posted May 10 2 hours ago, Oshirokita said: Aha, I think I learned something new from the Day 4 torikumi. I'll have to see whether it will be helpful next basho. Day 5 - Terunofuji I still have not learnt the even day rule.... 5 - Terunofuji, Shirley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,134 Posted May 10 (edited) 5 Terunofuji I had a nagging feeling that this group would abandon what the previous group was doing. Should have trusted my gut. Edited May 10 by Sakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 25 Posted May 10 7 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: Daieisho was my first pick as well until I counted the remaining intra-sanyaku matchups and realized there will be two each day from now on. On the other hand, I can't see how Hokutofuji-Tamawashi would have violated the even-day-rule in any way, but that's why I'm just the reporter and not yokozuna anymore. Gurowake gets the reward for his boldness. Still curious about this even-day rule, but I stayed away from Tamawashi solely because the M3s have barely fought each other over the last few years. I'd have to go back and check again to be sure, but since 2020 I think it's happened three times total, and only once in the first half of the basho. I have no clue why this is, but I figured it was a good reason to go a different direction. 5. Terunofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 337 Posted May 10 10 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: On the other hand, I can't see how Hokutofuji-Tamawashi would have violated the even-day-rule in any way, but that's why I'm just the reporter and not yokozuna anymore. Gurowake gets the reward for his boldness. Nice work @Gurowake I'm kicking myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,134 Posted May 10 41 minutes ago, Reonito said: Nice work @Gurowake I'm kicking myself. I'm kicking myself too. I wish I'd followed my gut. My 2 hours of research got me nowhere. Actually, it gave me information about what the last shimpan group did and what others groups before them had done. Ironically, If I hadn't done the research I would have picked the same as @Gurowake. A least we now have a data point as to how this group thinks. There are other parts of the torikumi on Day 4 which have been done differently than in the past, too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 2,421 Posted May 11 Rushing for the train... Day 5: Terunofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 4,423 Posted May 11 This was the biggest yield since day four of last year's Natsu Basho. Gurowake (YOw) 5-0 Sakura (Y1e) 4-1 Reonito (YOe) 4-1 Oshirokita (S1e) 4-1 Jakusotsu (S1w) 4-1 Hakuhonofan (K1e) 4-1 Profomisakari (M1e) 4-1 WAKATAKE (M2w) 4-0-1 Jejima (M3e) 4-1 Chartorenji (M4w) 4-1 Sumo Spiffy (mz) 4-1 shimodahito (M1w) 2-3 Seiyashi (M2e) 2-3 Andonishiki (K1w) 1-3-1 Ryoshishokunin (M3w) 0-0-5 The Kyokai (M3e) 0-5 Hokutofuji's aites: 1. Wakatakakage, 2. Abi, 3. Hoshoryu, 4. Onosho, 5. Terunofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
