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https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

Makuuchi

Terunofuji    Y    ---
Mitakeumi     O    Shodai
---           O    Takakeisho
Wakatakakage  S    Abi
Hoshoryu      K    Daieisho

Takayasu      M1   Ichinojo
Kiribayama    M2   Kotonowaka
Hokutofuji    M3   Tamawashi
Endo          M4   Takanosho
Onosho        M5   Tobizaru
Ura           M6   Wakamotoharu
Takarafuji    M7   Kotoeko
Shimanoumi    M8   Terutsuyoshi
Kotoshoho     M9   Tochinoshin
Okinoumi      M10  Nishikigi
Aoiyama       M11  Chiyoshoma
Myogiryu      M12  Sadanoumi
Chiyotairyu   M13  Meisei
Oho           M14  Yutakayama
Azumaryu      M15  Ichiyamamoto
Ishiura       M16  Midorifuji
Kotokuzan     M17  Kagayaki
 

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Juryo

Chiyomaru    J1   Hidenoumi
Chiyonokuni  J2   Tsurugisho
Mitoryu      J3   Ryuden
Akua         J4   Tohakuryu
Kitanowaka   J5   Daishoho
Daiamami     J6   Nishikifuji
Enho         J7   Yago
Tokushoryu   J8   Asanowaka
Kaisho       J9   Kaisei
Shimazuumi   J10  Bushozan
Hiradoumi    J11  Daishomaru
Shohozan     J12  Atamifuji
Chiyoarashi  J13  Tochimaru
Takakento    J14  Churanoumi
 

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Makushita-joi

Chiyonoumi     Ms1   Nishikawa
Hokuseiho      Ms2   Tsushimanada
Chiyosakae     Ms3   Hakuyozan
Roga           Ms4   Kinbozan
Kotoyusho      Ms5   Kamito
Kanno          Ms6   Shiden
Shishi         Ms7   Asagyokusei
Oshoma         Ms8   Akiseyama
Fukai          Ms9   Shonannoumi
Osanai         Ms10  Tomokaze
Fujiseiun      Ms11  Tsukahara
Hikarifuji     Ms12  Kainoshima
Ichiki         Ms13  Tochikamiyama
Tochinobori    Ms14  Hatooka
Hamayutaka     Ms15  Wakatakamoto
 

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Makushita

 

Jokoryu        Ms16  Kairyu
Oki            Ms17  Tsurubayashi
Narutaki       Ms18  Tochiseiryu
Tokunomusashi  Ms19  Suzuki
Chiyonoo       Ms20  Kitadaichi
Kirinofuji     Ms21  Sasakiyama
Tosamidori     Ms22  Yutakasho
Otsuji         Ms23  Nihonyanagi
Fujitoshi      Ms24  Kototsubasa
Daiyusho       Ms25  Yuki
Arauma         Ms26  Tamashoho
Oshoryu        Ms27  Chiyooga
Nionoumi       Ms28  Tanabe
Onojo          Ms29  Asabenkei
Kitaharima     Ms30  Daikisho
Hokutoshu      Ms31  Tokihayate
Kotohaguro     Ms32  Mukainakano
Shohoryu       Ms33  Daiseiryu
Chiyoraizan    Ms34  Hokaho
Tochikodai     Ms35  Ryusei
Fujiazuma      Ms36  Kotoozutsu
Omoto          Ms37  Oyamatoumi
Ryuo           Ms38  Wakenosato
Maikeru        Ms39  Nishinoryu
Ishizaki       Ms40  Hayatefuji
Kaizen         Ms41  Aozora
Mugendai       Ms42  Asanoyama
Okinofuji      Ms43  Dewanoryu
Asonoyama      Ms44  Asakoki
Tennozan       Ms45  Hokutenkai
Shosei         Ms46  Haruminato
Kiryuko        Ms47  Yoshii
Hokutoryu      Ms48  Kaishin
Shuji          Ms49  Hodaka
Amanoshima     Ms50  Asashiyu
Kaigo          Ms51  Tokisoma
Nabatame       Ms52  Kaiseijo
Amakaze        Ms53  Awanokuni
Nobehara       Ms54  Wakazakura
Gokushindo     Ms55  Hakuonada
Dewataikai     Ms56  Naya
Ohata          Ms57  Hoshuzan
Hinataryu      Ms58  Inoue
Kanzaki        Ms59  Suguro
Miyagi         Ms60  Kiyonoumi


Sandanme

 

Kotodairyu    Sd1   Wayama
Mineyaiba     Sd2   Yuma
Akitoba       Sd3   Taiga
Tomiyutaka    Sd4   Sazanami
Daishoki      Sd5   Oginohama
Kyokutaisei   Sd6   Obara
Chiyotora     Sd7   Mudoho
Sakai         Sd8   Daihisho
Kototakuya    Sd9   Kotodaigo
Roman         Sd10  Azumasho
Rao           Sd11  Fukamiyama
Onokura       Sd12  Asatenmai
Teraoumi      Sd13  Kyoda
Dainichido    Sd14  Katsunofuji
Mishima       Sd15  Oba
Oginosho      Sd16  Araoyama
Tokinohira    Sd17  Hitachigo
Kawabuchi     Sd18  Irodori
Sadanohikari  Sd19  Kototaiki
Nakashima     Sd20  Keitenkai
Sakurai       Sd21  Moji
Masuminato    Sd22  Kotoryusei
Fujiibuki     Sd23  Tanakayama
Oka           Sd24  Kotodaishin
Denuma        Sd25  Mitozakura
Kiyota        Sd26  Genkaiho
Fujinowaka    Sd27  Dewanojo
Saionji       Sd28  Shinohara
Taranami      Sd29  Kamitani
Hakuomaru     Sd30  Kisenoumi
Gorikiyama    Sd31  Hogasho
Chiyodaigo    Sd32  Mukaida
Miyata        Sd33  Takabayama
Kaorufuji     Sd34  Kaishinmaru
Chiyotaiho    Sd35  Daishomune
Oshoumi       Sd36  Taiyo
Hokutomaru    Sd37  Akinoyama
Sakabayashi   Sd38  Komanokuni
Nishikiryu    Sd39  Kinotsukasa
Nishikikuni   Sd40  Murayama
Kotonofuji    Sd41  Tsugaruumi
Raiho         Sd42  Tokio
Mochizuki     Sd43  Kenyu
Matsuda       Sd44  Hokutosakae
Taichiyama    Sd45  Yoshiazuma
Okinohama     Sd46  Sadanokuni
Dairaido      Sd47  Daishosei
Asanojo       Sd48  Ryuseio
Marusho       Sd49  Amane
Akiyoshi      Sd50  Chiyotenfu
Setonoumi     Sd51  Wakakinsho
Goshimaru     Sd52  Honma
Yokomaru      Sd53  Kotonoshu
Suio          Sd54  Ebisumaru
Nakaishi      Sd55  Shoji
Kototaiga     Sd56  Izumigawa
Azumasato     Sd57  Akatsuki
Tsunekawa     Sd58  Toshoyama
Asahabataki   Sd59  Senho
Mogamizakura  Sd60  Kanryu
Nagata        Sd61  Sekizuka
Souga         Sd62  Kotetsu
Kawamura      Sd63  Itadaki
Chiyonokatsu  Sd64  Takeoka
Asahanshin    Sd65  Hatsuyama
Sugawara      Sd66  Hokutokawa
Chiyohokkai   Sd67  Kayatoiwa
Biganzan      Sd68  Ryutsukasa
Chura         Sd69  Akisada
Hokutoiwa     Sd70  Ienoshima
Meiko         Sd71  Makio
Kyokuhozan    Sd72  Inaba
Ryuseiyama    Sd73  Furanshisu
Asakiryu      Sd74  Kotakiyama
Akashifuji    Sd75  Tosashimizu
Koki          Sd76  Chiyoshishi
Shoketsu      Sd77  Mihamaumi
Dewanosora    Sd78  Kenshin
Tenei         Sd79  Denzan
Kitanomine    Sd80  Aoi
Hamanoumi     Sd81  Takano
Tochimitsuru  Sd82  Kojikara
Oshozan       Sd83  Ieshima
Kumanoryu     Sd84  Ryubumaru
Asashinjo     Sd85  Kakutaiki
Ginseizan     Sd86  Nishida
Yusui         Sd87  Hidano
Chiyoyamato   Sd88  Anzai
Fukuazuma     Sd89  Aratakayama
Hokutoyakumo  Sd90  Baraki


Jonidan

 

Genbumaru      Jd1   Seigo
Wakahizen      Jd2   Iko
Amatsu         Jd3   Saidaiji
Kototora       Jd4   Oazuma
Ayaminato      Jd5   Yurikisho
Yoshino        Jd6   Miyabishin
Tatsuki        Jd7   Tanimoto
Kyokushori     Jd8   Takashoki
Ogitora        Jd9   Sawayaka
Tochinoshima   Jd10  Yukiamami
Hokuyozan      Jd11  Chiyotaisei
Kiryu          Jd12  Mori
Kaiyuma        Jd13  Musashiumi
Suonada        Jd14  Yasunishi
Sakurafuji     Jd15  Asakoga
Hienriki       Jd16  Chiyokozan
Fujimusashi    Jd17  Yamenosato
Toukiryu       Jd18  Fujinotani
Hokutohiro     Jd19  Daijo
Hamasu         Jd20  Ariake
Kototebakari   Jd21  Kotokenryu
Tsugunohana    Jd22  Fujiyuho
Hakuyo         Jd23  Chiyoresshi
Kotomyozan     Jd24  Shunrai
Hagane         Jd25  Miyakogawa
Tokinosato     Jd26  Ishii
Tsubakifuji    Jd27  Hokutoo
Kairo          Jd28  Kotokiho
Hokutoshin     Jd29  Tochigidake
Suzaki         Jd30  Wakatanaka
Hokutoyoshi    Jd31  Mizuno
Hirose         Jd32  Miyanofuji
Tochikasuga    Jd33  Mimurodake
Asaobora       Jd34  Minorufuji
Takanoryu      Jd35  Akatora
Wakaazuma      Jd36  Fujinonami
Hokuozan       Jd37  Wakakaneko
Chiyotaiko     Jd38  Takemaru
Goseiryu       Jd39  Tsukubayama
Chikunokura    Jd40  Nakai
Shimanishiki   Jd41  Fukuminato
Asadoji        Jd42  Daiseizan
Wakanosho      Jd43  Tamatensho
Wakatozakura   Jd44  Chiyotaiyo
Kotoegashira   Jd45  Yamana
Kyokushozan    Jd46  Shunkaku
Ito            Jd47  Kototaisei
Asanotosa      Jd48  Aoifuji
Kiyonohana     Jd49  Onofuji
Hokutoizumi    Jd50  Hamadayama
Takakurayama   Jd51  Ai
Bushi          Jd52  Taniguchi
Chikureisen    Jd53  Kurokage
Fubu           Jd54  Kirizakura
Asanoshima     Jd55  Asaazuma
Asasorai       Jd56  Matsumoto
Shokeima       Jd57  Zuiko
Toramusashi    Jd58  Koshinoryu
Setoyutaka     Jd59  Tsuyasato
Kyokutaiga     Jd60  Sawada
Okunidake      Jd61  Hokutoshio
Chiyooume      Jd62  Tokitora
Maenofuji      Jd63  Gaia
Kaihiryu       Jd64  Takasu
Tochihayate    Jd65  Watatani
Iitsuka        Jd66  Amamidake
Wakaikki       Jd67  Kokuryunami
Ojiyama        Jd68  Aron
Zendaisho      Jd69  Hokutonami
Daitenshin     Jd70  Tamanowaka
Shinyashiki    Jd71  Tsukioka
Hanafusa       Jd72  Fujinoteru
Chiyofuku      Jd73  Akinishiki
Satsumasho     Jd74  Asahimaru
Sawanofuji     Jd75  Daitensho
Ishiazuma      Jd76  Tenichi
Terunosato     Jd77  Yoshinofuji
Mihonoumi      Jd78  Hatachijo
Tagomaru       Jd79  Kinseiryu
Matsugi        Jd80  Toseiryu
Kazunofuji     Jd81  Chiyotsurugi
Matsugashima   Jd82  Adachi
Mabuchi        Jd83  Oatari
Motokiyama     Jd84  Tatsunoumi
Daishohama     Jd85  Shoryudo
Kainowaka      Jd86  Nishikimaru
Teraosho       Jd87  Nihonmatsu
Satsumao       Jd88  Shinzan
Byakuen        Jd89  Yamane
Okanojo        Jd90  Ouzakura
Tairikuyama    Jd91  Satonofuji
Takeazuma      Jd92  Asashorei
Wakayahara     Jd93  Naniwamusashi
Boshuyama      Jd94  Masakifuji
Hokutosato     Jd95  Chiyotensho
Azumayama      Jd96  Higonoryu
Maniwayama     Jd97  Tsurunoumi
Azumanami      Jd98  Sakura
Miyabi         Jd99  Takabaho
Okuniyama      Jd100 Wakaarata
Kototaiko      Jd101 Hishuyama
Mogaminishiki  Jd102 Kyonosato
Sadanojo       Jd103 Masutani
Koga           Jd104 Nishikio
Shishimaru     Jd105 Kenho
Sonoshun       Jd106 Kirimaru
Takatsukasa    Jd107 Moriurara
Tamanotora     Jd108 Kirinohana
Itakozakura    Jd109 Sawaisamu
Matsuzawa      Jd110 Kogomaru
Reonmaru       Jd111 Takataisho
Higohikari     Jd112 Urutora


Jonokuchi

 

Daisho         Jk1   Fujiizumi
Nishihara      Jk2   Shogun
Wakaseido      Jk3   Wakayamanaka
Agazumazakura  Jk4   Hitoshi
Takatairiku    Jk5   Oyamazakura
Noguchi        Jk6   Wakamiyabi
Kyokumizuno    Jk7   Okuyama
Kanazawa       Jk8   Tanaka
Daikinryu      Jk9   Yamada
Takaarashi     Jk10  Yamato
Wakasa         Jk11  Sano
Wakasei        Jk12  Satotanaka
Shoran         Jk13  Raikisho
Tanji          Jk14  Dairinzan
Tatsuosho      Jk15  Kotofuno
Sato           Jk16  Watanabe
Hayashiryu     Jk17  Rinko
Soga           Jk18  Jokoki
Michihaya      Jk19  Daishimatsu
Arise          Jk20  Nishikiori
Detachi        Jk21  Chiyonomichi
Kazekeno       Jk22  Najima


(New shikona in red.)

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Ishiura getting demoted half a rank more than Meisei with a record one win better. :-S No way that's just a joi bonus for Meisei. Ishiura might as well not have bothered coming back to the basho if that's how they were going to treat his time missed.

In a related note (because that's what Ishiura's demotion resulted in), I wonder how the heck Yutakayama got away as the only non-demoted 7-8 rikishi here, given the contortions they had to go through to give everybody else one.

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5 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Ishiura getting demoted 1.5 ranks more than Meisei with a record one win better. :-S No way that's just a joi bonus for Meisei. Ishiura might as well not have bothered coming back to the basho if that's how they were going to treat his time missed.

In a related note (because that's what Ishiura's demotion resulted in), I wonder how the heck Chiyotairyu got away as the only non-demoted 7-8 rikishi here, given the contortions they had to go through to give everybody else one.

Did the banzuke committee membership change? All the decisions seem to be the polar opposite of what they did under similar circumstances in March.

Chiyotairyu went 12w -> 13e, no?

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Eek, you quoted my post with the two dumb errors still included in it. (Laughing...)

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2 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Eek, you quoted my post with the two dumb errors still included in it. (Laughing...)

Sorry! (Bow...)

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Phew, quite a few interesting shikona changes on this banzuke. A quartet of Oguruma-beya survivors receive a new shikona in their new home at Nishonoseki-beya. Sakaekaze is now Wakenosato, honouring his hometown and district in Okayama prefecture. He changes the first kanji of the given name to match his actual given name, no change to the reading. Next, Fujikawa mixes his family and given names to become Fujiibuki, with the new shikona given name of Yoshito - the first kanji of that is the same as in Yoshikaze. The origins of the other two changes are not obvious - Tatsukaze is now Ryuo, and Abe is now Aron.

One-time former Juryo Fukushima lost his shikona of Gokushindo in late 2020, perhaps as an in-house penalty for his part in breaking COVID protocols with Abi, but he gets it back now.

In Musashigawa-beya, Yanagida gets his first shikona, Yokomaru and a new given name, Haruaki.

I mentioned recently that Dewanoumi-beya's Yamato would get his first shikona as his younger brother joins the heya this basho, but it's not the obvious reading that I suggested - instead it's Suio.

From Tokitsukaze-beya, Toyoshimizu's shikona was already a partial tribute to his home city, but now it's total - Tosashimizu. He also changes the given name to Manjiro; I'm only guessing, but to me it seems like that's taken from Nakahama Manjiro, who was born in what is now Tosashimizu. Meanwhile, Wakayutaka's new shikona of Setoyutaka is taken from the Seto Inland Sea, on the coast of which is situated his home city of Kurashiki.

Over in Takekuma-beya, the heya provides a kanji for Tatsuguchi's new shikona, Kumanoryu.

Michinoku-beya's Ryuki is now Yusui, honouring his hometown of the same name. He takes the old shikona as the given name (it's also his actual given name).

Over in Naruto-beya, recently-injured Hagiwara gets his first shikona, Hokuozan, honouring his home prefecture Hokkaido and with the 'Europe' kanji from the shisho (former Ozeki Kotooshu) in the middle. He also changes the given name to Kokichi.

Last but not least, Wakafujioka gets his first shikona of Wakaarata. That's a break with Nishiiwa-beya's usual policy of granting shikona upon promotion to Sandanme, but as he's from Higashi-Osaka I reckon it's another oyakata paying tribute to the late Aratakayama.


Ms38e Tatsukaze > Ryuo (龍王, りゅうおう)
Ms38w Sakaekaze Eisaku > Wakenosato Eisaku (和氣の里 栄作, わけのさと えいさく)
Ms55e Fukushima > Gokushindo (極芯道, ごくしんどう)
Sd23e Fujikawa Ibuki > Fujiibuki Yoshito (藤伊吹 嘉人, ふじいぶき よしと)
Sd53e Yanagida Komei > Yokomaru Haruaki (陽孔丸 玄明, ようこうまる はるあき)
Sd54e Yamato > Suio (翠桜, すいおう)
Sd75w Toyoshimizu Taiki > Tosashimizu Manjiro (土佐清水 万次郎, とさしみず まんじろう)
Sd84e Tatsuguchi > Kumanoryu (隈ノ竜, くまのりゅう)
Sd87e Ryuki Takamori > Yusui Ryuki (湧水 隆貴, ゆうすい りゅうき)
Jd8e Kaiho > Kyokushori (旭将里, きょくしょうり)
Jd37e Hagiwara Hikari > Hokuozan Kokichi (北欧山 晃吉, ほくおうざん こうきち)
Jd59e Wakayutaka > Setoyutaka (瀬戸豊, せとゆたか)
Jd68w Abe > Aron (阿龍, あーろん)
Jd100w Wakafujioka > Wakaarata (若新, わかあらた)


The shikona adopted by the Haru basho shindeshi class are already in the database but I'll summarise them here:

Jk5w Oyama > Oyamazakura (小山桜, おやまざくら)
Jk6w Endo > Wakamiyabi (若雅, わかみやび)
Jk7e Mizuno > Kyokumizuno (旭水野, きょくみずの)
Jk9e Tanimoto > Daikinryu (大錦龍, だいきんりゅう)
Jk10e Takano > Takaarashi (隆嵐, たかあらし)
Jk12e Sei > Wakasei (若清, わかせい)
Jk12w Tanaka > Satotanaka (里田中, さとたなか)
Jk13e Maki > Shoran (松蘭, しょうらん)
Jk13w Kamiya > Raikisho (雷輝勝, らいきしょう)
Jk14w Maruyama > Dairinzan (大凜山, だいりんざん)
Jk15e Nakasone > Tatsuosho (立王尚, たつおうしょう) - note for @Doitsuyama, the wrong reading of his family name made it into the database
Jk15w Funo > Kotofuno (琴布野, ことふの)
Jk17e Hayashi (Ryu) > Hayashiryu (林龍, はやしりゅう)
Jk17w Hayashi (Rei) > Rinko (林虎, りんこ)
Jk18w Jo > Jokoki (城皓貴, じょうこうき)
Jk19e Kato > Michihaya (道颯, みちはや)
Jk19w Shimura > Daishimatsu (大志松, だいしまつ)
Jk21w Komatsu > Chiyonomichi (千代の道, ちよのみち)
Jk22e Sumiki > Kazekeno (風賢央, かぜけんおう)


Jd1w Seigo's deep run at the Jonidan yusho last basho saw his Kyokai profile get updated with a given name, Yuri (友利, ゆうり), backdated to the start of his career.

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27 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said:

(...) and Abe is now Aron.

Only the second shikona I recall seeing whose provided reading uses ー for vowel elongation; the other was current sewanin Ranbo (Kyokai profile).

 

 

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Nakahama Manjiro is one of those historical characters that should be the topic of an NHK taiga drama, though no one would believe the real story.

Hagiwara shares a family name with Nishonoseki Oyakata; a change of shokona would make things less weird.  Interestingly, ex-Kisenosato is not listed on the English Wiki page featuring "notable people" with that last name, but the former lead singer of the Tempters is, along with the man recognized for inventing the fortune cookie.

And with the large number of new shikona this basho, my condolences to @Asojima for the extra work.

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10 hours ago, Reonito said:

Did the banzuke committee membership change? All the decisions seem to be the polar opposite of what they did under similar circumstances in March.

The new team after the kyokai elections started to work in April, Sadogatake new (joint) top, Kumegawa new among the deputies. The plain shimpan who take part in the conference also changed with the new members. Oyakata of iin class take part and all other members of the shimpan department are iin, so Nishonoseki and Naruto are new in there as well.

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51 minutes ago, Inside Sport Japan said:

Which is after the banzuke was made right?

Right - so it was the same old team

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10 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

Nakahama Manjiro is one of those historical characters that should be the topic of an NHK taiga drama, though no one would believe the real story.

Totally off-topic, but thank you.

I've read his wiki page - now I'm going to have to get his book!

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Nothing new on the makuuchi banzuke, so none of the usual pics with banzuke - likely the usual one of Mitakeumi tomorrow, and one of the only new juryo Tochimaru. Today it's only the online press conference of Wakatakakage.

20220425-OHT1I51124-N.jpgo 202204250000288-w200_0.jpgo  20220425at47S_t.jpgo b_15248327.jpgo 

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A short addition to the regular shikona abbreviation discussion. Today I saw the yokozuna called simply Teru (1 kanji) in the headline of an article - he is so absolutely established now that this is enough. I don't remember any other rikishi with more than 1 kanji in the shikona being referred to with just 1. 2 is the usual form of abbreviation, like with Kise.

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43 heyas, 638 rikishi in total. So, Kokonoe beya continue to lead the league with 28 players. Tamanoi,, Sadogatake and Hakkaku with 25, followed by Takasago with 24. Kise with 22, Takadagawa with 21, Sakaigawa with 20,  Shikihide, Oitekaze and Isegahama round up the top ten. Nishonoseki has grown since January : 4-13-16.

Least- Nishikido (3), Takekuma, Oshiogawa (two of the newest heya) and Kataonami with 4.

Sekitori? Oitekaze have 3 in Makuuchi and 4 in Juryo. Isegahama (4,2) ,  Kokonoe and Kise both have 2 and 3, 12 heya have no Sekitori at all. 

Hometown: Tokyo (50), Osaka (35), Aichi (33), Hyogo (31), Chiba (30), Saitama and Kanagawa (29), Fukuoka (26), Kumamoto and Kagoshima (23), Hokkaido (20). Least- Tottori and Shiga with 1 each.

Foreigners: 18 Mongolians - one Brazilian, one Chinese, one Russian, one Georgian, one Bulgarian, one from Kazakhstan, one from the Philippines, one Ukrainian and a partridge in a pear tree.

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One thing that surprised the hell out of me (though maybe this is well-known) when I looked up who the most likely demotions from makuuchi would be was that someone from M13 with five wins was more likely to drop to juryo than someone at M17 with 7 wins. And that's exactly what happened. I feel bad for Chiyonokuni, coming back with that shoulder injury to try to save his spot in the division only to lose it anyway, especially given that he was doing really well before he had to drop out. I thought they might show him a little more love given that he was clearly in position to not just stay in makuuchi, but also get a KK given how he started.

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On 24/04/2022 at 17:21, Asashosakari said:

Ishiura getting demoted half a rank more than Meisei with a record one win better. :-S No way that's just a joi bonus for Meisei. Ishiura might as well not have bothered coming back to the basho if that's how they were going to treat his time missed.

In a related note (because that's what Ishiura's demotion resulted in), I wonder how the heck Yutakayama got away as the only non-demoted 7-8 rikishi here, given the contortions they had to go through to give everybody else one.

I was surprised by how far he fell, but maybe that means it actually mattered that he found the second win. Do you think he would have been sent to juryo instead of one of the Super Chiyo Bros if he'd only had one?

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26 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

One thing that surprised the hell out of me (though maybe this is well-known) when I looked up who the most likely demotions from makuuchi would be was that someone from M13 with five wins was more likely to drop to juryo than someone at M17 with 7 wins. And that's exactly what happened. I feel bad for Chiyonokuni, coming back with that shoulder injury to try to save his spot in the division only to lose it anyway, especially given that he was doing really well before he had to drop out. I thought they might show him a little more love given that he was clearly in position to not just stay in makuuchi, but also get a KK given how he started.

The Banzuke committee must really love Kagayaki. It is not first time they are soft on him, so I wouldn't expect a M17 with 7 wins to be treated like that every time.

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5 minutes ago, shumitto said:

The Banzuke committee must really love Kagayaki. It is not first time they are soft on him, so I wouldn't expect a M17 with 7 wins to be treated like that every time.

Believe it or not, it's more common for an M17 with 7 wins to stay in makuuchi than drop to juryo.

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_rank=m17&form1_wins=7&form1_year=1958-2022

Weirdly, it happened several times in the '50s, then never again until 2004. They were never dropped to juryo in the '50s, and have stayed in makuuchi four times out of seven since 2004.

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56 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

One thing that surprised the hell out of me (though maybe this is well-known) when I looked up who the most likely demotions from makuuchi would be was that someone from M13 with five wins was more likely to drop to juryo than someone at M17 with 7 wins. And that's exactly what happened. I feel bad for Chiyonokuni, coming back with that shoulder injury to try to save his spot in the division only to lose it anyway, especially given that he was doing really well before he had to drop out. I thought they might show him a little more love given that he was clearly in position to not just stay in makuuchi, but also get a KK given how he started.

Remember that if you look up a M17 with 7 wins, that guarantees that the banzuke extends to at least M17. M13 with 5 wins might be in a basho where the lowest rank is M15 or M16. There are a lot of basho without M17

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

Believe it or not, it's more common for an M17 with 7 wins to stay in makuuchi than drop to juryo.

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_rank=m17&form1_wins=7&form1_year=1958-2022

Weirdly, it happened several times in the '50s, then never again until 2004. They were never dropped to juryo in the '50s, and have stayed in makuuchi four times out of seven since 2004.

As maglor referenced, this trend isn't actually strange when you look at how far down the division extended at that particular point in time. My working theory for why we saw midorifuji and kagayaki instead of chiyonokuni and chiyomaru actually involves the separation of ishiura and meisei on the banzuke - I think that for whatever reason, the committee decided to punish rikishi for not sticking around to fight all 15 days (even when chronically injured).

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