Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/ Makuuchi Terunofuji Y --- Mitakeumi O Shodai --- O Takakeisho Wakatakakage S Abi Hoshoryu K Daieisho Takayasu M1 Ichinojo Kiribayama M2 Kotonowaka Hokutofuji M3 Tamawashi Endo M4 Takanosho Onosho M5 Tobizaru Ura M6 Wakamotoharu Takarafuji M7 Kotoeko Shimanoumi M8 Terutsuyoshi Kotoshoho M9 Tochinoshin Okinoumi M10 Nishikigi Aoiyama M11 Chiyoshoma Myogiryu M12 Sadanoumi Chiyotairyu M13 Meisei Oho M14 Yutakayama Azumaryu M15 Ichiyamamoto Ishiura M16 Midorifuji Kotokuzan M17 Kagayaki Edited April 24, 2022 by Asashosakari 1 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Juryo Chiyomaru J1 Hidenoumi Chiyonokuni J2 Tsurugisho Mitoryu J3 Ryuden Akua J4 Tohakuryu Kitanowaka J5 Daishoho Daiamami J6 Nishikifuji Enho J7 Yago Tokushoryu J8 Asanowaka Kaisho J9 Kaisei Shimazuumi J10 Bushozan Hiradoumi J11 Daishomaru Shohozan J12 Atamifuji Chiyoarashi J13 Tochimaru Takakento J14 Churanoumi Edited April 24, 2022 by Asashosakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Makushita-joi Chiyonoumi Ms1 Nishikawa Hokuseiho Ms2 Tsushimanada Chiyosakae Ms3 Hakuyozan Roga Ms4 Kinbozan Kotoyusho Ms5 Kamito Kanno Ms6 Shiden Shishi Ms7 Asagyokusei Oshoma Ms8 Akiseyama Fukai Ms9 Shonannoumi Osanai Ms10 Tomokaze Fujiseiun Ms11 Tsukahara Hikarifuji Ms12 Kainoshima Ichiki Ms13 Tochikamiyama Tochinobori Ms14 Hatooka Hamayutaka Ms15 Wakatakamoto Edited April 24, 2022 by Asashosakari 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Makushita Jokoryu Ms16 KairyuOki Ms17 TsurubayashiNarutaki Ms18 TochiseiryuTokunomusashi Ms19 SuzukiChiyonoo Ms20 KitadaichiKirinofuji Ms21 SasakiyamaTosamidori Ms22 YutakashoOtsuji Ms23 NihonyanagiFujitoshi Ms24 KototsubasaDaiyusho Ms25 YukiArauma Ms26 TamashohoOshoryu Ms27 ChiyoogaNionoumi Ms28 TanabeOnojo Ms29 AsabenkeiKitaharima Ms30 DaikishoHokutoshu Ms31 TokihayateKotohaguro Ms32 MukainakanoShohoryu Ms33 DaiseiryuChiyoraizan Ms34 HokahoTochikodai Ms35 RyuseiFujiazuma Ms36 KotoozutsuOmoto Ms37 OyamatoumiRyuo Ms38 WakenosatoMaikeru Ms39 NishinoryuIshizaki Ms40 HayatefujiKaizen Ms41 AozoraMugendai Ms42 AsanoyamaOkinofuji Ms43 DewanoryuAsonoyama Ms44 AsakokiTennozan Ms45 HokutenkaiShosei Ms46 HaruminatoKiryuko Ms47 YoshiiHokutoryu Ms48 KaishinShuji Ms49 HodakaAmanoshima Ms50 AsashiyuKaigo Ms51 TokisomaNabatame Ms52 KaiseijoAmakaze Ms53 AwanokuniNobehara Ms54 WakazakuraGokushindo Ms55 HakuonadaDewataikai Ms56 NayaOhata Ms57 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RaikishoTanji Jk14 DairinzanTatsuosho Jk15 KotofunoSato Jk16 WatanabeHayashiryu Jk17 RinkoSoga Jk18 JokokiMichihaya Jk19 DaishimatsuArise Jk20 NishikioriDetachi Jk21 ChiyonomichiKazekeno Jk22 Najima (New shikona in red.) 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Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Ishiura getting demoted half a rank more than Meisei with a record one win better. No way that's just a joi bonus for Meisei. Ishiura might as well not have bothered coming back to the basho if that's how they were going to treat his time missed. In a related note (because that's what Ishiura's demotion resulted in), I wonder how the heck Yutakayama got away as the only non-demoted 7-8 rikishi here, given the contortions they had to go through to give everybody else one. Edited April 24, 2022 by Asashosakari 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 685 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: Ishiura getting demoted 1.5 ranks more than Meisei with a record one win better. No way that's just a joi bonus for Meisei. Ishiura might as well not have bothered coming back to the basho if that's how they were going to treat his time missed. In a related note (because that's what Ishiura's demotion resulted in), I wonder how the heck Chiyotairyu got away as the only non-demoted 7-8 rikishi here, given the contortions they had to go through to give everybody else one. Did the banzuke committee membership change? All the decisions seem to be the polar opposite of what they did under similar circumstances in March. Chiyotairyu went 12w -> 13e, no? Edited April 24, 2022 by Reonito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 Eek, you quoted my post with the two dumb errors still included in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 685 Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: Eek, you quoted my post with the two dumb errors still included in it. Sorry! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 10,610 Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Phew, quite a few interesting shikona changes on this banzuke. A quartet of Oguruma-beya survivors receive a new shikona in their new home at Nishonoseki-beya. Sakaekaze is now Wakenosato, honouring his hometown and district in Okayama prefecture. He changes the first kanji of the given name to match his actual given name, no change to the reading. Next, Fujikawa mixes his family and given names to become Fujiibuki, with the new shikona given name of Yoshito - the first kanji of that is the same as in Yoshikaze. The origins of the other two changes are not obvious - Tatsukaze is now Ryuo, and Abe is now Aron. One-time former Juryo Fukushima lost his shikona of Gokushindo in late 2020, perhaps as an in-house penalty for his part in breaking COVID protocols with Abi, but he gets it back now. In Musashigawa-beya, Yanagida gets his first shikona, Yokomaru and a new given name, Haruaki. I mentioned recently that Dewanoumi-beya's Yamato would get his first shikona as his younger brother joins the heya this basho, but it's not the obvious reading that I suggested - instead it's Suio. From Tokitsukaze-beya, Toyoshimizu's shikona was already a partial tribute to his home city, but now it's total - Tosashimizu. He also changes the given name to Manjiro; I'm only guessing, but to me it seems like that's taken from Nakahama Manjiro, who was born in what is now Tosashimizu. Meanwhile, Wakayutaka's new shikona of Setoyutaka is taken from the Seto Inland Sea, on the coast of which is situated his home city of Kurashiki. Over in Takekuma-beya, the heya provides a kanji for Tatsuguchi's new shikona, Kumanoryu. Michinoku-beya's Ryuki is now Yusui, honouring his hometown of the same name. He takes the old shikona as the given name (it's also his actual given name). Over in Naruto-beya, recently-injured Hagiwara gets his first shikona, Hokuozan, honouring his home prefecture Hokkaido and with the 'Europe' kanji from the shisho (former Ozeki Kotooshu) in the middle. He also changes the given name to Kokichi. Last but not least, Wakafujioka gets his first shikona of Wakaarata. That's a break with Nishiiwa-beya's usual policy of granting shikona upon promotion to Sandanme, but as he's from Higashi-Osaka I reckon it's another oyakata paying tribute to the late Aratakayama. Ms38e Tatsukaze > Ryuo (龍王, りゅうおう) Ms38w Sakaekaze Eisaku > Wakenosato Eisaku (和氣の里 栄作, わけのさと えいさく) Ms55e Fukushima > Gokushindo (極芯道, ごくしんどう) Sd23e Fujikawa Ibuki > Fujiibuki Yoshito (藤伊吹 嘉人, ふじいぶき よしと) Sd53e Yanagida Komei > Yokomaru Haruaki (陽孔丸 玄明, ようこうまる はるあき) Sd54e Yamato > Suio (翠桜, すいおう) Sd75w Toyoshimizu Taiki > Tosashimizu Manjiro (土佐清水 万次郎, とさしみず まんじろう) Sd84e Tatsuguchi > Kumanoryu (隈ノ竜, くまのりゅう) Sd87e Ryuki Takamori > Yusui Ryuki (湧水 隆貴, ゆうすい りゅうき) Jd8e Kaiho > Kyokushori (旭将里, きょくしょうり) Jd37e Hagiwara Hikari > Hokuozan Kokichi (北欧山 晃吉, ほくおうざん こうきち) Jd59e Wakayutaka > Setoyutaka (瀬戸豊, せとゆたか) Jd68w Abe > Aron (阿龍, あーろん) Jd100w Wakafujioka > Wakaarata (若新, わかあらた) The shikona adopted by the Haru basho shindeshi class are already in the database but I'll summarise them here: Jk5w Oyama > Oyamazakura (小山桜, おやまざくら) Jk6w Endo > Wakamiyabi (若雅, わかみやび) Jk7e Mizuno > Kyokumizuno (旭水野, きょくみずの) Jk9e Tanimoto > Daikinryu (大錦龍, だいきんりゅう) Jk10e Takano > Takaarashi (隆嵐, たかあらし) Jk12e Sei > Wakasei (若清, わかせい) Jk12w Tanaka > Satotanaka (里田中, さとたなか) Jk13e Maki > Shoran (松蘭, しょうらん) Jk13w Kamiya > Raikisho (雷輝勝, らいきしょう) Jk14w Maruyama > Dairinzan (大凜山, だいりんざん) Jk15e Nakasone > Tatsuosho (立王尚, たつおうしょう) - note for @Doitsuyama, the wrong reading of his family name made it into the database Jk15w Funo > Kotofuno (琴布野, ことふの) Jk17e Hayashi (Ryu) > Hayashiryu (林龍, はやしりゅう) Jk17w Hayashi (Rei) > Rinko (林虎, りんこ) Jk18w Jo > Jokoki (城皓貴, じょうこうき) Jk19e Kato > Michihaya (道颯, みちはや) Jk19w Shimura > Daishimatsu (大志松, だいしまつ) Jk21w Komatsu > Chiyonomichi (千代の道, ちよのみち) Jk22e Sumiki > Kazekeno (風賢央, かぜけんおう) Jd1w Seigo's deep run at the Jonidan yusho last basho saw his Kyokai profile get updated with a given name, Yuri (友利, ゆうり), backdated to the start of his career. Edited April 24, 2022 by Yubinhaad 1 12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 16,847 Posted April 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said: (...) and Abe is now Aron. Only the second shikona I recall seeing whose provided reading uses ー for vowel elongation; the other was current sewanin Ranbo (Kyokai profile). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,968 Posted April 24, 2022 Nakahama Manjiro is one of those historical characters that should be the topic of an NHK taiga drama, though no one would believe the real story. Hagiwara shares a family name with Nishonoseki Oyakata; a change of shokona would make things less weird. Interestingly, ex-Kisenosato is not listed on the English Wiki page featuring "notable people" with that last name, but the former lead singer of the Tempters is, along with the man recognized for inventing the fortune cookie. And with the large number of new shikona this basho, my condolences to @Asojima for the extra work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 34,922 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Reonito said: Did the banzuke committee membership change? All the decisions seem to be the polar opposite of what they did under similar circumstances in March. The new team after the kyokai elections started to work in April, Sadogatake new (joint) top, Kumegawa new among the deputies. The plain shimpan who take part in the conference also changed with the new members. Oyakata of iin class take part and all other members of the shimpan department are iin, so Nishonoseki and Naruto are new in there as well. Edited April 25, 2022 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inside Sport Japan 680 Posted April 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Akinomaki said: The new team after the kyokai elections started to work in April Which is after the banzuke was made right? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 34,922 Posted April 25, 2022 51 minutes ago, Inside Sport Japan said: Which is after the banzuke was made right? Right - so it was the same old team 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,232 Posted April 25, 2022 10 hours ago, Yamanashi said: Nakahama Manjiro is one of those historical characters that should be the topic of an NHK taiga drama, though no one would believe the real story. Totally off-topic, but thank you. I've read his wiki page - now I'm going to have to get his book! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 34,922 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Nothing new on the makuuchi banzuke, so none of the usual pics with banzuke - likely the usual one of Mitakeumi tomorrow, and one of the only new juryo Tochimaru. Today it's only the online press conference of Wakatakakage. o o o o Edited April 25, 2022 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 34,922 Posted April 25, 2022 A short addition to the regular shikona abbreviation discussion. Today I saw the yokozuna called simply Teru (1 kanji) in the headline of an article - he is so absolutely established now that this is enough. I don't remember any other rikishi with more than 1 kanji in the shikona being referred to with just 1. 2 is the usual form of abbreviation, like with Kise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 40,742 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) 43 heyas, 638 rikishi in total. So, Kokonoe beya continue to lead the league with 28 players. Tamanoi,, Sadogatake and Hakkaku with 25, followed by Takasago with 24. Kise with 22, Takadagawa with 21, Sakaigawa with 20, Shikihide, Oitekaze and Isegahama round up the top ten. Nishonoseki has grown since January : 4-13-16. Least- Nishikido (3), Takekuma, Oshiogawa (two of the newest heya) and Kataonami with 4. Sekitori? Oitekaze have 3 in Makuuchi and 4 in Juryo. Isegahama (4,2) , Kokonoe and Kise both have 2 and 3, 12 heya have no Sekitori at all. Hometown: Tokyo (50), Osaka (35), Aichi (33), Hyogo (31), Chiba (30), Saitama and Kanagawa (29), Fukuoka (26), Kumamoto and Kagoshima (23), Hokkaido (20). Least- Tottori and Shiga with 1 each. Foreigners: 18 Mongolians - one Brazilian, one Chinese, one Russian, one Georgian, one Bulgarian, one from Kazakhstan, one from the Philippines, one Ukrainian and a partridge in a pear tree. Edited April 25, 2022 by Kintamayama 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 247 Posted April 26, 2022 (edited) One thing that surprised the hell out of me (though maybe this is well-known) when I looked up who the most likely demotions from makuuchi would be was that someone from M13 with five wins was more likely to drop to juryo than someone at M17 with 7 wins. And that's exactly what happened. I feel bad for Chiyonokuni, coming back with that shoulder injury to try to save his spot in the division only to lose it anyway, especially given that he was doing really well before he had to drop out. I thought they might show him a little more love given that he was clearly in position to not just stay in makuuchi, but also get a KK given how he started. Edited April 26, 2022 by Sumo Spiffy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 247 Posted April 26, 2022 On 24/04/2022 at 17:21, Asashosakari said: Ishiura getting demoted half a rank more than Meisei with a record one win better. No way that's just a joi bonus for Meisei. Ishiura might as well not have bothered coming back to the basho if that's how they were going to treat his time missed. In a related note (because that's what Ishiura's demotion resulted in), I wonder how the heck Yutakayama got away as the only non-demoted 7-8 rikishi here, given the contortions they had to go through to give everybody else one. I was surprised by how far he fell, but maybe that means it actually mattered that he found the second win. Do you think he would have been sent to juryo instead of one of the Super Chiyo Bros if he'd only had one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inside Sport Japan 680 Posted April 26, 2022 2022 Natsu Basho Banzuke Sheet 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 416 Posted April 26, 2022 26 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said: One thing that surprised the hell out of me (though maybe this is well-known) when I looked up who the most likely demotions from makuuchi would be was that someone from M13 with five wins was more likely to drop to juryo than someone at M17 with 7 wins. And that's exactly what happened. I feel bad for Chiyonokuni, coming back with that shoulder injury to try to save his spot in the division only to lose it anyway, especially given that he was doing really well before he had to drop out. I thought they might show him a little more love given that he was clearly in position to not just stay in makuuchi, but also get a KK given how he started. The Banzuke committee must really love Kagayaki. It is not first time they are soft on him, so I wouldn't expect a M17 with 7 wins to be treated like that every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sumo Spiffy 247 Posted April 26, 2022 5 minutes ago, shumitto said: The Banzuke committee must really love Kagayaki. It is not first time they are soft on him, so I wouldn't expect a M17 with 7 wins to be treated like that every time. Believe it or not, it's more common for an M17 with 7 wins to stay in makuuchi than drop to juryo. https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_rank=m17&form1_wins=7&form1_year=1958-2022 Weirdly, it happened several times in the '50s, then never again until 2004. They were never dropped to juryo in the '50s, and have stayed in makuuchi four times out of seven since 2004. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maglor 81 Posted April 26, 2022 56 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said: One thing that surprised the hell out of me (though maybe this is well-known) when I looked up who the most likely demotions from makuuchi would be was that someone from M13 with five wins was more likely to drop to juryo than someone at M17 with 7 wins. And that's exactly what happened. I feel bad for Chiyonokuni, coming back with that shoulder injury to try to save his spot in the division only to lose it anyway, especially given that he was doing really well before he had to drop out. I thought they might show him a little more love given that he was clearly in position to not just stay in makuuchi, but also get a KK given how he started. Remember that if you look up a M17 with 7 wins, that guarantees that the banzuke extends to at least M17. M13 with 5 wins might be in a basho where the lowest rank is M15 or M16. There are a lot of basho without M17 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yarimotsu 210 Posted April 26, 2022 48 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said: Believe it or not, it's more common for an M17 with 7 wins to stay in makuuchi than drop to juryo. https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_rank=m17&form1_wins=7&form1_year=1958-2022 Weirdly, it happened several times in the '50s, then never again until 2004. They were never dropped to juryo in the '50s, and have stayed in makuuchi four times out of seven since 2004. As maglor referenced, this trend isn't actually strange when you look at how far down the division extended at that particular point in time. My working theory for why we saw midorifuji and kagayaki instead of chiyonokuni and chiyomaru actually involves the separation of ishiura and meisei on the banzuke - I think that for whatever reason, the committee decided to punish rikishi for not sticking around to fight all 15 days (even when chronically injured). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites