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2 minutes ago, Reonito said:

If there is no plan to solve the db instability issues, might it be feasible to move the game entry method?

I'd be willing to lend a (technical) hand on getting matters like this resolved for June.

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34 minutes ago, Hoshotakamoto said:

I made zero progress on writing new code to programmatically get better at this than my own intuition. My hastily thrown together last minute (human) picks:

The DB is kiboshing any attempt at a data pull, if I even could reverse engineer the optimal data storage structure for it in the first place (relative script kiddie here). The amount of data is no joke to be running a bad data structure, although given the instability issues it might just be a question of getting data offline to begin with and sorting it later.

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Entry is closed now, isn‘t it?

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My humble attempt:
 

Yokozuna E: Terunofuji Y1e (3-3-9)
      Ozeki E: Mitakeumi O2w (11-4)
      Ozeki W: Shodai O1e (9-6)
     Ozeki W2: Takakeisho O1w (8-7)
   Sekiwake E: Wakatakakage S1e (12-3)
   Sekiwake W: Abi S1w (8-7)
   Komusubi E: Hoshoryu K1w (8-7)
   Komusubi W: Daieisho M1e (8-7)
 Maegashira E: Takayasu M7e (12-3)
 Maegashira W: Ichinojo M2e (9-6)
Maegashira E2: Kiribayama M4e (10-5)
Maegashira W2: Kotonowaka M6w (11-4)
Maegashira E3: Tamawashi M2w (7-8)
Maegashira W3: Endo M4w (8-7)
Maegashira E4: Hokutofuji M6e (9-6)
Maegashira W4: Tobizaru M9e (9-6)
Maegashira E5: Onosho M3e (6-9)
Maegashira W5: Wakamotoharu M9w (9-6)
Maegashira E6: Takanosho K1e (4-11)
Maegashira W6: Shimanoumi M10e (8-7)
Maegashira E7: Takarafuji M5e (6-9)
Maegashira W7: Ura M1w (4-11)
Maegashira E8: Kotoeko M12e (9-6)
Maegashira W8: Terutsuyoshi M11w (8-7)
Maegashira E9: Kotoshoho M14e (9-6)
Maegashira W9: Tochinoshin M15w (9-6)
Maegashira E10: Nishikigi M16e (9-6)
Maegashira W10: Midorifuji J6e (12-3)
Maegashira E11: Aoiyama M10w (7-8)
Maegashira W11: Myogiryu M11e (7-8)
Maegashira E12: Okinoumi M7w (5-10)
Maegashira W12: Chiyoshoma M8e (5-10)
Maegashira E13: Sadanoumi M8w (5-10)
Maegashira W13: Chiyotairyu M12w (7-8)
Maegashira E14: Oho J1e (10-5)
Maegashira W14: Azumaryu J2e (10-5)
Maegashira E15: Yutakayama M14w (7-8)
Maegashira W15: Ishiura M5w (2-7-6)
Maegashira E16: Meisei M3w (1-14)
Maegashira W16: Ichiyamamoto M17w (8-7)
Maegashira E17: Kotokuzan M16w (7-8)
Maegashira W17: Kagayaki M17e (7-8)

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1 hour ago, Hoshotakamoto said:

I'd be willing to lend a (technical) hand on getting matters like this resolved for June.

I may take you up on that..

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32 minutes ago, Wamahada said:

My humble attempt:
 

Yokozuna E: Terunofuji Y1e (3-3-9)
      Ozeki E: Mitakeumi O2w (11-4)
      Ozeki W: Shodai O1e (9-6)
     Ozeki W2: Takakeisho O1w (8-7)
   Sekiwake E: Wakatakakage S1e (12-3)
   Sekiwake W: Abi S1w (8-7)
   Komusubi E: Hoshoryu K1w (8-7)
   Komusubi W: Daieisho M1e (8-7)
 Maegashira E: Takayasu M7e (12-3)
 Maegashira W: Ichinojo M2e (9-6)
Maegashira E2: Kiribayama M4e (10-5)
Maegashira W2: Kotonowaka M6w (11-4)
Maegashira E3: Tamawashi M2w (7-8)
Maegashira W3: Endo M4w (8-7)
Maegashira E4: Hokutofuji M6e (9-6)
Maegashira W4: Tobizaru M9e (9-6)
Maegashira E5: Onosho M3e (6-9)
Maegashira W5: Wakamotoharu M9w (9-6)
Maegashira E6: Takanosho K1e (4-11)
Maegashira W6: Shimanoumi M10e (8-7)
Maegashira E7: Takarafuji M5e (6-9)
Maegashira W7: Ura M1w (4-11)
Maegashira E8: Kotoeko M12e (9-6)
Maegashira W8: Terutsuyoshi M11w (8-7)
Maegashira E9: Kotoshoho M14e (9-6)
Maegashira W9: Tochinoshin M15w (9-6)
Maegashira E10: Nishikigi M16e (9-6)
Maegashira W10: Midorifuji J6e (12-3)
Maegashira E11: Aoiyama M10w (7-8)
Maegashira W11: Myogiryu M11e (7-8)
Maegashira E12: Okinoumi M7w (5-10)
Maegashira W12: Chiyoshoma M8e (5-10)
Maegashira E13: Sadanoumi M8w (5-10)
Maegashira W13: Chiyotairyu M12w (7-8)
Maegashira E14: Oho J1e (10-5)
Maegashira W14: Azumaryu J2e (10-5)
Maegashira E15: Yutakayama M14w (7-8)
Maegashira W15: Ishiura M5w (2-7-6)
Maegashira E16: Meisei M3w (1-14)
Maegashira W16: Ichiyamamoto M17w (8-7)
Maegashira E17: Kotokuzan M16w (7-8)
Maegashira W17: Kagayaki M17e (7-8)

Sorry, entry way too late..

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I am already on the entry list, I made my pick successfully a few days ago. Just publish my pick as also in previous GTB.

Wamahada

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22 minutes ago, Wamahada said:

I am already on the entry list, I made my pick successfully a few days ago. Just publish my pick as also in previous GTB.

Wamahada

Sure

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I notice that the site is up and working better than I've seen it work in a week now, shame that's no good! I know a few people who would normally have entered who didn't, but hopefully there'll be a backup in place for next time, because until something is done about the server, it would be foolish to rely on the site at this point.

Honestly, at this point a Google Form would serve us better: easy to make, free and won't go down.

I managed to submit the form (I'm the last entry on the entry list), here's my entry:

Spoiler

East   West
Terunofuji Y  
Mitakeumi O Shodai
  O Takakeisho
Wakatakakage S Abi
Hoshoryu K Daieisho
Ichinojo M1 Kiribayama
Takayasu M2 Kotonowaka
Endo M3 Tamawashi
Hokutofuji M4 Takanosho
Onosho M5 Tobizaru
Wakamotoharu M6 Ura
Takarafuji M7 Kotoeko
Shimanoumi M8 Terutsuyoshi
Kotoshoho M9 Okinoumi
Tochinoshin M10 Nishikigi
Aoiyama M11 Myogiryu
Chiyoshoma M12 Sadanoumi
Chiyotairyu M13 Meisei
Ishiura M14 Yutakayama
Ichiyamamoto M15 Oho
Azumaryu M16 Midorifuji
Kotokuzan M17 Chiyomaru

 

Hopefully that formats correctly.

 

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9 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

The DB is kiboshing any attempt at a data pull, if I even could reverse engineer the optimal data storage structure for it in the first place (relative script kiddie here). The amount of data is no joke to be running a bad data structure, although given the instability issues it might just be a question of getting data offline to begin with and sorting it later.

So like 4 months ago I did the banzuke query to show rankings for 7 consecutive basho and this was a pretty efficient way to grab all the pertinent information for the banzuke history from 1994 to the present (I think I chose 1994 for reasons having to do with the contest). There was a little bit of edge case data to pick up - for example newer guys like Ishizaki were missed, but I think everything in the top division was fully covered.

I was able to make incremental progress on the algorithm but some of the ideas I've had that would probably make it fairly bulletproof have not made it down the keyboard yet. I think my code right now would fairly consistently finish approximately 2nd to last in GTB.

EDIT to mention I think there were substantial changes to the text I was quoting and the changes propagate into my quote (???) Yikes

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5 hours ago, Wamahada said:

My humble attempt:
 

Yokozuna E: Terunofuji Y1e (3-3-9)
      Ozeki E: Mitakeumi O2w (11-4)
      Ozeki W: Shodai O1e (9-6)
     Ozeki W2: Takakeisho O1w (8-7)
   Sekiwake E: Wakatakakage S1e (12-3)
   Sekiwake W: Abi S1w (8-7)
   Komusubi E: Hoshoryu K1w (8-7)
   Komusubi W: Daieisho M1e (8-7)
 Maegashira E: Takayasu M7e (12-3)
 Maegashira W: Ichinojo M2e (9-6)
Maegashira E2: Kiribayama M4e (10-5)
Maegashira W2: Kotonowaka M6w (11-4)
Maegashira E3: Tamawashi M2w (7-8)
Maegashira W3: Endo M4w (8-7)
Maegashira E4: Hokutofuji M6e (9-6)
Maegashira W4: Tobizaru M9e (9-6)
Maegashira E5: Onosho M3e (6-9)
Maegashira W5: Wakamotoharu M9w (9-6)
Maegashira E6: Takanosho K1e (4-11)
Maegashira W6: Shimanoumi M10e (8-7)
Maegashira E7: Takarafuji M5e (6-9)
Maegashira W7: Ura M1w (4-11)
Maegashira E8: Kotoeko M12e (9-6)
Maegashira W8: Terutsuyoshi M11w (8-7)
Maegashira E9: Kotoshoho M14e (9-6)
Maegashira W9: Tochinoshin M15w (9-6)
Maegashira E10: Nishikigi M16e (9-6)
Maegashira W10: Midorifuji J6e (12-3)
Maegashira E11: Aoiyama M10w (7-8)
Maegashira W11: Myogiryu M11e (7-8)
Maegashira E12: Okinoumi M7w (5-10)
Maegashira W12: Chiyoshoma M8e (5-10)
Maegashira E13: Sadanoumi M8w (5-10)
Maegashira W13: Chiyotairyu M12w (7-8)
Maegashira E14: Oho J1e (10-5)
Maegashira W14: Azumaryu J2e (10-5)
Maegashira E15: Yutakayama M14w (7-8)
Maegashira W15: Ishiura M5w (2-7-6)
Maegashira E16: Meisei M3w (1-14)
Maegashira W16: Ichiyamamoto M17w (8-7)
Maegashira E17: Kotokuzan M16w (7-8)
Maegashira W17: Kagayaki M17e (7-8)

For future reference I learned in this forum that Oho and Azumaryu will not be elevated past Ichiyamamoto's top division KK as one of the set-in-stone rules of banzuke logic.

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49 minutes ago, Hoshotakamoto said:

So like 4 months ago I did the banzuke query to show rankings for 7 consecutive basho and this was a pretty efficient way to grab all the pertinent information for the banzuke history from 1994 to the present (I think I chose 1994 for reasons having to do with the contest). There was a little bit of edge case data to pick up - for example newer guys like Ishizaki were missed, but I think everything in the top division was fully covered.

I was able to make incremental progress on the algorithm but some of the ideas I've had that would probably make it fairly bulletproof have not made it down the keyboard yet. I think my code right now would fairly consistently finish approximately 2nd to last in GTB.

Just having that banzuke history in a searchable format somewhere reliable would be awesome.

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1 hour ago, Reonito said:

Just having that banzuke history in a searchable format somewhere reliable would be awesome.

Interesting .... I'm incentivized to expose this data through my employer if that's not too offputting. I can discuss over DM.

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Terunofuji(3-3 Ye) Y  
Mitakeumi(11-4 Ow) O Shodai(9-6 Oe)
  O Takakeisho(8-7 Ow)
Wakatakakage(12-3 Se) S Abi(8-7 Sw)
Hoshoryu(8-7 Kw) K Daieisho(8-7 M1e)
Ichinojo(9-6 M2e) M1 Kiribayama(10-5 M4e)
Takayasu(12-3 M7e) M2 Kotonowaka(11-4 M6w)
Hokutofuji(9-6 M6e) M3 Endo(8-7 M4w)
Tamawashi(7-8 M2w) M4 Takanosho(4-11 Ke)
Onosho(6-9 M3e) M5 Tobizaru(9-6 M9e)
Wakamotoharu(9-6 M9w) M6 Ura(4-11 M1w)
Takarafuji(6-9 M5e) M7 Kotoeko(9-6 M12e)
Shimanoumi(8-7 M10e) M8 Terutsuyoshi(8-7 M11w)
Kotoshoho(9-6 M14e) M9 Tochinoshin(9-6 M15w)
Okinoumi(5-10 M7w) M10 Aoiyama(7-8 M10w)
Myogiryu(7-8 M11e) M11 Nishikigi(9-6 M16e)
Chiyoshoma(5-10 M8e) M12 Sadanoumi(5-10 M8w)
Chiyotairyu(7-8 M12w) M13 Meisei(1-14 M3w)
Ishiura(2-7 M5w) M14 Oho(10-5 J1e)
Azumaryu(10-5 J2e) M15 Yutakayama(7-8 M14w)
Ichiyamamoto(8-7 M17w) M16 Midorifuji(12-3 J6e)
Kotokuzan(7-8 M16w) M17 Chiyomaru(5-10 M13e)

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Posted (edited)

I 'm sending entry to motidi@yahoo.com, but I can't see my shikona in GTB entries for Natsu 2022...Why?

Edited by Bill

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Posted (edited)
On 18/04/2022 at 20:18, Gurowake said:
Terunofuji(3-3 Ye) Y  
Mitakeumi(11-4 Ow) O Shodai(9-6 Oe)
  O Takakeisho(8-7 Ow)
Wakatakakage(12-3 Se) S Abi(8-7 Sw)
Hoshoryu(8-7 Kw) K Daieisho(8-7 M1e)
Ichinojo(9-6 M2e) M1 Kiribayama(10-5 M4e)
Takayasu(12-3 M7e) M2 Kotonowaka(11-4 M6w)
Hokutofuji(9-6 M6e) M3 Endo(8-7 M4w)
Tamawashi(7-8 M2w) M4 Takanosho(4-11 Ke)
Onosho(6-9 M3e) M5 Tobizaru(9-6 M9e)
Wakamotoharu(9-6 M9w) M6 Ura(4-11 M1w)
Takarafuji(6-9 M5e) M7 Kotoeko(9-6 M12e)
Shimanoumi(8-7 M10e) M8 Terutsuyoshi(8-7 M11w)
Kotoshoho(9-6 M14e) M9 Tochinoshin(9-6 M15w)
Okinoumi(5-10 M7w) M10 Aoiyama(7-8 M10w)
Myogiryu(7-8 M11e) M11 Nishikigi(9-6 M16e)
Chiyoshoma(5-10 M8e) M12 Sadanoumi(5-10 M8w)
Chiyotairyu(7-8 M12w) M13 Meisei(1-14 M3w)
Ishiura(2-7 M5w) M14 Oho(10-5 J1e)
Azumaryu(10-5 J2e) M15 Yutakayama(7-8 M14w)
Ichiyamamoto(8-7 M17w) M16 Midorifuji(12-3 J6e)
Kotokuzan(7-8 M16w) M17 Chiyomaru(5-10 M13e)

wow you have a ton of agreement with my picks (which could be good, could be bad) but the places where we don't agree I feel really strongly about mine?

EDIT to add: Nope, you crushed me with Oho and Azumaryu jumping ahead of Ichi's KK. I would have gone that way if I hadn't read these boards! *shakes fist*

Edited by Hoshotakamoto
results came in

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2 hours ago, Bill said:

I 'm sending entry to motidi@yahoo.com, but I can't see my shikona in GTB entries for Natsu 2022...Why?

As far as I'm aware, the entry list only displays the people who used the actual entry form through the website. I have no idea if it will eventually have the people who had to email theirs, but those have to be entered into the system manually, which seems like a difficult process from how much Moti seems to be dreading having to do that...

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6 hours ago, Bill said:

I 'm sending entry to motidi@yahoo.com, but I can't see my shikona in GTB entries for Natsu 2022...Why?

Because all 20-odd entries by mail are not on the list. You will be seen..

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3 hours ago, fwuzzle23 said:

As far as I'm aware, the entry list only displays the people who used the actual entry form through the website. I have no idea if it will eventually have the people who had to email theirs, but those have to be entered into the system manually, which seems like a difficult process from how much Moti seems to be dreading having to do that...

Not me, Andoreasu does it. I feel very uncomfortable asking him to do it.

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Posted (edited)

 

These are all entries received- if you sent an entry and are not on the list please PM me with some sort of proof that you did send me an email ..

Shikona
Kotononami
Doreikishi
Ketsukai
Chartorenji
AureliaLux
Kirinoumi
arkediaz
SubmergedBass
Oneychan
Kaiowaka
UsedChicken
Kinoko
Bosonami
Tzutziyama
SumoCBX
cmlobue
Shoryuyama
Susanoo
Athenayama
Jejima
jjdynasty
Kuronopon
Kakejolas
Ullishimaru
Wakatakatakatakatakatakatakatakatakatakatakatakata
Yarimotsu
Chubanoumi
Gurowake
Konishiki
Vleuel
Flohru
holtyasu
Wassupca
Suijin
SHiFT
Itchynotoe
Ganzohnesushi
Akawainnoumi
Randy Savage
Yoshio
glacier
Barutonoumi
Cheesofuji
Yubinhaad
Hourmanumi
robnplunder
Pandaazuma
Mysko
Ichinanjo
Inazuma
maorencze
Kitakachiyama
Leonishiki
Wakawakawaka
Oortael
Tupayumi
Konosato
Kyotomo
Sakura
Pitinosato
Saruwatari II
Simon
Kowaiazumaya
kujo
Sukubidubidu
Chiyonosawa
CaptSmarta$$
Tim Sumo
Benimaru
Chisaiwashi
Kaminari no taiyō
Goshobiyama
BariiHachiBenson
Takanorappa
Suwihuto
RaeucherLax
Mitaketakakage
Wamahada
Moshogaeru
gusoyama
Ivar
Toranoshin
intarga
Arthur Moschen
Jakusotsu
choccymilkchanko
Matsunofuji
Kasamatsuri
Asset
Chiyotasuke
Seiyashi
Seki Haruaki
Dare
Mr.Rofl
GONZABUROW
Nantonoyama
Shatsume
Bananawaka
Kishikaisei
Kaito
Golynohana
Heriokuno
Asashosakari
Furuimori
Kaikaryu
KatsumaBen
Netakata
TochiYESshin
Kajiyanosho
taxinohana
Netsuzakura
chishafuwaku
Andoreasu
Hidenotora

Additonally, these entries were received by mail:

Bill

Torafujii

Oskanohana

Reonito

Balon

Screeching Owl

Taiseiyama

Gooner

Hoshotakamoto

Muhomatsu

Andonishiki

Purring

Tamanaogijima

Fujisan

Kyoju

Oshirokita

Edited by Kintamayama

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Doitsuyama is working on it-has been OK for the last hour..

 

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5 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Not me, Andoreasu does it. I feel very uncomfortable asking him to do it.

Ah, my mistake then. Still, for the sake of everyone running GTB I hope we don't have to go the manual route again in the future. Pain for both the people entering and the people running the show. Either by the DB server having more reliability now that Doitsuyama's implemented a fix to mitigate the bot issue, or having alternate means of submitting entries like some have mentioned.

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4 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Doitsuyama is working on it-has been OK for the last hour..

 

He can reach out to me at the Hoshotakamoto email I used to submit my picks. I would be interested in enabling the user to submit picks early and see them / modify them up to the last minute before the submission deadline. As discussed elsewhere in this thread I might provide the community a backup option to the not-always-reliable sumodb querying functionality.

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If we are thinking of features - perhaps once you pick a wrestler for a certain spot on the banzuke his name no longer appears in the drop down list. That is one that would help me out.  I always make a mistake (ugh, I forgot XXX) and then I have to rework the thing.

 

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6 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Doitsuyama is working on it-has been OK for the last hour..

 

Has been online for many hours now.

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